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cowbell9

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...are transient and try to stiff the landlord at every turn. After awhile, you learn to be an ******* so you wont lose any money. The damage that they cause is unbelievable.
 

cowbell9

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...so what?! Atleast you know where he stands. And for the record, I've forgten more than you will ever know. Best of luck to you though. Go out and kick ***.
 

TBonewannabe

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Renters just treat everyone like they will trash the place. Crabtree told me that they were keeping my deposit, when I asked them why she pointed to the fact that the house we were living in had foundation problems that they had to fix. The same problems that was there when we moved in. That was the only damage. We actually took a day just to clean it up before we moved it because it was so bad. I have no problem paying if a landlord lists what your deposit is covering. Cleaned carpet -$35, cleaned stove-$20. I do have problems when someone is keeping your deposit even though the apartment is in better shape than when you moved in. They are simply taking your deposit as unearned income. And if your name is Crabtree, go <17> yourself.
 

cowbell9

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...I assume you documented everything you just said. When I rented (20 years ago) I documented everything.
 

BCash

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cowbell9 said:
...so what?! Atleast you know where he stands. And for the record, I've forgten more than you will ever know. Best of luck to you though. Go out and kick ***.
I've been doing that for the past 23 years, I don't plan on stopping now.
 

hullabaloodog

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but... Dan's personality, apartments, hat, and sons have absolutely nothing to do with his qualifications as a candidate for mayor.
 

cowbell9

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...are just plain ignunt. They fail to mention that he pays a **** load of TAXES on that property.
 

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And he may not be the largest landowner in town, but he employes the largest landowner i.e. Lynne Spruill.

I would laugh in Dan Camp's face if he ever claimed the Nite Route. That idea was from the Student Association, and Dan only allowed it to be fully funded in the past year or so. Also, I dont know if I would be bragging about the Cotton District. It looks like crap now, and ask anyone who rents from Dan Camp how friendly, approchable and "good spokesman" he is. In short, Dan Camp isnt going to do anything that isnt good for his bank account.</p>
Yeah he is an *** but he gets things fixed and quick. The District is NOT a ********. It's the only place in town that students are actually proud to live in.
 

starkvillekid

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How many of you whiners are even registered to vote here in Starkville? If you are, do you even take the time to vote?

Also, all you are complaining about what vehicles Camp drives and what hat he wears - I just bet you drive a dinged up, muddy truck while wearing a trucker hat!
 

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Glad to see someone else make the comment about Camp's personality with respect to his job performace. People can call him as big of an @ss as they like, a vast majority of these comments may well be based in truth. However, the greedym, redneck developers in Starkville and the "powers that be" were long overdue for someone to tell them to SUCK IT. Camp was the man. I contend that Camp remains the man. I wish I lived inside the city limits so that I could vote for him on Tuesday. Camp supports sidewalks, cold beer, recycling, public schools, buying local, raised bed gardens, Thai food, Target, hippies selling beads, purple buildings with dumbassed statues on top; what is not to love? I also credit him for cracking down on broke assed vehicles and run down houses/buildings. Starkville could use a few more years with him leading.

Cox seems cool enough. Better than other choices in the past; should he win I would not be disappointed.

Wiseman is from a quality family. I wish he had run for Alderman to gain experience, kind of like Cox did.

Tuesday should be interesting. </p>
 

kendrickjohnson

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Dan Camp only tolerates the college students renting from him the in Cotton District. Him and his douchebag sons act like they are royalty in that town. That is why so many people don't think he deserves to be re-elected. Granted he has done some good things for Starkville, but who is to say someone else couldn't do a better job, without being so damn cocky about it?

And to whoever said the Cotton District is well maintained: you obviously have not been in many apartments/houses there in some time. There are several apartments that go through years of different renters without a damn thing ever getting fixed.

It is nice to see some viable candidates standing up to douchebag Dan.
 

topdawg.sixpack

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Another rumor started by Cox and Co. I do find it funny that Cox and Camp both attack Wiseman, like he is the clear frontrunner. Maybe they know something none of the rest of us do, because the way I see it is that all three candidates have a legtimate shot.

The Sunday Sales debate has been very quiet in this race. All three candidates are saying they will not veto it if presented with the legislation, although Cox has been known to tell different groups different things on this issue. </p>
 

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the only reason that I would do it is to try to teach the leeches a lesson, and that's not going to happen because that means nothing to them.
Perhaps it's been a while since you've rented, and maybe you're friends with some of the people who own the large complexes. If so, you probably hear the way they spit the words "college kids" disdainfully, and complain about this and that. I have heard Mr. Camp himself talk about his renters like they are the absolute scum of the earth, and anything that he does for them, even fixing things, is a favor they don't deserve.
Having rented from several places in town, the screwjob that most renters get when they move out is NOT justified, and is just someone being greedy. And you feel completely powerless because someone knows that you're not going to do anything about it.
 

