And that’s what matters.
IDNGAS about the TV Networks.
MSU just needs to be True to Itself.
If you get rid of what matters, then Nothing About Mississippi State matters.
That’s Branding 101
Brand new FB Practice Facility
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And that’s what matters.
IDNGAS about the TV Networks.
MSU just needs to be True to Itself.
If you get rid of what matters, then Nothing About Mississippi State matters.
That’s Branding 101
There are certain large donor fans/alumni who direct their money mainly (or only) to baseball. That's their favorite sport, and what they love about MSU. Let them do it - you can't make them give money to football, so let them give to baseball.
The same thing can be said for basketball. Certain big money guys basically only give to basketball. So let them do it.
My point is, all the talk and reasoning you're giving about there being "finite resources" is based on a faulty premise. It's not a zero sum game. If you want more money into the football program, it will have to come from new sources, or you'll have to convince the same people who are giving now to give more. You can't make baseball or basketball donors switch to football just because you like it better or because it's better for realignment. You just can't.
So effing what?
Don’t sweat the small stuff.
As I said before, MSU just needs to be true to itself— which includes being a good partner to its fellow SEC members.
The SEC and B1G want to have a partnership and play each other in football?
That’s great! We sign up for it and play whoever we play— maybe Purdue.
You don’t have to run around like a Chicken with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
Be Cool
(by gawd, the freaking irony of the aspie with severe OCD advising anxious fans to relax…)
Best explanation of how to be an MSU fan (or employee) I’ve ever heard. And where I’m at these days. Being a state school in the SEC is all we’ve really got
I do want to be good at basebawww tho
Here's the thing, our entire baseball budget for everything wouldn't be a drop in the bucket to the football budget if we just shut baseball down completely and somehow just walked away from any remaining sunk costs. It just doesn't matter.
It’s so inconsequential that each and every postseason game is show in its entirety on the ESPN family of networks. And Omaha is front and center from beginning to end.
Hockey???? You can’t even stream most of that shít. Hell, even a feed of the Stanley Cup is hard to find.
I don’t think that baseball needs to be front and center here, but for some of yall to act like it’s inconsequential are just 17ing stupid.
Hockey is easy to find, and it's all televised or streamed. And that's just college hockey playoffs. The Stanley Cup Finals are on network TV. You flat out don't know what you are talking about. I know it upsets some MSU people when they are confronted with the reality of college baseball, but it is the reality.
The TV networks are most of the athletic budget. If you get rid of them our athletic department folds.
Women's basketball and softball have a bigger national profile than college baseball. That's just fact. Most MSU people don't really care about baseball. That is also fact. The evidence is in concrete and steel.
I don't disagree with this. The real problem is our terrible excuse for a revenue stream. We do absolutely nothing to fix it. My 50 year old prostate has a better stream. We're the most short-sighted, conservative bunch in the world in regards to creating a better revenue stream.
Nope, we will be left out if we concentrate on a sport that nationally nobody really cares about. If you don't offer something in football or maybe possibly Men's basketball, you have nothing to offer. College baseball is totally irrelevant except as a luxury sport.
No doubt they do have a bigger national profile than baseball. But at Mississippi State, baseball is pretty damn big. As it is at a lot of SEC schools. And Mississippi State is what matters in this discussion.
The money we spent on the baseball stadium could have built a nice indoor football facility. It would have made a real difference at the time. Instead we wasted that money on a money losing sport:
You calling it a fact doesn't make it a fact.
You do this a lot and one would think you've learned your lesson by now.
So what? Are you saying we should take the baseball money and invest more in softball and women's basketball? Who cares if they're more relevant nationally? They're not going to pull in more revenue at Mississippi State than baseball will.
If you just look and NCAA championship game ratings over the last five years, Baseball viewership is double softball viewership, and that's despite ESPN cramming the softball tourney down everyone's throats. Ratings for the WCB championship only surpassed baseball once - the year Kaitlin Clark played vs LSU.
Claiming those sports have a bigger national profile than baseball is a faulty premise at best.
