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I just assume any Gunther hate is a generational fan thing. He would be successful in any era and he's what, like an 8.5/10 on the mic and a 9/10 in ring? Who in their right mind wouldn't want that on their roster or wouldn't push that?
Anyone who shoot hates Gunther is someone that should be ignored
 

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TNA has always been the scrap heap or mining undiscovered young talent - it’s been like that for 25 years. That’s how AJ and Samoa Joe became relevant.
Don’t ever compare guys like Brock Anderson and the Righteous to AJ Styles and Samoa Joe

Also, today I read a good comparison for the Righteous - they are the Tent Revival version of the Wyatt Family lol.
 
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Don’t ever compare guys like Brock Anderson and the Righteous to AJ Styles and Samoa Joe

Also, today I read a good comparison for the Righteous - they are the Tent Revival version of the Wyatt Family lol.
I don’t hate the righteous, but that is a good line right there.
 

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Everybody thought it was going to be Ricky/cody but it’s gonna be Oba/Cody - should be very interesting.
 

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WWE already forgot they have a 'Legend Killer' in Randy Orton. He should have been the one to retire Goldberg and John Cena. Not Gunther's sorry *** FFS!
 

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lol given who is making this statement

but is that true about the babyfaces not asking any questions and stuff at Raw?

 

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Gunther came out with the same tired *** promos 'I'm gonna bully you push you around, and break your spirit.
Sleepy GIF

 
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Would have been a perfect time to had Ricky Saints in the Last Time Is Now tournament and put over the next big star in the company. He has nothing left to prove in NXT.
 

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Would have been a perfect time to had Ricky Saints in the Last Time Is Now tournament and put over the next big star in the company. He has nothing left to prove in NXT.
Might end up being nothing but said a lot to me, given the history/relationship with Cody, that they made Ricky lose the NXT title and thus the match w/ Cody at SNME. Given how few matches WWE likes to book, chances are he might not even be on the card at all now.
 

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Fightful story today says the WWE library will continue to just be uploaded on YouTube when the Peacock deal ends. Basically no one has offered a deal that makes any sense for it.
 

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Why was Gunther cutting an AEW promo?


 

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Dynamite for this evening...

AEW Champion Samoa Joe vs. Eddie Kingston.
Continental Classic: Jack Perry (replacing Darby Allin, who is hurt) vs. Kazuchika Okada.
Continental Classic: Speedball Mike Bailey vs. Kyle Fletcher.
Tournament Final to Crown first-ever AEW Women's Tag Team Champions: Toni Storm & Mira Shirakawa vs. Willow Nightingale & Harley Cameron.
Tornado Tag Team Match: Swerve Strickland and Hangman Page vs. Powerhouse Hobbs and Katsuyori Shibata.
 

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Dynamite for this evening...

AEW Champion Samoa Joe vs. Eddie Kingston.
Continental Classic: Jack Perry (replacing Darby Allin, who is hurt) vs. Kazuchika Okada.
Continental Classic: Speedball Mike Bailey vs. Kyle Fletcher.
Tournament Final to Crown first-ever AEW Women's Tag Team Champions: Toni Storm & Mira Shirakawa vs. Willow Nightingale & Harley Cameron.
Tornado Tag Team Match: Swerve Strickland and Hangman Page vs. Powerhouse Hobbs and Katsuyori Shibata.
Surprised they didn't schedule Kevin Knight for a match tonight. He's from Atlanta and the show is in College Park, GA, which is only 10.6 miles from Atlanta.
 

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I'm as big a "hater" of watching Jey Uso wrestle as anyone, but I may dislike watching Kingston even more. I don't understand how anyone can be a fan of whatever it is he does in the ring. Great on the mic, but even that can't make up for how bad he is inside the ropes.
 

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I'm as big a "hater" of watching Jey Uso wrestle as anyone, but I may dislike watching Kingston even more. I don't understand how anyone can be a fan of whatever it is he does in the ring. Great on the mic, but even that can't make up for how bad he is inside the ropes.
Looks like USO’s are a tag team again
 

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Looks like USO’s are a tag team again
Better than trying to make them solo stars, but I don’t like watching them as a TT either. Just not a Fan.

Speaking of TTs, if WWE is simply going to make Drew eat pins in title matches, they should just put he and Sheamus together and let them wreak havoc over the tag team division while holding the belts for a while. Better use of Drew than what they are doing with him currently.
 

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Further proof WWE has lost touch with their fans. Continuously book a fan favorite like a jabroni and fans are going to get outraged by it at some point. It’s incompetence to be confused by that.