TBonewannabe

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There were a couple of places I rented from would say " we are keeping your deposit for whatever" legitimate reason and I didn't care. I had our heater go out during an ice storm when I was there. After several days, I had to threaten to take the repairs out of my rent before they finally fixed it. It seems like most things in life, the worst sticks with you and the good just kind of fade from memory. I will say I rented from Grady Mitchener sp? and he fixed whatever I had wrong as soon as he could. I never had problems from him, I would suggest to anyone to rent from him without reservations. Crabtree can burn in hell.
 

joe lee dunn

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Starkville has grown despite its leaders. I am actually quite surprised by it too. Cold beer was going to happen anyways so I doubt Dan can claim that. I understand politics is a game. I have played and am playing this "game". I am not sure who i am backing but it is not Dan Camp. He has spoken out against too many things that Starkville needs. Justice complex is one of the main issues he has been against. Now for experience, Dan has more experience than Matt??? That's absurd considering they have both been serving for the same amount of time. I know Matt Cox and Parker Wiseman very well and I would say either would be great. The Board of Aldermen need new blood as well. Seeing PC and Sumner leave office are great things. We need people who are going to support Sunday alcohol sales! There is no point in having an ordinance against Sunday alcohol sales when it is hurting the economic atmosphere in a town. Hurting local restuarants and bars. The ordinance is also keeping new business out of Starkville. Buffalo Wild wings and Outback Steak house to name a couple. All I know is out with the old and in with the new.

Hell, maybe I should run for Mayor of Starkville next term.
 

ElectroSpanish

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The real question is whose the odd man out in the primary? With these three we'll definitely have a runoff in two weeks.

All three's position on Sunday Sales is to support whatever action is taken by the BOA.
We have a weak mayor form of Gov't so who we should want as mayor largley depends upon the personality of the board. It is insane that we have complete city wide elections for all offices simultaneously, but that's what we've got so this is how I see it. With the devisiveness and asshattery on the current board an ******* like Dan was the best we could hope for but if all things work (which it won't) we'll have a new more progressive (i.e. sunday sales) board that understands how to run city government. If you want someone who understands public policy Parker is your guy. If you want someone who is going to make potential Starkville investors feel warm and fuzzy vote Matt Cox. If you think we'll get more of the same with the BOA then Dan Camp is the best choice.

For those voting in Starkville wards here is the best case scenario:
Ward 1 - Mark Duncan (yes on Sunday Sales) - all opponents no
Ward 2 - Sandra Sistrunk (yes on Sunday Sales) - opponent no
Ward 3 - Toss up
Ward 4 - Richard Corey (yes on Sunday Sales) Any students thinking of voting for the two other clowns running should be beaten. I'm not saying students shouldn't be in office but it is unconsionable that those two guys are continuing to run. They no nothing about city government and there is a lot more to being Ward 4 Alderman than City/University relations which is their only platform issue. Actually the City/University relations part should be between the mayor and university president.
Ward 5 - Jeremiah Dumas (yes on Sunday Sales) - all opponents no
Ward 6 - Janette Self - she may vote no but her opponent definitely will.
Ward 7 - Roy Perkins (unopposed - and why we need term limits)

This election is not about Sunday Sales but the candidates position on this issue is an indicator of how they will lead. And what they want for the city.
 

joe lee dunn

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ElectroSpanish said:
Ward 4 - Richard Corey (yes on Sunday Sales) Any students thinking of voting for the two other clowns running should be beaten. I'm not saying students shouldn't be in office but it is unconsionable that those two guys are continuing to run. They <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">no</span> nothing about city government and there is a lot more to being Ward 4 Alderman than City/University relations which is their only platform issue. Actually the City/University relations part should be between the mayor and university president.
Interesting take on this. I am supporting one of those clowns. Nicholas Papas. Funny you should mention that HIS platform only deals with university relations. The only thing that he mentions in his entire platform is that he wants to prove relations between the university and the city. HIS platform takes on Starkville's real issues unlike Vanhorns or Corey's. You obviously have no idea whats going on in Starkville if you want Corey in office. Corey is the real flip flopper on the BOA. No experience? its hard to have much experience coming right out of college, but he has headed a beautification committee and been one of the more influential people in Noxubee county. I know he wont text in BOA meetings and fall asleep in BOA meetings like Corey has. Nick will be more professional and will stand for what he believes in as well.
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">You, my friend, are as retarded as powe, since you said "no" as "know".</span>

www.nickpapas.com , if you dont believe me about his platform.
 

vorticityDawg

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Do you honestly think that Dan, or any other candidate, would make a decision in the best interest of Starkville if it ever had the potential to hurt his own bottom line? This is certainly not a post against Dan, but extensive property ownership may be his biggest drawback.
 

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"Biggest landowner" comment came from some kid who writes for The Reflector. There are folks who own far more property (land) and properties (buildings) than Camp. Just look at some of these huge rental complexes in town. At least Camp has built a great neighborhood from a bad part of town that he likes enough to actually make his home in. These other property owners wouldn't dare live in what they have built.

