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WhiteBus

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rumor's floating around that Bon Jovi will be performing!
If Bon Jovi is playing than I'll sta
That's an easy one: kick the Middlesex County sheriffs out of the lots and stop harassing every youngish-looking tailgater with a beer or Solo cup in their hands. Otherwise, the students will keep coming over late from College Avenue.
Why are people so in favor of underage drinking?
 

mildone_rivals

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If that device is used on Politi, wouldn't it be pretty much be a circumcision?
 

AreYouNUTS

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Bon Jovi playing BEFORE a game? Maybe singing the National Anthem, I could see, but otherwise would be very difficult pull off I'd imagine.
 

KeithK7624

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If Bon Jovi is playing than I'll sta

Why are people so in favor of underage drinking?

How old were you when you had your first drink? The problem with underage drinking is that 21 is the legal age. I'm 30 but let's be real. If I can be tried as an adult I can have a damn drink. The drinking age of 21 is the reason Americans binge drink. No other country has the problem. I'll get off your grass now.
 

Jonb127

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The student sections consists of ALL sections from 132-142 (only the corner section, on either side, are NOT "student" seating). It most was not 80-90% full at KO.

7 minutes prior to KO the 3 main student sections including the area behind the recruiting lounge were 95% full with a little spill over starting into the other sections. I would think that would be a lot more that 50% but I'm not sure what those other sections consist of so maybe not.
 

RUTrack94

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Wolves of Wall Street?
Legrand leading out the team?
Bon Jovi singing?
Fridge on the sidelines?
Chris Lloyd and Back to the future live?
New song out of the tunnel?
Million dollar KO challenge?
 

DHajekRC84

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If they really want people there then they should just tell everyone what it is...if it is that good let it out and guarantee the place fill.

Wouldn't be the first time RU did something like this only to have 75% of the folks say..WTF..really? THAT was it?
 

AreYouNUTS

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7 minutes prior to KO the 3 main student sections including the area behind the recruiting lounge were 95% full with a little spill over starting into the other sections. I would think that would be a lot more that 50% but I'm not sure what those other sections consist of so maybe not.

Listen I'm not putting our students down - at all - so relax. That being said, when the cameras came on - 8:00PM, not 8:07, or 8:13 for KO - the student section was about 50% full when you take into account the entirety of it instead of just picking out sections. Trust me, I GET IT, it's not easy to get 10,000 kids into the stadium, 75% of whom likely come via bus, all in a short period of time, when taking into account the busing situation. Heck, I'm the guy who starts threads, every Saturday, pointing out student sections at football "factories" that are half-empty mid 1st quarter lol! All good my man!
 

RU4Real

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Bon Jovi playing BEFORE a game? Maybe singing the National Anthem, I could see, but otherwise would be very difficult pull off I'd imagine.

Explanation #1:

It's not "difficult to pull off", as the NFL does it all the time. It requires a pre-assembled, movable stage and pre-wiring and testing of all the sound equipment. With respect to it being done at, say, Super Bowl I can tell you (because I managed the effort on a couple occasions) that pre-game performance takes about a week's worth of practice to really nail down.

So... no. Bon Jovi is not playing before the game on Saturday.

Explanation #2:

@RutgersROB is partially correct. What he didn't say is that Bon Jovi has since been kidnapped by mysterious men in unmarked white vans, loaded onto a plane built entirely of thermite and piloted by space aliens and is being held hostage by Dick Cheney.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Explanation #1:

It's not "difficult to pull off", as the NFL does it all the time. It requires a pre-assembled, movable stage and pre-wiring and testing of all the sound equipment. With respect to it being done at, say, Super Bowl I can tell you (because I managed the effort on a couple occasions) that pre-game performance takes about a week's worth of practice to really nail down.

So... no. Bon Jovi is not playing before the game on Saturday.

Explanation #2:

@RutgersROB is partially correct. What he didn't say is that Bon Jovi has since been kidnapped by mysterious men in unmarked white vans, loaded onto a plane built entirely of thermite and piloted by space aliens and is being held hostage by Dick Cheney.

Yeah, uhm, I should/could have been a bit more clear when I made that statement I guess. Big difference between the $$$ RU has to spend - or doesn't, lol - and what can be spent at an event such as the Super Bowl.
 

knightfan7

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How old were you when you had your first drink? The problem with underage drinking is that 21 is the legal age. I'm 30 but let's be real. If I can be tried as an adult I can have a damn drink. The drinking age of 21 is the reason Americans binge drink. No other country has the problem. I'll get off your grass now.

Funny how Bus and I, two people who would profit more than most by lowering the age aren't sold on the idea.
 
