Class 1 All State Team

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OFFENSIVE UNIT – FIRST TEAM ALL-STATE

POSITION FIRST NAME LAST NAME SCHOOL YEAR

Quarterback Wyatt Freeman Narrows Sr

Center Gage Maxfield Riverheads Jr

O. Lineman Syncere Gray Essex Sr

O. Lineman Collin Armstrong Riverheads So

O. Lineman Lee Peoples Galax Jr

O. Lineman Tristan Justus Grundy Sr

Running Back Kevin Dameron Essex Sr

Running Back Zac Smiley Riverheads So

Running Back Greg Sanchez Chilhowie Sr

Receiver Delvin Palmer Northumberland Sr

Receiver Nikia Peerman William Campbell Sr

Receiver Derrick Allen J. I. Burton Sr

Tight End Cameron Lee Riverheads Sr

Kicker Peyton Skillman Riverheads Jr.

Kick Returner Ethan Guerrero Holston Sr

O. All-Purpose Zach Cale Chilhowie Sr



2018 CLASS 1 ALL-STATE FOOTBALL TEAM

DEFENSIVE UNIT – FIRST TEAM ALL-STATE

POSITION FIRST NAME LAST NAME SCHOOL YEAR

D. Lineman Rasheed Ellis Essex Sr

D. Lineman Brian Hostetler Riverheads Sr

D. Lineman Ben Sowers Rural Retreat Sr

Defensive End Forrest Shuey Riverheads Sr

Defensive End Trevor Williams Chilhowie Sr

Linebacker Juhan Carr Franklin Sr

Linebacker Justin McWorter Riverheads Sr

Linebacker Logan Branson Chilhowie Sr

Linebacker Mikey Culbertson J. I. Burton Jr.

Defensive Back Delvin Palmer Northumberland Sr

Defensive Back Blake Smith Riverheads Sr

Defensive Back Chase Blaker Narrows Jr

Defensive Back Chandler Hubbard Honaker Jr

Punter Leo Ezzell Holston Sr

Punt Returner Greg Sanchez Chilhowie Sr

D. All-Purpose Jason Amaro Chilhowie Sr



FIRST NAME LAST NAME SCHOOL YEAR

Offensive POY Greg Sanchez Chilhowie Sr

Defensive POY Blake Smith Riverheads Sr

Coach of the Year Robert Casto Riverheads

2018 CLASS 1 ALL-STATE FOOTBALL TEAM

OFFENSIVE UNIT – SECOND TEAM ALL-STATE

POSITION FIRST NAME LAST NAME SCHOOL YEAR

Quarterback Jordan Rasnick Eastside Sr

Center Blaze Hughes Chilhowie Sr

O. Lineman A’Breon Warren Franklin Sr

O. Lineman Jake Greer Riverheads Sr

O. Lineman Kolby Jackson Patrick Henry (GS) Sr

O. Lineman Daniel Boardwine Chilhowie Sr

Running Back Marcellius Dawson Parry McCluer Sr

Running Back Gabe Fiser Grundy Sr

Running Back Zack Brown Patrick Henry (GS) Jr

Receiver Drelyn Ford Franklin Sr

Receiver Jaden Gilbert Altavista Sr

Receiver Chase Blaker Narrows Jr

Tight End Cade Ashworth Galax Sr

Kicker Daniel Hutton Chilhowie Fr

Kick Returner Kahorie Batton Surry Jr

O. All-Purpose Caxton Vaught Galax Sr



DEFENSIVE UNIT – SECOND TEAM ALL-STATE

POSITION FIRST NAME LAST NAME SCHOOL YEAR

D. Lineman Delonta’ Butler Rappahannock Jr

D. Lineman Deandre’ Walthal William Campbell Sr

D. Lineman Alex Adams Chilhowie Sr

Defensive End Zakeya Towne William Campbell So

Defensive End Isaac Hawks Galax Jr

Linebacker Cole Setliff Colonial Beach Sr

Linebacker Jaden Phillips Riverheads Sr

Linebacker Conner Call Bath County Jr

Linebacker Caleb England George Wythe Sr

Defensive Back Collin Saunders Northumberland Sr

Defensive Back Drew Bond Riverheads Sr

Defensive Back Jaun Miller Covington Sr

Defensive Back Blake Brown Galax Sr

Punter Blake McCourt Stonewall Jackson Sr

Punt Returner Savion Epps Rappahannock Sr

D. All-Purpose Corvian Davis Colonial Beach Jr
 

kwhs95fan

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Only reason I can think of is because he missed 4 or 5 games in the regular season. Definitely is an all state caliber player though
 
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I know a kid that made 107 total tackles including 97 solo, 8 sacks ,12 tackles for loss and didn't even make all region.
 
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RedPrideNation_RollPride

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The list does seem odd in spots. I wouldn’t argue with most myself although there are certainly more players deserving of recognition. The issue I think most people have with these awards are that it is not truly representative since some of the teams that may not have good records so a standout player on those teams gets overlooked. Not saying it’s right but just look at 2A with a single player being named OPY and DPOY. Not saying Allen wasn’t extremely good but I would guess there are some other players that could argue consideration for one or the other.

