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2nd To None said:
Well, weā€™ve been waiting on this.
The perfect teaching moment.

We will stretch a little, but not really.
The point will be made.
The point we have made for decades.

Chambers played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.
Hough played ā€œupā€ last week. They lost.
Mallard Creek played ā€œupā€ this week. Lost.
Weddington played ā€œupā€ this week. Lost.
Dudley played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.
Shelby played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.
Reidsville played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.

The top teams in the State, across classifications, played ā€œupā€ this week (or last), and they all lost.
But every losing coach will tell you, it will make them betterā€¦.for the season.
The loss will expose the weaknesses, with time to correct or adjust to them.

ā€œSo what?ā€, you ask. Most understand that, correct?
No, they donā€™t.
We have had the biggest arguments and most aggressive abuse trying to make this point, primarily to the 4A crowd, but also to 3A and 2A folks as well. Play ā€œupā€, it will make you better. ā€œBut 4A canā€™t play ā€œupā€ ā€œ, they said.
They just did. And lost.
Powerful Indy, at their finest, played ā€œupā€ in Ohio. And lost.

Some thought, play it safe, schedule cupcakes for non conference, go undefeated, and you will get the highest seeds, and now, perhaps a bye.
Some still think that way.
It is past time for strength of schedule to be considered in year end seeding.
We will not hold our breath.
But finally, many are starting to see the great value there is in scheduling non conference play against a team that may be better than you.

Want more proof?

There is a high school football program in NC that has been playing ā€œupā€ forever.
Many years, 40% of their schedule has been against teams from higher classes. Some years, it was over 50%. Many years, including this year,
scheduled teams 2 classes ā€œupā€.
That program has won more games and more State Titles in the last 60 years than any other.
They have won 92% of games within their class.
The closest other program of any class is at 80%.
But in only 3 of those seasons were they undefeated.

Now you know why.
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It will make all of the teams better. I agree that coach's will see weaknesses to work on when you play top notch competition that get camouflaged playing weak sisters. There have been a lot of teams that have historically loaded up with cupcakes in the front half of the season to a only collapse in the playoffs the first time they see adversity. Pretty sure you are talking about Shelby. They play up every year, win state championships in their class as a habit and have won a state championship with 4 losses "playing up" before. Good teams will learn. Good teams get better.
 
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2nd To None said:
Well, weā€™ve been waiting on this.
The perfect teaching moment.

We will stretch a little, but not really.
The point will be made.
The point we have made for decades.

Chambers played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.
Hough played ā€œupā€ last week. They lost.
Mallard Creek played ā€œupā€ this week. Lost.
Weddington played ā€œupā€ this week. Lost.
Dudley played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.
Shelby played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.
Reidsville played ā€œupā€ this week. They lost.

The top teams in the State, across classifications, played ā€œupā€ this week (or last), and they all lost.
But every losing coach will tell you, it will make them betterā€¦.for the season.
The loss will expose the weaknesses, with time to correct or adjust to them.

ā€œSo what?ā€, you ask. Most understand that, correct?
No, they donā€™t.
We have had the biggest arguments and most aggressive abuse trying to make this point, primarily to the 4A crowd, but also to 3A and 2A folks as well. Play ā€œupā€, it will make you better. ā€œBut 4A canā€™t play ā€œupā€ ā€œ, they said.
They just did. And lost.
Powerful Indy, at their finest, played ā€œupā€ in Ohio. And lost.

Some thought, play it safe, schedule cupcakes for non conference, go undefeated, and you will get the highest seeds, and now, perhaps a bye.
Some still think that way.
It is past time for strength of schedule to be considered in year end seeding.
We will not hold our breath.
But finally, many are starting to see the great value there is in scheduling non conference play against a team that may be better than you.

Want more proof?

There is a high school football program in NC that has been playing ā€œupā€ forever.
Many years, 40% of their schedule has been against teams from higher classes. Some years, it was over 50%. Many years, including this year,
scheduled teams 2 classes ā€œupā€.
That program has won more games and more State Titles in the last 60 years than any other.
They have won 92% of games within their class.
The closest other program of any class is at 80%.
But in only 3 of those seasons were they undefeated.

Now you know why.
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Has Shelby won a game this year?
 
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2nd To No One

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btango said:
2007 Indy was not an impressive team. Rank the Knotts era teams at Indy (2000-2009) and 2007 is 9th in front of 2009. Definitely not their finest.
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btango

Why do you always feel the need to jump in and negatively comment on what we post?

Indyā€™s 109 game winning streak was ended in 2007 playing ā€œupā€ out of state. ā€œFinestā€ was a reference to that streak, which still stands. Not that season.
But you know that.
We have no way of knowing whether ā€œthe streakā€ would have ever existed had Indy played ā€œupā€ a few games each season consistently over those 7 years. Try 40% of the time.
We seriously doubt it.
How many times did they play ā€œupā€ during the streak, btango? Of course you have that info.
Once? Twice? Three times?
99% of their wins were against same classification 4A NC high schools.
Correct, btango?
Indyā€™s streak was fantastic. There is no attempt here to diminish that. Only put it in perspective.
And they did not need to play ā€œupā€ to improve and dominate 4A in NC. Knotts was that good as a coach and in assembling players.
And history has confirmed that.
There may never be another individual coach in NC as successful as Knotts.

But there is a program that is. Even better.
 
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2nd To None said:
btango

Why do you always feel the need to jump in and negatively comment on what we post?

Indyā€™s 109 game winning streak was ended in 2007 playing ā€œupā€ out of state. ā€œFinestā€ was a reference to that streak, which still stands. Not that season.
But you know that.
We have no way of knowing whether ā€œthe streakā€ would have ever existed had Indy played ā€œupā€ a few games each season consistently over those 7 years. Try 40% of the time.
We seriously doubt it.
How many times did they play ā€œupā€ during the streak, btango? Of course you have that info.
Once? Twice? Three times?
99% of their wins were against same classification 4A NC high schools.
Correct, btango?
Indyā€™s streak was fantastic. There is no attempt here to diminish that. Only put it in perspective.
And they did not need to play ā€œupā€ to improve and dominate 4A in NC. Knotts was that good as a coach and in assembling players.
And history has confirmed that.
There may never be another individual coach in NC as successful as Knotts.

But there is a program that is. Even better.
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2nd To No One

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704cougardad said:
Remember when Brenner the female kicker for High Point Central booted the winning field goal late in the 1995 3A semifinals to oust the Golden Lions.
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Hey, thatā€™s a good one.

Remember the fake punt in the 1998 semifinals (Western Finals) at that same High Point Central program to send the Golden Lions on to the 1998 State Title?

Shelby has been to 15 of the last 19 Western Finals, since 2003.
Think about it.
 
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2nd To No One

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btango said:
Only comment when one of you make a post that requires clarification.
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See. You do it on multiple threads to us.
Who put you in charge of clarifications of ou
And you are often mistaken.

Starting to think you are just messing with us.
You already know what you attempt to clarify.

You have no authority. Nor are you objective.
 
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Mallard Creek has to burn this film and move on. Next week we should get an idea of good MC is. Myers Park lost yesterday and might not be good this year so I am quite curious to see the next Mallard Creek game.
 
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I would like to see a list of their school year that each of those players showed up at Buford. They are more like a private school that goes out and gets what they need each year.
 
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Trent Dilfer team Lipscomb Academy,TN looking pretty good against Thompson,AL who lost to Buford the week before
 
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