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WhiteBus

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How old were you when you had your first drink? The problem with underage drinking is that 21 is the legal age. I'm 30 but let's be real. If I can be tried as an adult I can have a damn drink. The drinking age of 21 is the reason Americans binge drink. No other country has the problem. I'll get off your grass now.
17 when the drinking age was 18. But what is your point? They checked people back than too. The reason the drinking age didn't stay at 18 was obvious. Kids were killing themselves and others at an alarming rate.
Your 21. Go for it. You're a freshman at RU stay away. Besides the problems at tailgates got worse every year. People coming into my tailgate and stealing during my last year's in the Blue Lot. It got real bad a few years back. Real bad.
I don't like the sheriffs riding into tailgates but have no problem with them cracking down on the abundance of underage drinking in the lots. None of those drunks were going into the game anyway.
 

DHajekRC84

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17 when the drinking age was 18. But what is your point? They checked people back than too. The reason the drinking age didn't stay at 18 was obvious. Kids were killing themselves and others at an alarming rate.
Your 21. Go for it. You're a freshman at RU stay away. Besides the problems at tailgates got worse every year. People coming into my tailgate and stealing during my last year's in the Blue Lot. It got real bad a few years back. Real bad.
I don't like the sheriffs riding into tailgates but have no problem with them cracking down on the abundance of underage drinking in the lots. None of those drunks were going into the game anyway.

I was the first in my class to go legal back in 1977 and was bar tending as a senior in high school Oct of that year. So I feel for these younger folks. I here what you are saying and I hear what 7624 is saying. Perhaps the answer is to crack down on the one's being jerks and bothering folks like you and leave the others alone if not being an issue? Doesn't have to be a 1 size fits all here..

I walked past the Blue lot too many times thinking it was WAY out of control...but I believe there is some compromise somewhere. (maybe)
 

Jonb127

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Listen I'm not putting our students down - at all - so relax. That being said, when the cameras came on - 8:00PM, not 8:07, or 8:13 for KO - the student section was about 50% full when you take into account the entirety of it instead of just picking out sections. Trust me, I GET IT, it's not easy to get 10,000 kids into the stadium, 75% of whom likely come via bus, all in a short period of time, when taking into account the busing situation. Heck, I'm the guy who starts threads, every Saturday, pointing out student sections at football "factories" that are half-empty mid 1st quarter lol! All good my man!

Fair enough. I was just trying to explain the pic I can't post. I thought it was a good turn out at the time which is why I took it to text it to someone who couldn't make it.
 
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WhiteBus

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I was the first in my class to go legal back in 1977 and was bar tending as a senior in high school Oct of that year. So I feel for these younger folks. I here what you are saying and I hear what 7624 is saying. Perhaps the answer is to crack down on the one's being jerks and bothering folks like you and leave the others alone if not being an issue? Doesn't have to be a 1 size fits all here..
I think they are doing a better job this year just targeting underage drinking and having a presence. Sadly we live in a post 9-11 world so having them there in numbers doesn't bother me. I walk from lot to lot with beers and cigars. Of course they don't bother me and some actually bring treats for the dog. Some are over zealous but people like MrsScrew have taken action and they have been improved so far this season
 

DHajekRC84

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Fair enough. I was just trying to explain the pic I can't post. I thought it was a good turn out at the time which is why I took it to text it to someone who couldn't make it.
you both right. The main sections that normally would form the R and U were completely full, The expanded side sections were not at all at first but did fill in.
 

RUnTeX

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If that device is used on Politi, wouldn't it be pretty much be a circumcision?

If Politi's wearing a hoodie and only the hood rips off but his "head" somehow remains in tact, then yes. But maybe Lorena Bobbitt is the device operator and lops off everything.
 

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If Bon Jovi is playing than I'll sta

Why are people so in favor of underage drinking?

The legal minimum age for drinking in this country is ridiculous and frankly laughable. I'm in favor of exercising common sense in lowering the drinking age to 18, for several reasons. The status quo criminalizes the actions of millions of college students per year and encourages treating alcohol as a taboo to be dangerously gluttonized behind the scenes illegally, and/or in public once of legal age. It was and still is entirely possible to teach moderate and social drinking with a strong emphasis on personal responsibility at a younger age. But some think that this country doesn't seem to be capable of that anymore.

You yourself stated that you don't mind the crackdown on all students drinking in the lots, regardless of the level of trouble the individuals are (or many times are not at all) causing. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, although it's funny that you began drinking at 18 and obviously aren't given a second look by police now. But be prepared to accept a late arriving and sometimes reduced student section to HPSS as a result. The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
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WhiteBus

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The legal minimum age for drinking in this country is ridiculous and frankly laughable. I'm in favor of exercising common sense in lowering the drinking age to 18, for several reasons. The status quo criminalizes the actions of millions of college students per year and encourages treating alcohol as a taboo to be dangerously gluttonized behind the scenes illegally, and/or in public once of legal age. It was and still is entirely possible to teach moderate and social drinking with a strong emphasis on personal responsibility at a younger age. But some think that this country doesn't seem to be capable of that anymore.