 

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I’ve been super under the weather the last couple of weeks so I’ve missed a lot of stuff, but man, Kyle fletcher and Speedball Bailey was a great match last night. I basically thought the whole show was pretty darn good overall.
 
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I’ve been super under the weather the last couple of weeks so I’ve missed a lot of stuff, but man, Kyle fletcher and Speedball Bailey was a great match last night. I basically thought the whole show was pretty darn good overall.
They had me yelling at the tv like an NBA playoff game going down to the wire and the two teams just making unbelievable shots left and right in the clutch.

Very rare I react like that to a match, I don’t even need a whole hand to count how many times it has happened this year.
 
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Read that SRS said Cena is going on last on Saturday, even though Cena supposedly preferred to open the show. Is there a chance the WWE has a little cenawinzlol and sends th crowd home happy?
 

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Better than trying to make them solo stars, but I don’t like watching them as a TT either. Just not a Fan.

Speaking of TTs, if WWE is simply going to make Drew eat pins in title matches, they should just put he and Sheamus together and let them wreak havoc over the tag team division while holding the belts for a while. Better use of Drew than what they are doing with him currently.
The Uso vs. Uso singles match the other year ago was what every uneducated description is of a Young Bucks match but actually true and amplified by a factor of 100
 

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Read that SRS said Cena is going on last on Saturday, even though Cena supposedly preferred to open the show. Is there a chance the WWE has a little cenawinzlol and sends th crowd home happy?
Having Cena open would be incredibly stupid. So many people would turn it off and not watch the hopeful future stars of the company in the NXT guys.

Wouldn’t surprise me if people left the arena after the match too because everyone knows Cena’s last match is THE reason why people bought a ticket. No one bought a ticket for literally anything else on the card unless their friends or family with someone else featured.
 
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No one gains or loses regardless of the result, which in itself tells us that having Gunther be the final opponent is stupid, so no point in having Cena lose. Just send the fans home happy, let Cena bask in the glory one last time, and at least finish off the retirement tour on a high note after screwing up so much about it.
 

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No one gains or loses regardless of the result, which in itself tells us that having Gunther be the final opponent is stupid, so no point in having Cena lose. Just send the fans home happy, let Cena bask in the glory one last time, and at least finish off the retirement tour on a high note after screwing up so much about it.
It’s tradition and that’s all that matters to me. You lose on your way out to put somebody over. Gunther don’t need it now, yea. Shawn Michaels didn’t need it either with Flair.

Ya just lose on your way out. How it is. Let him lose, let everyone boo Gunther a few minutes and him gloat, then let him leave and have Cena take his long standing ovation and final bows. Matter of fact I’d lose respect for Cena if he did it any other way. He should demand to lose. Just seems like that kinda guy.
 

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Call me crazy, but seems bad that the woman overseeing the educational system of all children in the US - Linda McMahon - is said by a federal judge to plausibly have had relevant knowledge and plausibly could have stopped children being sexually assaulted under her watch.

 

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Call me crazy, but seems bad that the woman overseeing the educational system of all children in the US - Linda McMahon - is said by a federal judge to plausibly have had relevant knowledge and plausibly could have stopped children being sexually assaulted under her watch.

I don’t think anybody really cares in real life, honestly
 
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It’s tradition and that’s all that matters to me. You lose on your way out to put somebody over. Gunther don’t need it now, yea. Shawn Michaels didn’t need it either with Flair.

Ya just lose on your way out. How it is. Let him lose, let everyone boo Gunther a few minutes and him gloat, then let him leave and have Cena take his long standing ovation and final bows. Matter of fact I’d lose respect for Cena if he did it any other way. He should demand to lose. Just seems like that kinda guy.
Lots of things used to be tradition. Just because something is tradition doesn’t mean it needs to always be tradition.

The whole reason it’s tradition to lose on the way out is because the tradition has been having someone who could use the rub getting the win to advance their career.

Typically that is someone on the younger end of the spectrum who is a budding star or someone who just needs that one signature moment/win to get to that top level.

*Insert multi paragraph rant on how the aging WWE roster is being selfish and holding back young talent like how the aging wrestlers in WCW did because all WWE cares about are the short term profits*

When you don’t fulfill that part of the tradition then what’s the point of continuing with the rest of it?

Like when Sting retired for good. It’s a bit different because he got to pick who he wanted to wrestle in his retirement match and he had an undefeated AEW record, but what good reason beyond tradition (which I’d argue isn’t a good reason) would there have been in having him lose?
 
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