Bret Bielema wants a B1G SEC challenge like basketball
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I would love to see a home and home with EVERY B1G team over the next 28 years. But Wisconsin would be a great starting point because of BB.
We will play in November at Wisconsin if Wisconsin will play early September in Arkansas.
BTW, this Saturday's game with Mississippi State in Fayetteville, Arkansas is scheduled to kick off after 6:00 pm. Temperature is predicted at 32 for kickoff with wind speed at 20mph.
Yeah I know it isn't 10 below and 2 feet of snow, but it will be cold nevertheless.
"Awfully bold talk for a one eyed fat man
Robert Duvall uttered that classic line in True Grit when John Wayne said he was coming to kill him.
I love the idea. I'm with Southern in thinking it would be a major hit on tv -- almost bowl game ratings IMO.
Ideal situation for me is half of the games down south in the beginning of the season and half up north in November. That would truly show how home field and weather conditions play out in the conferences.
Ideal situation for me is half of the games down south in the beginning of the season and half up north in November. That would truly show how home field and weather conditions play out in the conferences.
if this were to happen it most likely would be a labor day weekend neutral site type of arrangement. My guess is you would involve no more than 6 to 7 schools each year so over a 4 to 5 year period each school is involved twice.
I can see Met Life hosting 2 games a year over Labor day weekend (ie. Rutgers vs. Georgia and Penn St vs LSU / Tennesee)
Places like the Superdome would probably get Alabama and Florida vs. schools like Minnesota or potentially Nebraska.
You would unlikely see teams like Alabama play Ohio St in these games unless there is a huge payday for the conferences since it can affect the playoff picture.
I can see Met Life hosting 2 games a year over Labor day weekend (ie. Rutgers vs. Georgia and Penn St vs LSU / Tennesee)
Places like the Superdome would probably get Alabama and Florida vs. schools like Minnesota or potentially Nebraska.
You would unlikely see teams like Alabama play Ohio St in these games unless there is a huge payday for the conferences since it can affect the playoff picture.
I like that idea and sounds fair too.
It's all nice and fun discussion, unfortunately I don't ever see this coming to fruition for some of the reasons already stated.
Awesome stuff here guys! I addressed some of the concerns in my proposal.
Fun conversation for a Friday heading into an awesome weekend of games!
Fun conversation for a Friday heading into an awesome weekend of games!
Rutgers tried scheduling more SEC schools but only Arkansas was willing to give us an actually home and home series. So Kudos to them!
This would be like the Yankees playing the Red Sox with both teams at their best. No other games would count. Nobody'd be watching them. ACC, Big12, and Pac12 (though not as much) would be relegated to alsorans. ESPN couldn't have THAT.
And while Fox would jump at it, just think of what it does for BTN and the SEC Network.
And while Fox would jump at it, just think of what it does for BTN and the SEC Network.
Some SEC teams could do it, other could not. Some SEC teams already have annual OOC rivals that they play at the end of the season: Louisville/Kentucky, Clemson/South Carolina, GT/Georgia, Florida St./Florida, so they would probably not be for it. And, if it was the last week of the season, that would also interfere with some traditional rivalry games: Ohio St./Michigan, Alabama/Auburn, Tenn/Vandy, LSU/Texas A&M,...
I can see more out of conference games scheduled, but I doubt it can be done near the end of the season.
I can see more out of conference games scheduled, but I doubt it can be done near the end of the season.
Many New Year's Day Bowls are just that (Outback, Capital One, etc) and the overrated SEC usually gets exposed..would not mind seeing a kickoff day equivalent to those Bowls, but SEC would never do it..Alabama is only team that schedules tough OOC games in Sept..
It's from "True Grit".
I'd like a B1G/SEC challenge. I'd have to believe it would be played week 2 or 3. B1G has 9 Conf Games from here on. Can't see them breaking it up by throwing this in the middle.
Another issue is the B1G schedules years in advance. You can't decided who plays who and where in the spring can you? At best It'd have to be each school gets a home game every other year and you slot the visitors.
I just don't see the Alabamas and OSUs of the world going for this.
Going to 'Bama @ LSU next year. I'll let you guys know my thoughts on playing at Tiger Stadium!!
Like someone said above, there already is a B1G - SEC challenge, and it's in the post season.
Sugar Bowl - Ohio State 42 - 35 Alabama B1G
Outback Bowl - Wisconsin 34 - 31 Auburn B1G
Citrus Bowl - Missouri 33 - 17 Minnesota SEC
Gator Bowl - Tennessee 45 - 28 Iowa SEC
Would be an interesting in-season series.