Excellent pragmatic points. It’s not like we can just airlift the new DNF over to be the new SEZ expansion. At best, you’d increase football budget by around $1 million per year if you just nixed baseball entirely.
And 5-10 years from now, it will actually be a reduction of around that same amount, because that’s when we’ll have most if not all of the stadium construction debt paid off, and actually be turning a very small profit in baseball.
Yes, because home shopping network or whatever the 17 NHL had their deal with is “network TV”. Maybe the finals get a real network, but not most of it.
You should pump the brakes on the reality stuff. You might look less dumb.
That's interesting. I guess I've just heard the narrative repeated so much I believed it without ever checking. But you're right about ESPN bending over backwards to force softball on us and giving as little coverage as possible to the early rounds of the baseball tournament.
If L4 is saying one thing, the opposite is more likely to be true
There sure are some big name colleges on this list who seem to care about baseball. A lot of our own conference neighbors, in fact. The same ones that you're saying are going to leave us behind if we put any money at all into baseball. That seems incongruous.
I’m going to blow a few of you ignorant 17’s minds.
People that give lead gifts like this don't give to facilities OR NIL. They give to facilities AND NIL.
Be happy the Howards exist and are a good bulldog family
People that give lead gifts like this don't give to facilities OR NIL. They give to facilities AND NIL.
Be happy the Howards exist and are a good bulldog family
It's easy to spend money on baseball, WHEN YOU HAVE TWICE THE BUDGET as State. We don't have the luxury of being well-rounded athletic department like LSU and Florida.
I know that this will surprise everyone here that the clarion ledger would write anything bad about us, but for 2023
the clarion ledger shows MSU athletics with a loss of over $5,000,000
Sports Illustrated and USA Today show MSU athletics with a profit of over $13,000,000
the clarion ledger shows MSU athletics with a loss of over $5,000,000
Sports Illustrated and USA Today show MSU athletics with a profit of over $13,000,000
*Yawn*
A simple Google search shows that State’s budget is about 60 percent of both schools, which means we have about $20 million more than you say…
In my previous response to you, I told you to Be Cool and here you are still acting like a teenage Chicken Little who’s just discovered his first zit.
Leave the histrionics to the ones who possess the knowledge
Besides you’re not in the MFing athletics department and it’s not your job to worry about these things
Be Cool
Is there a ring measuring room in this new facility? We gotta get the boys ready (ready)!
Reminds me of the time I built a temperature controlled three car garage for my rusted out 74 Ford Pinto*
You really need to do more research or just stop arguing about stuff you know zero about. This past CWS final drew 2.8MM viewers the WCBB in 25, 8.6MM.
Hah!
You don’t know jack either
It’s a 3-game series average — for a total of 8.4 MM which suffers in the apples to oranges comparison because there’s only one winner-take-all game.
Game 3 of the College World Series was the most watched baseball game on ESPN — including Majors— last year.
When you pretend to do your research, 77, you need to remember to also compare apples to apples otherwise you’re just a tosser who demonstrates his lack of knowledge
The three-game Tennessee-Texas A&M Men’s College World Series Final averaged 2.82 million viewers on the ESPN networks, marking the second-most watched MCWS Final in the ESPN era and down 1% from the record-setting LSU-Florida series last year (2.86M).
MCWS Final slips, but second-most watched in ESPN era
Fueled by a big increase for Game 2 on ABC, the Men's College World Series Final finished just shy of last year's ESPN-era high.
www.sportsmediawatch.com
Yep.The three-game Tennessee-Texas A&M Men’s College World Series Final averaged 2.82 million viewers on the ESPN networks, marking the second-most watched MCWS Final in the ESPN era and down 1% from the record-setting LSU-Florida series last year (2.86M).
MCWS Final slips, but second-most watched in ESPN era
Fueled by a big increase for Game 2 on ABC, the Men's College World Series Final finished just shy of last year's ESPN-era high.
And 2.8 million times 3 games is 8.4 million total viewers of the series.
You need to do the Math, 77.
Besides you’re still comparing apples and oranges and haven’t addressed that Game 3 was the highest drawing baseball game — including Majors — last year…
So we could afford it in 2021, but not now?