Brandon F Walker - I'm with ya brother
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I'm there a well. Lebby went looking for another qb and we didn't get one that was better than the one we had. The plays are there. We just need to continue to improve there and o line line we have and have on defense.
This fire Lebby crap after getting us right there is BS. The Players still have to do it. Shapen may not be the guy but dammit, neither was Holloway up the middle 10 times a game.
I have not seen a ton of people calling for Lebby to fired. I’m sure there is plenty of it though. I can recognize the progress that has been made. But part of coaching is knowing what your guys can and can’t do. With how bad our OL is at pass blocking and Shapen being mediocre at best, I don’t think it’s a wise decision to try and get 6 more yards with Shapen having the ball. The risk was not worth the reward there.
He’s not going anywhere and of all years to coach shop, this most certainly isn’t the year to do it.
Very dumb coaching decision that cost us the win. It happens. Move on. Growing pains.
He’s right. I don’t even find it controversial we were throwing the ball in that situation. I think most college coaches are putting the ball in the air there in today’s game.
As a fan base we’re acting like we’re Lovie Smith and the Bears. Our kicker missed a FG from that exact distance earlier in the game, and against A&M.
And we had been killing them through the air. We had 150 yards passing in the 4Q alone. They had freshman chasing open WRs on that play too. We just didn’t execute.
As a fan base we’re acting like we’re Lovie Smith and the Bears. Our kicker missed a FG from that exact distance earlier in the game, and against A&M.
And we had been killing them through the air. We had 150 yards passing in the 4Q alone. They had freshman chasing open WRs on that play too. We just didn’t execute.
We literally got beat by a dumpster fire Florida team who fired their coach the next day. That was an SEC win put on a tee, and you swing and miss. There’s not many of those opportunities in this league, it’s usually all fast balls.
The thing that will forever make me ill about that game was that Florida knew or guessed the play call. And the least athletic, slowest guy on the field won the game for Florida. A team with a lame duck coach and all freshman secondary. Sickening
The talent on the field has improved at a greater pace than the talent wearing the headsets. Disappointing.
Sickening and dissapointing
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College football is a highly emotional sport, and if people like BW want to spend time responding to social media posts made within 24 hrs of a gut wrenching loss, that’s on them.
With that said, our fans have a right to be frustrated and disappointed.
The turnover was disappointing
The fact that Shapen was given the opportunity to completely screw up was disappointing
The fact that Shapen remains as our best option at QB is disappointing
Lebby’s continued shoot from the hip management of the offense is disappointing
Lebby’s winless SEC record is disappointing
Should Lebby be fired? Probably not, at least not yet. But his coaching resume desperately needs an SEC win, and he just completely pissed one away on Saturday.
With that said, our fans have a right to be frustrated and disappointed.
The turnover was disappointing
The fact that Shapen was given the opportunity to completely screw up was disappointing
The fact that Shapen remains as our best option at QB is disappointing
Lebby’s continued shoot from the hip management of the offense is disappointing
Lebby’s winless SEC record is disappointing
Should Lebby be fired? Probably not, at least not yet. But his coaching resume desperately needs an SEC win, and he just completely pissed one away on Saturday.
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It was good enough for a bowl every year, but people like you weren’t happy with just a bowl game every year and now you’ve got this ….. left behind.
Walker is correct. Some of y'all have never come to terms with just how bare the cupboard was when Lebby got here. Some of you also act like we have unlimited money to spend. We have a lot more than we used to but when you are trying to get new players for nearly every position that money doesn't go very far. Many of us said at the start of the season we could be a LOT better and the record might not show it. It HAS shown it, but the starting point was so dang low. You don't come back from how bad we were last year overnight, or in one year. The absolute worst move we could make right now is fire the coach.
Saying you can’t get rid of an employee that you know isn’t going to work just doesn’t make any sense.
“Shut the 17 up and be happy with your moral victories!” - BFW
I agree that we shouldn't fire him. Not because he isn't worthy of firing. Simply because I don't want to be hunting for a coach during this offseason.
When said employee has doubled production in a year, how in the heck do you know it isn't going to work. If you are going to fire people for doubling production you ain't gonna be able to get anyone to work for you that you would really want to work for you, especially when you already have a rep for a quick trigger, which we absolutely do.
We play in a league and 0 SEC wins from year 1 to year 2 is not doubling
Seems like he makes a lot of stupid play calls. A head coach probably has 20 things to worry with going on at any time during a game. An OC only has one thing to worry about. I am sorry he has to decide does he want to be a HC or a OC. At this time of his career trying to learn the ropes of a HC can't do both.
We’re not “doubling production” in any meaningful statistical category. If you’re counting win total as “doubling production”, then you have to take into account that one of the reasons he was able to double his win total this year is because he got skull drug by 17ing Toledo last year.
He’s also not doubling production in conference wins and that’s where he’s, rightly, getting called out. He gets a conference win and the chatter will die down.