Experience matters and Cox ain't got it. Lost the only job he ever had. Someone needs to look into why IP let him go. Wiseman has never had a job. Lists his NC grad school education as experience. Camp has experience in spades. Has done a great job as mayor.</p>
But he's a dick. i used to live in the Cotton District and old impressions are hard to shake.
 

ElectroSpanish

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You have to be kidding me. I'm not saying Corey is a great alderman I'm merely saying that neither VanHorn nor Papas understand anything about what's going on in the city. I don't think at this time we need folks learning on the job. And just so we're on the same page I'd say that four years ago Corey had about as much of a clue as Papas does right now. Another thing I'd like to address, I don't understand why people get so surprised when elected officials flip flop and Corey changing his position on one issue, the road bond, isn't enough of a record for the label. And Corey made the right choice. Here's why, I would like to see a larger bond passed but without a long term comprehensive capital improvements plan, capital improvements budget, and land use plan we're just wasting our money. We're essentially taking out a loan to continue to do what we've always done which is patch. How can the board in good faith ask for that kind of money without a plan. But I digress.

Ask your friend Nick about important issues like a capital improvements plan, storm water drainage, parks and recreation, sewage, extending utilities to annexed areas, multi-modal transportation, two percent restaurant tax, and the like. I'll give him credit for at least attending some BOA meetings lately, but Marnita Henderson has been attending for more than a decade that doesn't make her a quality candidate either. If he's graduating does he intend to live in Starkville for his full term? A lot of what is on his platform he can do as a private citizen and student, particularly the beautification initiatives. Will he he still focus on this if he isn't elected? I've saw him in action fielding softballs at the Starkville Young Professionals forum which is where my clown statement comes from. starkvilleyoungprofessionals.wordpress.com/forum-1/ , if you don't believe me.
<br style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Joe Lee, three things I doubt we're friends, I'm not retarded, and I wear socks. My sincerest apologies for not proof reading a message board post more carefully and I won't proof this one.</span>
 

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That said, I'm voting for Dan again. Not only as a Starkville resident, but also as a rental property owner. And he supports Sunday beer sales, and he's for the Municipal Complex being located downtown, and he pushed for more road money ($12 million that Cox and company cut back to $3 million because they are pussies). Dan can be an ***, but he's also been a good mayor.

And for you disgruntled tenants, google "Mississippi Residential Landlord and Tenant Act". It's worth reading.
 

topdawg.sixpack

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Dan is running the same campaign with the same issues as he did four years ago, as if the past four years when he was in office did not count. He passed the road bond, right before election time. I don't doubt Dan's business success or his role as a landlord. However, his attitude and personality leaves much to be desired, especially to out of town businesses looking to add jobs to the economy.
 

starkvillekid

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Starkville Now is definitely NOT my source for news. If the lying, double talking, tell-everyone-what-they-want-to-hear, running buddy of left-wing Roy Perkins, running buddy of right-wing Rodney Lincoln (aka Jim Mills) MATT COX doesn't win the mayor's race, StarkvilleNow may go dark. The only beverage Robbie the Bartender is serving is Cox Koolaid!

It's a hoot that Wiseman is winning their lame poll. Maybe Matt will spend the evening calming his preelection jitters by voting for himself over and over and over and ......
 

cowbell9

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.. a Mayor should have no other career? No other business intrests? Nothing? that is stupidity in its purest form.
 
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You have made it more than apparent you want to Dan Camp. We get it we really do. I probably would have voted for camp if I were still in Starkville but you are quickly making me hope that he loses.
 

StarkvilleNow

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Maybe Matt will spend the evening calming his preelection jitters by voting for himself over and over and over and ......
That is really, really funny. That may make it into the website tomorrow.
 

joe lee dunn

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I'm not Nick Papas, so I can't answer your questions. I'm sure he has an opinion about each of those and if he does not he would research that and form an opinion quickly. Corey is not a great alderman at all, glad we agree on that, I just do not believe Papas is as clueless as you think he is. And to throw fuel to the fire. Dan is a cranky old man and his sons are what some would call douches. One is comparable to the gay brother from Wedding Crashers and the other is your typical Ole Miss jackass.
 

vorticityDawg

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I have no problem with a mayor keeping his/her original job. I do have a some concerns if that job involves real estate development simply because the results of those developments usually have very long-lasting effects (whether positive or negative). Look at the eyesore around Cowbells, look at the eyesore that is HWY 12, look at the eyesore that is the apartments off Stark Rd. These are huge problems in and around Starkville

Like I said above, this is not an anti-Dan post, as I think he has been extra cautious about political matters that might relate to his developments. Nevertheless, it is a liability for him simply because many voters will always wonder if Dan is really in it to help the city or to help his business, and they wonder what he will do if the interest of the two every oppose each other.

Truthfully, the mayoral position is not all that important this election. None of the three real candidates are that great, and none are terrible. It is the alderman positions that are most important this time around. I hope you are thinking clearly on that one.