Sugar Bowl - Ohio State 42 - 35 Alabama B1G
Outback Bowl - Wisconsin 34 - 31 Auburn B1G
Citrus Bowl - Missouri 33 - 17 Minnesota SEC
Gator Bowl - Tennessee 45 - 28 Iowa SEC
Would be an interesting in-season series.
Would love to see it but with the Big Ten teams moving to 9 conference games, it just wouldnt fit in. To have 7 home games (which most Big Ten schools want) it means only ONE OOC - and there is no way they will do that and make it an SEC school every year.
But thats what bowls are for anyway.
But thats what bowls are for anyway.
I tried to address these concerns in what I wrote on my site earlier today. Id love to get feedback on my proposal...
http://www.salsoothsayer.com/#!blank/ta2mn
Didn't Big Ten try this with PAC but it failed so we went to 9 conference. I could see this replacing the 9th game. The alternative would be to only do but games as a Big school if you want 7, or do 1 buy, 1 home-home to alternate 6/7 games.
This site proposed the challenge back in 2014 but based it on something other than 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc. to make it somewhat entertaining. RU drew A&M as its matchup.
http://www.csnchicago.com/big-ten/purely-fantasy-football-creating-big-ten-sec-challenge
http://www.csnchicago.com/big-ten/purely-fantasy-football-creating-big-ten-sec-challenge
This is one of those thing that falls under "repeat something enough, and everyone thinks it's true." You are leaving one big factor in this. Big Ten teams don't like playing OOC games in November either. The Big Ten has traditionally played its OOC games at the beginning of the year, and finishes up with conference games. It's rare that Big Ten teams play OOC games later in the year. You and other posters keep pushing this idea that SEC teams don't want to come North in November, but you fail to acknowledge that Big Ten schools usually don't have any openings for OOC games in November. Just because you want something to be true doesn't mean it actually is.
You are correct that B1G schools play OOC early all conference games later. But when was the last time the Gators left the state of Florida for an OOC game in any month?
You see the Kinnick today? That's why SEC would never give up their chicken **** saturday schedule to come north and play real teams. Yes they are scared
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/47...p4?versionId=QhQ6YqDHqJapwIKEOZXB1EawdTOMwWZP
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/47...p4?versionId=QhQ6YqDHqJapwIKEOZXB1EawdTOMwWZP
OH you mean the scheulde where we play number 9 and then numer 12 back to back? And if we win out we face #5? 3 top 12 teams three weeks in a row? Yep doesn't face up to that "killer" SEC scedule of FCS teams.
Maybe you should wait until your team can beat their MAC opponents before you start talking about schedule.
Maybe you should wait until your team can beat their MAC opponents before you start talking about schedule.
Yea they play each other in bowls but in season is a little different. It's in the flow of the season without the month off and if the B10 1/2 of the games were in November like suggested above it could possibly bring the elements into play which you'll rarely see in the top bowls.
It's very unlikely to happen because I don't think either conference would do it but it's a fun idea.
Most B1G schools already will be playing a Power 5 opponent and there will only be three OOC slots beginning next year, so this is not needed. After Northwestern beat Vandy away and home a couple of years ago, they pulled out of the last two games of the series. Most schools probably would rather control their own opponents, rather than be tied into some league vs. league format year after year. These challenges are fine in basketball, where you have 30 games in a season, but not really practical for football. If B1G and SEC schools really want to schedule each other, they are free to do so in the future.
Also bowls tend to be matched with an eye toward attendance and just filling slots for certain teams, so you can end up with one league's runner-up vs. another's sixth-place team etc. I remember a few years back when a 7-5 Northwestern team got matched up with a UCLA team that was something like 10-1. Not surprisingly, UCLA won.
This is another thing people harp on, without basing in on any logic. The reason Florida doesn't play many OOC games outside the state of Florida is because they have Florida St as an OOC rival. Florida St is, you know, one of the top programs in the country. If Florida was ducking top competition, then you might have a point. But, when they have a team like Florida St on their schedule every year, you are really just trying to find anything you can to bash another team/conference you don't like. It matters who you play, not where you play. I don't care if you travel to China, if the team you are playing is crap, you don't get extra credit just because you had a long plane ride.
Urban might have had a heart attack, but Brett is liable to get one if your boys don't start playing better defense than they did today. I don't think I've seen so many open receivers on both sides in a game outside the Big 12 in quite some time.
College teams are weird. We've had a very good defense at Northwestern most of the year, but looked as if we couldn't have tackled a midget team against Iowa, although part of that was our offense stranding the defense on the field for most of the game. It's been a strange year for college ball overall — few dominant teams and most of the P5 conferences have looked underwhelming at one time or another.
After seeing the end of that Arkansas/Miss. St game and the score all I have to say is sorry UCF/Cincy it looks like the B12 has already expanded.