Neither here nor there since we can all argue for players we see regularly. I wish we could have some sort of fan vote for players at least at the local or region level. It could be weighted to honor the coaches heavily but at least some of the lesser talked about players would get a call out. Just my .02.
 

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Rapps QB deserved at least 2nd team but maybe they wanted upperclassmen since he is just a Sophmore

Next season he will be a dominant factor for sure!

I am guessing the 1st round loss hurt (still do not understand what happened in that massive loss) and not enough Region A knowledgeable people to vote for him.
 
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Rapps QB deserved at least 2nd team but maybe they wanted upperclassmen since he is just a Sophmore
He is good enough to be considered, i wouldn't be shocked if he gets POY next season. He should lead Rapp deep in playoffs next year.
 

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Only reason I can think of is because he missed 4 or 5 games in the regular season. Definitely is an all state caliber player though
# 44 Lawrence Porter had 1,254 yards in just 8 games and had a season average of 6 yards per carry and 157 yards per game. Most of those yards came against better schools or schools that made the playoffs. 2A Clarke County (155 yards), RHS (231 yards, 154 yards) and Northumberland (279 yards where he averaged 5.3 yards a carry on 53 carries). He missed easy yardage games against Rapp County, Middlesex and King & Queen due to the hamstring injury. That's easily 600+ yards left on the field against those teams. Arguably, he could have had a 2,000 yard season. But an injury is an injury and the season stats is what it is and the voters should not be expected to vote on what could have been.

I know Dameron and Zach Brown had better stats and deserved All-State. I don't know what stats the other RBs had who made All-State. But if they got their stats off a 11-12 games, then maybe yards per game and yards per carry should have been the apples to apples stats they used for selecting All-State instead of just total yards. 1,500 yards in a 12 game season isn't that impressive if the RB got his yards off a bunch of carries and only averaged 4 yards per carry. Like others have said, the team's record or how deep they go should not be the only factor.
 

RedPrideNation_RollPride

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After looking at this thing some more, it is not odd, it’s a travesty. There is nobody drawing breath going to tell me that region D deserved 20 spots between 1st and 2nd team. Chilhowie has 10 of those spots deservedly. Not talking but so much trash but this says that there are 10 other all state players in the region we all consider to be behind the pack except for CHS. What are we all missing. Region A only had 11 overall and I would bet even money a team of “all-state” players from that region would win in a matchup against region D minus the Warriors.

Oh well as I said earlier, we have no voice in these post season accolades. Funny thing is there was someone on the SWVA board pissed that Fiser didn’t get first team at RB. I am not saying that he doesn’t deserve a look but who are you taking off the current list? Those three were pretty damn good. Where is the sanity check for stuff like this?

My soapbox is wobbly again so I will step back down.

#RollPride

PS. I had to edit due to some calculation errors, lol.
 
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If a player missed games or season ended early it hurt them but to sum this up whichever region had the most representative are gonna get the most votes its not a conspiracy not alot of people showed up from region A
 
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But if drelyn ford season wouldn't ended so soon he would've been first team but he is ok with the outcome he got what he wanted
 

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1B All State should consist of nothing but RED . The rest should get the pine award ! lol
 

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After looking at this thing some more, it is not odd, it’s a travesty. There is nobody drawing breath going to tell me that region D deserved 20 spots between 1st and 2nd team. Chilhowie has 10 of those spots deservedly. Not talking but so much trash but this says that there are 10 other all state players in the region we all consider to be behind the pack except for CHS. What are we all missing. Region A only had 11 overall and I would bet even money a team of “all-state” players from that region would win in a matchup against region D minus the Warriors.

Oh well as I said earlier, we have no voice in these post season accolades. Funny thing is there was someone on the SWVA board pissed that Fiser didn’t get first team at RB. I am not saying that he doesn’t deserve a look but who are you taking off the current list? Those three were pretty damn good. Where is the sanity check for stuff like this?

My soapbox is wobbly again so I will step back down.

#RollPride

PS. I had to edit due to some calculation errors, lol.

Fiser finished the season with 2,497 yards and 47 td in 12 games.

I understand three guys that made first team ahead of him deserved it but it’s hard to argue that Fiser didn’t deserve 1st team too after a season like that.

But no matter how you spin it someone will always be left off
 
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RedPrideNation_RollPride

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Great season and that’s kind of my point too. What are the criteria or is all subjective? If so then the person that can lobby will always have more players whether they deserve it or not.
 
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Nobody is ever happy with these awards. Stats are also misleading. Playing in a weak district or region can inflate stats for some players. Politics also gets involved. One thing for sure, Moms and Dads will always complain whether their kid deserved it or not. Team wins is all that really matters. Those are the memories that last.
 
