Israel doesn't have a plane that can carry these bombs. IF we get involved it will simply be to drop a handful of these big boys on the necessary nuclear sites in Iran. Yes more than one in particular on the mountain site. Is there any other way to insure Iran does not get a nuke ? Not that anyone knows of. I'm sure some SPS poster does tho. Does anyone want them having a few nukes ?? I'm sure it would be problematic. I'm honestly surprised they have not utilized some dirty bombs yet. Anyway, in before the lock.
Bunker busters
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Any chance we can beat 2 SEC teams this season? If so, who?
Iran and Israel.
One more cup of coffee will summon my bunker buster
I think the US transferred MOAB several months ago to Iseral and has not given them permission to use them. It is coming. I think Trump is hoping either Iran will give up the nukes or their government will get overthrown. There will be a lot of nuclear stuff going into the air if they drop that MOAB. Don't kid yourself Trump will let it roll. He dropped it on a Serian Air Base killing a bunch of Russian Pilots the last time he was in office. He's not going to let it drop on the capital. It will hit the underground nuke sites.
Maybe Iran is doing this because they're stressed and miserable. Perhaps we should drop slump busters instead of bunker busters. Then we could try negotiating again.
Nope. Very little chance we can beat even 1 SEC team this season, but "on any given Saturday....". Won't happen twice though.
We have a great history in the Middle East: Iran (1953), Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen. Maybe we should learn from the past and stay out of this thing. If we do get involved, it should be a requirement for every politician's kid to be on the front line.
Apparently, a brass hat with the Revolutionary Guard (atleast until he gets taken out) made a comment that closing the Strait of Hormuz was "under consideration". If anything gets the United States involved, it would be that. That might be why another carrier group is leaving the Pacific to the Middle East.
Considering Iran trained and funded the Iraq insurgency and trained then in how to create IEDs out of artillery shells which killed and maimed many of our troops, I am quite fine with a few B2 delivered MOP created craters in Iran
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Will the MOAB penetrate 1.5 miles into a mountain? I thought the large version of the Bunker Buster that can only be delivered by the B2 could do that?
Israel doesn't have a B2 to deliver the bunker buster needed
Hopefully Iran's drone factories will be targeted. That could easily put Russia at a disadvantage in Ukraine.
I think there is a difference in putting boots on the ground vs using a B2 to deliver a bunker buster.
I get that we don't want new wars, but the world isn't going to be more peaceful by us playing isolationist. There is a narrow needle to thread to find that balance but it's important we find it.
And FWIW, we've been finding it. Americans don't want boots on the ground but also don't realize that Delta Force & the Seals are doing special ops missions constantly that go unreported
I am in no way in favor of Iran having nukes. I am a bit surprised at this myself which makes me wonder that if they haven’t, (easily could give something like that to Hamas or Hezbollah) could it be that what we’ve been told by the media and government that Iran is is not completely accurate?not exactly lovers of peace, but just not quite what we are told.
Less than the chance Iran has of developing nukes by this fall
At one time we had learned that lesson. I guess after 80 years a lot of us forget.
This is 100% accurate. Nobody wants to live in a world where nations like Iran are not afraid of the United States. The 2nd Iraq war was perhaps one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in US history, but that does not mean we need to start staying on the sidelines.
Yeah, I won't argue that info could be incorrect or even manipulated. They have been " weeks away" for years. Still better safe than sorry and no way I would advocate for boots on the ground. We never should have toppled Hussein or Gadafi. Big mistakes as usual. And no, the MOAB will not penetrate deep enough. Actually will take multiple bunker busters to assure success in the deep mountain asset
They did reposition some B52, but I am not sure if there is another delivery system. I really don't care just take it out. We can't have those crazy bastard with one.
The Middle East will never be peaceful. Part of the problem is how the British drew the lines of the nations during WW1, cutting between different religious groups. Also, one of the reasons they hate us is that we keep dropping bombs every few years. I would want a nuke too if I had generations of my family blown up by Israel and the USA. Maybe we should sit down with them and apologize and seek peace. It was working with Trump and North Korea until people got in the way. It can work here.
I am always amazed at what Iseral can do with their military.
Sorry! I came for what i thought was pics of some sort of slump buster for the guys holed up in a bunker. Some of them gals are pretty hot
No one's family would've been blown up by Israel if they just accepted Israel as a country.
That's the issue here. If Israel laid their arms down tomorrow, there would be genocide. If Iran & it's proxies laid their arms down tomorrow, there would be peace.
Peace is completely in the hands of those that hate Israel. Not the other way around
I am talking tactics. But since you brought it up, they do produce their own tanks. They are damn good tanks and other weapons.
No it won't. We have tried. They will not seek peace. They don't want peace. Their whole religion and identity is based on either kill the infidels or subjugate them. We are the infidels. Hell, they don't even like each other, but they will band together to fight against us and Israel.
They aren't exactly like us, but they are not completely irrational. Helping somebody set off a dirty bomb would rally everybody against them. Everybody kinda sorta pretends that Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis aren't Iran proxies so Iran doesn't catch the full wrath that they probably deserve for the killing they sponsor. If they set off a dirty bomb, that mutual pretending goes away and they also galvanize other countries around never allowing Iran to have a nuclear bomb. If they ever get a nuclear bomb, they probably won't be keen to use it either. They will ramp up their offenses through proxies and rely on the threat of the nuclear bomb to limit the damage an Israel or US might do in retaliation.
I think that was the big lesson leaders took from the second gulf war. You want to be North Korea, and have a nuke and preferably an ideological partner with nukes.
I am for peace; I am also for supporting Israel, I can tell you it is written, and I believe! Iran is one evil nation; I pray for a new regime and peace!
I was hoping this was one of those threads with a cheeky little title that tricks people, and it was actually going to be a discussion on how difficult some of the bunkers were at this year‘s U.S. Open.
I was already and geared up to talk about the Church Pews and Big Mouth.
I was already and geared up to talk about the Church Pews and Big Mouth.
I hope they find a way to do it without using our planes, but eliminating any possibility of Iran getting a nuke is great for EVERYONE.
Even the arab nations want this. They aren't saying it explicitly but they are saying it.
And the fact they have funded every single terrorist organization that hates the USA and Israel. Even the other reasonable Arab nations hate the regime. Hail, the people of Iran hate the regime.
They may not have a nuke yet but you can bet they are trying. Otherwise they'd have signed a deal already that eliminated nuclear.
They don't want nuclear power for energy. They have enough oil to last a millenia.
Definitely was a mistake, but it also proved a point. We can still 17 you up whether its justified or not. And it was justified. Just not based on WMD.
Exactly. They would allow real inspections. It's just like when your girlfriend loses her mind cause you wanna look thru her phone. At this point tho the job needs to be finished. We are bad about half a$$ing schitt. Regime change needs to be facilitated too. Imo
