Clark

[jklings99]

5 games in and he’s had 1 decent game. I know the transition could be difficult but I expected a major difference in his game especially considering we played 5 awful teams.

He got 700K??? Give his money to Simpkins next year

 

[HallGuy2323]

5 games in and he’s had 1 decent game. I know the transition could be difficult but I expected a major difference in his game especially considering we played 5 awful teams.

He got 700K??? Give his money to Simpkins next year

0 points and 4 turnovers in the 1st half against a D-2 program. He looks lost and unsure out there

 

[jklings99]

I’d have a much easier time giving him a free pass if we were playing tougher comp. But he’s looked bad against low level maac teams

 

[The_Hall]

he can't beat his man or breakdown the defense . idk if it's by design

 

[jklings99]

I don’t even think it’s coaching. Looks physical and mental

 

[johns79]

Didn't seem into it.

 

[Piratz]

Struggled. One game at a time.

 

[jklings99]

When he’s struggled 4 out of 5 games, it’s time to have a talk with your stat pg who is making the most $

 

[MichiganStoleTitle]

0 points and 4 turnovers in the 1st half against a D-2 program. He looks lost and unsure out there

It’s a Division I school.

 

[Left Coast Pirates]

It’s a Division I school.

They just moved up from D2 this year. They are currently Ken Pom 359 out of 365 teams.

let’s not split hairs. This was not a team he should have struggled against.

 

[HallGuy2323]

It’s a Division I school.

I know that. First year. therefore in my mind they’re still a D-2 program for a few years until they get fully situated

 

[Fishjam]

The kid is thinking on the court instead of reacting and playing with conviction.You can see the doubt clouding his judgment instead of playing fast and using his instincts. He's having difficulty with so much traffic packing the lane. He made a few good reads to set up open 3s for us but too often he dribbled straight into traffic and lost control.

He's still looking to Sha for play calls. He's hesitant to shoot open 3s when they sag off him and when he penetrates he gets caught in between when to drive to the basket and when to shoot his pull up jumper.

Its definitely concerning that he's struggling against poor competition that he torched in 2 years at Merrimack. But it leads me to believe it's not physical or a matter of him not being able to compete at this level.

Different situations but Kadary struggled at the beginning of his first year with Sha also. And Dawes was so bad at the start of his senior year, everyone was calling for him to be benched. I say this just to illustrate that playmakers have struggled at the start of the season before. Could it be a result of Sha not focusing on team offense enough leading up to the season?

Whatever it is, we need Clark to figure things out and play better to compete with high-major competition. For now, Im remaining patient.

 

[MBF68]

It’s a Division I school.

Sorta....

 

[TheHall87]

They just moved up from D2 this year. They are currently Ken Pom 359 out of 365 teams.

let’s not split hairs. This was not a team he should have struggled against.

If we're being honest, he shouldn't have struggled against any of our opponents so far. Watching on Tuesday night, I thought he looked awful. It's easier to chalk it up to a bad night if he's playing better.

Even with him not playing very well, we at least look like a competent offensive team. The ball has moved much better and we're getting good shots even if we're not always knocking them down.

At some point, he'll make a few plays and then we'll start to see the player we thought we were getting.

 

[shu67]

The good news is that even though he did not play well we still won by 23. So that is a positive take away. Our star point guard can have a bad game and we still win bigly. Something the team can learn from! The other guys stepped up.

 

[Seton75]

The good news is that even though he did not play well we still won by 23. So that is a positive take away. Our star point guard can have a bad game and we still win bigly. Something the team can learn from! The other guys stepped up.

And imo, the team looked fine without him on the floor. But I didnt like Budd's play last night and I am a little nervous. While he dominated Harper in the RU game last yr, he hasnt dominated anyone yet. And Hines was also off, while Payne played well. I complained yesterday how we dont work it to the bigs enough and they arent found off penetration. And last night, a guard (not Budd) drives and hits Payne with a pass at the bucket that Payne guides in, while Hines looks lost on offense too often, like he is hiding on the weak side.

And from my eyes, these are the two guys who are paying most attn to Sha barking at them from the sidelines.

This being said, I still think we are gonna see improved play from both vs NC St.. I think talent is gonna find its way.

 

[ivyhillpark63]

Hes playing nervous for some reason it looks like to me.
Maybe trying to much to live up to his contract .

 

[NYC Pirate]

Not as concerned about Clarke as much as most on the board. He looks to be out of sync for sure. His bad is not that bad for me. The ball moves and he finds players for quality shots. Remember how stagnant the offense was with Wusu at the helm. His real tests are coming though. How will he handle intense ball pressure? That will be key. He does need to elevate his focus. Also, my gut says when the crowds get bigger and the atmosphere changes at The Rock we will see a more dynamic player. So, he needs to cut down on unforced turnovers, be steady at the line and be somewhat of a threat from three. I think we should defer to Sha's confidence in bringing this particular player to SHU.

 

[SHUSource]

Not as concerned about Clarke as much as most on the board. He looks to be out of sync for sure. His bad is not that bad for me. The ball moves and he finds players for quality shots. Remember how stagnant the offense was with Wusu at the helm. His real tests are coming though. How will he handle intense ball pressure? That will be key. He does need to elevate his focus. Also, my gut says when the crowds get bigger and the atmosphere changes at The Rock we will see a more dynamic player. So, he needs to cut down on unforced turnovers, be steady at the line and be somewhat of a threat from three. I think we should defer to Sha's confidence in bringing this particular player to SHU.

I've only seen about half the action this year, so take it for what it's worth, but this is the way it strikes me, too -- particularly about the ball movement.

