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therightway

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He said that he thought it would be a good hire and thought that he had his batteries recharged. I always thought his golf cart was gas powered.
 

therightway

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He said that he thought it would be a good hire and thought that he had his batteries recharged. I always thought his golf cart was gas powered.
 

Todd4State

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It seemed like Croom was scared of Byrne- even before he lost to La Tech- and rightfully so. It also seemed to me like Croom kind of mailed it in a little bit- or got extra lazy his last year overall after he had his "big year".

I don't know if he expected to just stay around because of 2007 or if he just got burned out or what the deal was.
 

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And I don't think battery operated or motorized vehicles are allowed on the practice field. This should be quite and experience for Sylvester.
 

Todd4State

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that is better served as a follower rather than be the guy in charge. He will also be somewhere that he really wants to be- I questioned whether he even really wanted to be at MSU the entire time he was here.
 

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he was so incompetent from the getgo that he had to be one miserable man. It's too bad that he allowed LT and the university president to coerce him into taking it. I don't know if Saban will put up with his laziness, if he he is indeed hired.
 

cdjay

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Yea, black = lazy. That's what my granddaddy said too, the Ole MS racist that he was! Those kind should always be followers, not leaders!
 

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Al Borges and Ellis Johnson the coordinators to start with, and hired a bunch of guys that could recruit their tails off like Melvin to be the position coaches and hired a decent o-line coach and a great strength and conditioning coach, his tenure could have been different.

Of course, that's a lot of "ifs".

And I will say, I don't think we could have gotten Borges away from Auburn at that time.
 

Todd4State

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He did not focus enough on the Egg Bowl. Not that I think that our HC should spend all of his time and energy on it, but if you are going to coach in college, task number one is to figure out who your rival is and beat them. He genuinely wanted to beat Bama more than Ole Miss, and spent way more time and energy preparing for them, and that is stupid if you're the HC at MSU.
 

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I agree we could not have gotten him in 04 for sure that is when he got to Auburn. In 08 or 09 we could have gotten him because that was the year Tubbs hire Franklin. (3-2) The problem with Croom was where he drew the line in the sand and said that he would fire himself before he fired an assistant.
 

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Croom was going to fire Woody and hire Borges. Byrne wanted him to hire Tony Franklin and switch to a spread offense. Croom was determined to stick with the WCO and Byrne fired him.
 

Todd4State

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therightway said:
I agree we could not have gotten him in 04 for sure that is when he got to Auburn. In 08 or 09 we could have gotten him because that was the year Tubbs hire Franklin. (3-2) The problem with Croom was where he drew the line in the sand and said that he would fire himself before he fired an assistant.


Of course, Croom didn't keep his word on that. But I was talking about 04 when Croom came on board. You really could insert any competent OC 's name in for Al Borges. I just used Borges because he knows how to run the WCO, so in theory it would have been a good match for what Croom wanted to do.
 

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TnDawg76 said:
Croom was going to fire Woody and hire Borges. Byrne wanted him to hire Tony Franklin and switch to a spread offense. Croom was determined to stick with the WCO and Byrne fired him.


That Woody was going to be re-assigned or something- which can be taken for "fired", and they were going to use his health issues as a reason.

Hiring Tony Franklin would have been kind of ironic because he was the OC on the other side of the field in the 3-2 game.

I had heard that Borges had been approached by Croom, but that he turned it down. I kind of figured that Borges knew that Croom wouldn't be around a whole lot longer, that or he was trying to get more money. Also, if Croom had a lot of input into the offense, he may have been worried about Croom meddling.

I think Byrne wanted Croom gone anyway- I don't think he was solely going to fire him because he wanted him to change the scheme. I think Byrne wanted someone more like, well Dan Mullen. I say that because Byrne wanted someone who would really promote the program, really unite the fans, and win. That's kind of hard to do when your head coach is talking about how great Alabama is and how he doesn't care what the fans think.
 

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am I the only one who feels like a recharged Croom could be trouble over there? I mean as a teacher and motivator in a position coach role where he is comfortable? Relieved of the worries of overall management? At the school he loves? I think that might be a little trouble for the rest of us. Especially with Saban motivating him. I think the "little trouble" that I am speaking of will translate to tipping the scales on a few stud recruits every year that otherwise AU, MSU, LSU, OM, etc might be in a fight with them for.

Because they need that #3 (or whatever it is) in the country recruiting number to go up a couple notches.
 

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Somehow, Crxxms managed to get back onto the MState campus last fall and has been in charge of recruiting. I bet he's operating out of the back of the LT Center for Mediocrity. I think I remember seeing a little golf cart garage door on the back of that monstrosity.
 

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as your's.........would he/could he work the pace saban seems to demand. maybe he would but he's doesn't give one the impression of a high energy driven kind of coach. heck working a saban schedule, he'd never be able to keep his weight up.
 

Shmuley

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Saban is interviewing Lance Taylor (Jets WR coach and former bammer walk on '01-'03) tomorrow. High energy guy who has rocketed up the coaching ladder. If you ask me, this is the hire.
 

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I agree with you boys. However, I don't think he would have a lot of energy to recruit very hard.