To me , much like Mullen, Lebby is learning to coach on our dime and I believe he'll be above average (not ready to say good or great yet) before it's over. My hopes are he gets up to speed pretty soon and produces some good teams like Mullen did before he leaves.
Send me your cell # and I'll add you to a couple of text threads. I am friends with plenty of emotionally immature hotheads.
I never have liked this guy. My opinion of him hasn’t changed.
Can we put to bed the argument about head coaches calling the plays. Its really not that big of a deal.
That last possession was not the only blown scoring opportunity. We're seeing mental mistakes all over the field. That all comes down to coaching.
I don't have a problem with throwing a pass in that situation either. I just expect a much better effort coming out of a timeout.
I'm not sure firing Lebby makes sense right now. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if we make a change, though.
I don't have a problem with throwing a pass in that situation either. I just expect a much better effort coming out of a timeout.
I'm not sure firing Lebby makes sense right now. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if we make a change, though.
This seems like an insider, Athletic Department plea for help to make everyone shut up to me. That said, I don't think Lebby should be fired, at least not right now. He does need to decide whether he wants to be an Offensive coordinator or a Head coach. It's next to impossible in todays game to do both.
Three overthrown passes for TDs isn’t on the coach. Shapen has been making those throws all year. He just blew it.
I said this elsewhere, but no, most college coaches are not putting the ball in the air there, especially ones that have OLs that struggle protecting the QB and a QB that has a propensity to get rattled. You run the ball and then clock it 100 out of 100 times and kick the FG. If Ferrie ends up missing the kick, at least as a coach you put your team in position to win the game and the conversation among the fanbase is completely different afterward.
That’s a great story, but that’s all it is. A story. Back in the day of hard 20 and 25 limits on high schoolers to feed your team annually it may have relevance. Today’s game a coach can flip his entire team every year and some are doing it and winning games. We’ve largely done it and still can’t win. Then he had to bring in 2 more DC’s cause he didn’t wanna fire his 1st year ever DC that sucked so bad. He gave a mil to bring in a QB that won’t see the field from FSU. The future at QB was gifted him and he won’t play him. He’s spending money like it ain’t his. He’s calling awful games. And making the simplest of mistakes costing games. Not to mention he’s got his building closed off to media and fans. He’s not it.
OC needs to be up in the press box so he can see what's going on from bird eye view. That's where it's a big deal. Who's talking to the QB before the ball is snap?
Jeff Lebby made a dumb coaching decision and said he would make that same dumb decision again. That tells us everything we need to know about what to expect in the future.
Why not? There’s gonna be a huge pool of experienced candidates out there to choose from. I think it’s the best time to hire a former head coach. And we won’t be competing with many of the schools with openings anyway.
I don’t think you can put the argument to bed when sнit like Saturday continues to happen.
This is my frustration. I was part of the crowd sort of making fun of the people that had reset expectations so quickly. I was expecting 4 wins this year and would have said I'd consider 5 wins a sign Lebby is going to be pretty solid for us. I was not expecting any SEC team to work so hard to give us a W that we just would not take. It looked like both teams wanted their coach fired last night at times.
I'm not on the fire Lebby bandwagon by any means, but Saturday was the first game this season that actually cost Lebby goodwill in my mind. We have improved a lot and mostly it was players not making plays, but man is it concerning when that many players are making mistakes that cost us. I'd feel better if we were just out athleted but looked like we played close to our potential.
I am getting concerned that we are going to piss away all of our opportunities for SEC wins. I certainly don't want to be shopping for a coach this year, but our schedule has turned out to be much less of a gauntlet than we expected. If he can't pick up an SEC win, I'm going to be very concerned that he just doesn't have it, even if we have improved a lot just to be competitive in most of our SEC games.
Of all the things I'm bothered by, the playcall is the least of them. There's no crystal ball and I don't think taking a shot at a 47 yard fg was a no brainer. I'm more concerned by all the times we just refused to accept the gift UF was trying to give us.
My concern is that us pissing away wins is going to hammer us in recruiting. Hard for a head coach to sell coming to a program that is 0-16 in conference, even if he can honestly say his most recent 0-8 run was much improved from his first 0-8 run.
As I read on Twitter - Vandy can become a national championship contender in two years but we're crazy to think Lebby can win one SEC game in two years? We have such a loser mentality.
How many people have you fired? There are lots of reasons to that businesses rightly wait to get rid of the wrong guy. I've seen businesses wait because they want a new person (rather than somebody retiring in under a year) to make the hire. Several times it's because having the person there is better than nobody being there, and they wanted to at least have a plan for how they would operate with out them. One time they wanted to push more responsibilities to a relatively inexperienced employee that's well thought of to see if they could be the replacement before hiring somebody over them and losing them as a result. You don't just fire somebody because you know you could eventually do better. You need a plan for the short and long term.