You yourself stated that you don't mind the crackdown on all students drinking in the lots, regardless of the level of trouble the individuals are (or many times are not at all) causing. You're certainly entitled to your opinion, although it's funny that you began drinking at 18 and obviously aren't given a second look by police now. But be prepared to accept a late arriving and sometimes reduced student section to HPSS as a result. The two are not mutually exclusive.
You must have missed or didn't comprehend what I wrote above. The problem young drunks in the past never made it to the game. By kickoff they were puking, passed out or were stealing food and beers from other tailgates. Rutgers Football never got support from that crowd.
 
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I was in HS and college when the drinking age was 18. I did not drink and drive, but knew many who did. Teenagers don't usually make the best decisions.

Binge drinking is a problem on campuses all over the country, and needed to be addressed, and still needs to be addressed. I have no issue with the drinking age being 21. I don't think it is really impacting the 18-20 year old age group lives that much and have been told this by people in that age bracket.
 

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You must have missed or didn't comprehend what I wrote above. The problem young drunks in the past never made it to the game. By kickoff they were puking, passed out or were stealing food and beers from other tailgates. Rutgers Football never got support from that crowd.

I comprehended it just fine, and am in favor of drunk, puking, and theiving jerks being ticketed and thrown out of the tailgating lots and stadium regardless of age.

However, believe it or not there are also thousands of student and young alumni Rutgers fans who like to have a few drinks, party with their friends, and play some pong/flip cup before the game without committing the above offenses or being disruptive to fellow tailgates around them. They most certainly make the effort to come to games after pregaming on College Ave or elsewhere now, but many end up getting to the stadium late. That's the whole point of this thread.
 

greenknight

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Kids can't drive at 18 yet alone drink and drive at 18 Stupid argument that was had when I was 18. Drinking age is right where it needs to be. An 18 yr old is not mature enough to drink sorry guys!!
 

NBKnight

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How old were you when you had your first drink? The problem with underage drinking is that 21 is the legal age. I'm 30 but let's be real. If I can be tried as an adult I can have a damn drink. The drinking age of 21 is the reason Americans binge drink. No other country has the problem. I'll get off your grass now.

18 was the drinking age when I was high school, DUI deaths were very high.
 
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RUsSKii

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I was in HS and college when the drinking age was 18. I did not drink and drive, but knew many who did. Teenagers don't usually make the best decisions.

Binge drinking is a problem on campuses all over the country, and needed to be addressed, and still needs to be addressed. I have no issue with the drinking age being 21. I don't think it is really impacting the 18-20 year old age group lives that much and have been told this by people in that age bracket.

It doesn't bother those in that age bracket and didn't bother most of us when in college because we found ways to drink alcohol anyways and widely flouted the law. When you prohibit drinking to the majority of college students, then there's no way for them to learn how to do so responsibly and binge drinking results when they do so anyways.

Do speed limits on most highways bother you? I suspect not, until you get stopped for exceeding the posted limit and ticketed by a cop waiting in a speed trap..
 

bethlehemfan

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Does the drinking age stop college kids from drinking? Not in my experience. If it stops a good number that's great but I would think the majority that don't drink now would be the same not drinking with the age reduced. Is there a youth drinking epidemic bringing down Canada?
 

WhiteBus

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An 18 year old is not mature enough to drink but you are ok with him having access to an M16, shoulder held rockets, and grenades in a populated war zone and have at ......
As long as they are sober. And taking commands from people in charge.
 

RU4Real

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An 18 year old is not mature enough to drink but you are ok with him having access to an M16, shoulder held rockets, and grenades in a populated war zone and have at ......

If you want to spend a million dollars and the better part of half a year (minimum) training 18 year-olds to drink, then I'll concede your point.
 

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7 minutes prior to KO the 3 main student sections including the area behind the recruiting lounge were 95% full with a little spill over starting into the other sections. I would think that would be a lot more that 50% but I'm not sure what those other sections consist of so maybe not.
All the students pack into the sections right behind the goal posts. Leaving seats open on the sides.
 

ArminRU

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If our gov was smart they would drastically lower or erase the drinking age like in Europe and educate instead.
 

mildone_rivals

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If Politi's wearing a hoodie and only the hood rips off but his "head" somehow remains in tact, then yes. But maybe Lorena Bobbitt is the device operator and lops off everything.
Okay, sure, I might have stretched the analogy a bit.
 

bac2therac

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it cant be Bon Jovi because we were told students don't like old people music