 

[Bud Boomer]

I said the same on the trove, but I don’t see any issue with Budd’s ability. He’s a HM player for sure. He’s struggling with confidence. One or two good games (and they’re coming) and I think it’ll be wheels up for him.

 

[hallwins]

And imo, the team looked fine without him on the floor. But I didnt like Budd's play last night and I am a little nervous. While he dominated Harper in the RU game last yr, he hasnt dominated anyone yet. And Hines was also off, while Payne played well. I complained yesterday how we dont work it to the bigs enough and they arent found off penetration. And last night, a guard (not Budd) drives and hits Payne with a pass at the bucket that Payne guides in, while Hines looks lost on offense too often, like he is hiding on the weak side.

And from my eyes, these are the two guys who are paying most attn to Sha barking at them from the sidelines.

This being said, I still think we are gonna see improved play from both vs NC St.. I think talent is gonna find its way.

17 assists for the team

For all his uneven play, Clark still had 5
Parker had 3
Williams had 3
Hines had 2

If we keep the ball popping and continue to force turnovers, it can make up for alot of deficiencies.

 

[JTSHU]

As long as he keeps getting in lanes, moving the defense and finding guys open hell be very effective. He does seem to move a bit too fast and losing control. Hell prob be fine overall

 

[shu67]

He was 1-7 from the field and had more turnovers than assists 6 turnovers to 5 assists. Not good stats for a star point guard. Let's hope this was an aberration and better days are ahead for him. We need him to play very well for this team to get some W's down the road.

 

[Seton75]

17 assists for the team

For all his uneven play, Clark still had 5
Parker had 3
Williams had 3
Hines had 2

If we keep the ball popping and continue to force turnovers, it can make up for alot of deficiencies.

I am on Budd's side, but he didnt play well last night. And in the first half, he had 4 early assists (I bet they were off made threes cause we shot great in the early game and I was surprised when I looked at the scoreboard and saw he had 4 assist, not were memorable to me) and also 4 TOs, three bad ones when he lost his dribble.

I blame the basic blah offensive patterns and Sha calling to him from the sideline as much as anything. But it was not a game Budd wants to revisit I am sure.

If we play like we did in the 2nd half against anyone any good they will outscore us by 15.

 

[TheHall87]

I am on Budd's side, but he didnt play well last night. And in the first half, he had 4 early assists (I bet they were off made threes cause we shot great in the early game and I was surprised when I looked at the scoreboard and saw he had 4 assist, not were memorable to me) and also 4 TOs, three bad ones when he lost his dribble.

I blame the basic blah offensive patterns and Sha calling to him from the sideline as much as anything. But it was not a game Budd wants to revisit I am sure.

If we play like we did in the 2nd half against anyone any good they will outscore us by 15.

One was a lob to Payne that he guided into the basket. I believe the other three were on three-point shots.

 

[Seton75]

One was a lob to Payne that he guided into the basket. I believe the other three were on three-point shots.

The lob to Payne was a beautful play.

 

[IronKaz1]

the weird thing is Budd played vs these types of teams last year in his conference so he should produce vs that talent

 

[shupat08]

The lob to Payne was a beautful play.

Simpkins also had a very nice lob to Payne I think

 

[The_Hall]

As long as he keeps getting in lanes, moving the defense and finding guys open hell be very effective. He does seem to move a bit too fast and losing control. Hell prob be fine overall

but he's not getting in the lane and moving the defense

 

[TheHall87]

but he's not getting in the lane and moving the defense

He's been doing enough to create open shots for Simpkins, Williams and Staton-McCray.

 

[Bluebeard]

Holloway was quoted after game 3 I believe he wanted Clark to play more aggressive on both sides of the ball. I think he's pushing and trying things knowing he can " get away with it" against these teams. Knowing it shouldn't affect the outcome. Some of his attempts to drive were lightening quick, where he lost the ball, but regained it. He could have had 6-8 TO in the first half instead of four. Most of his TO weren't because of good D but rather him making the mistakes. I expect a much better play in Maui.

 

[JTSHU]

but he's not getting in the lane and moving the defense

Yes he is. Hes had some fumbles but his speed gets him in the lane, defense moves and hes got good vision. The shooting has to improve and the fumbling as well

 

[Halldan]

but he's not getting in the lane and moving the defense

Actually he is getting into the lane and that's the problem. He penetrating too deep and that's taking away his options and allowing double teams and thus turnovers.

 

[donnie-baseball]

Clark is the least of my worries, considering his history, including playing very well against high majors while at Merrimack. Give it time.

 

[Merge]

Actually he is getting into the lane and that's the problem. He penetrating too deep and that's taking away his options and allowing double teams and thus turnovers.

That seems right. Maybe trying to focus too much on creating for others.
Didn't have a single game last year with less than 10 shots so is certainly adapting to involving his team more. Plays in control most of the time so I think he'll be ok as the season progresses.

 

[Piratz]

It’s been rough overall for Clark. You’d like to see more than a 92 ORTG, 25% TO rate, 65% FT rate against the weakest 5-game stretch we may ever play.

He’s getting into the lane - something we never did last year - but without a plan. Not sure what’s going on there.

 

[JTSHU]

Hes gotta pullup, floater or find the open guy. Hes not finishing over BE bigs

 

[Bud Boomer]

I said the same on the trove, but I don’t see any issue with Budd’s ability. He’s a HM player for sure. He’s struggling with confidence. One or two good games (and they’re coming) and I think it’ll be wheels up for him.

Wheels up