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MGF

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Nobody is ever happy with these awards. Stats are also misleading. Playing in a weak district or region can inflate stats for some players. Politics also gets involved. One thing for sure, Moms and Dads will always complain whether their kid deserved it or not. Team wins is all that really matters. Those are the memories that last.
Which I why I said the most yards #44 Porter from WPHS had were from the playoffs or against teams that made the playoffs. The slowest RB made 1st Team All-State and he was from Riverheads. His speed and agility was a sharp drop off to the others who made All-State and I can name a few who didn’t make it there were better RBs on film. Just goes to show that if you make the big dance, you’re almost guaranteed All-State. So how good your OL is a major factor as well.
 

offmylawn

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So I guess #44 had a bad O line? I'm glad to see you know all and have 40 times on all the backs. Like I said, Moms and Dads everywhere complain.
 

Gunz41!

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Doesn't matter to me one way or another if Riverheads kids make it or not, but exactly what does a kids speed have to do with being all state? It's for FOOTBALL, not track.

It's not all about stats. If it were, then why even have OL on an all state team? Most do look at stats, but you also have to factor in the system they are in. A team that is spread will usually have 1 back, so more touches, while a team running wing has 3 different backs. And there is also the fact that in a bunch of these games I know from reading that RHS went 6 backs deep.

Just look at one of the examples in this thread, 1 kid had 53 CARRIES, in ONE game. Of course that kid would put on more numbers than a kid who is splitting carries.

And you can use this in another position as well, and let's even remove it being about anyone's team on here. Look at the "numbers" a guy like Calvin Johnson put up at GT, as opposed to someone from a wide open offense. By the numbers, Calvin Johnson wasnt very good
 

RedPrideNation_RollPride

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Fiser finished the season with 2,497 yards and 47 td in 12 games.

I understand three guys that made first team ahead of him deserved it but it’s hard to argue that Fiser didn’t deserve 1st team too after a season like that.

But no matter how you spin it someone will always be left off
Just wanted to visit this one again. How many carries did Fiser have on the season? The stats say that he has had a great season and I commend him on that.

The reason I ask is that YPC should be considered along with a stat I know wont go over well, % of teams offense in yards or scores. If you have one player carrying the load AND the team advances then you would have to consider them. I am not real keen on rewarding the overuse and poor coaching of some of these coaches. I realize it is a player award but its hard for me to look at that kind of stuff. I suppose it shouldn't matter but so much what we think since we don't control any of it.
 
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So I guess #44 had a bad O line? I'm glad to see you know all and have 40 times on all the backs. Like I said, Moms and Dads everywhere complain.
Not what I said at all. I watched film on all of the All-State backs and Ray Charles can see the RHs back wasn’t even in the same league. He made it because his team won the state championship. Go watch film.
 

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Doesn't matter to me one way or another if Riverheads kids make it or not, but exactly what does a kids speed have to do with being all state? It's for FOOTBALL, not track.

It's not all about stats. If it were, then why even have OL on an all state team? Most do look at stats, but you also have to factor in the system they are in. A team that is spread will usually have 1 back, so more touches, while a team running wing has 3 different backs. And there is also the fact that in a bunch of these games I know from reading that RHS went 6 backs deep.

Just look at one of the examples in this thread, 1 kid had 53 CARRIES, in ONE game. Of course that kid would put on more numbers than a kid who is splitting carries.

And you can use this in another position as well, and let's even remove it being about anyone's team on here. Look at the "numbers" a guy like Calvin Johnson put up at GT, as opposed to someone from a wide open offense. By the numbers, Calvin Johnson wasnt very good
And as others have mentioned, when a RB averages 5 yards a carry carrying the ball 53 times in the mud against a round 2 team while playing all 4 quarters at MLB, you would think to see him make at least 2nd Team. How many that did make the list did that or could even do that?
 

MGF

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Just wanted to visit this one again. How many carries did Fiser have on the season? The stats say that he has had a great season and I commend him on that.

The reason I ask is that YPC should be considered along with a stat I know wont go over well, % of teams offense in yards or scores. If you have one player carrying the load AND the team advances then you would have to consider them. I am not real keen on rewarding the overuse and poor coaching of some of these coaches. I realize it is a player award but its hard for me to look at that kind of stuff. I suppose it shouldn't matter but so much what we think since we don't control any of it.
TDs are not always a good indicator because one or more RBs or receivers can get the team to the RZ and another RB can get the TD and vice verse. There are a lot of good points made by many here. So maybe season highlights should be considered? I thought watching season highlights of the backs that I did find season highlights on pretty much separated the wheat from the chaff.
 

Gunz41!

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And as others have mentioned, when a RB averages 5 yards a carry carrying the ball 53 times in the mud against a round 2 team while playing all 4 quarters at MLB, you would think to see him make at least 2nd Team. How many that did make the list did that or could even do that?

You didn't answer why you brought up speed?

And hmm, well even if I strongly dislike Riverheads, and it seems you are singling out the RHS player, well they played 8 2a teams, how many can say that? 8 playoff teams.

My disagreement isnt that your player shouldn't have made it. But you are downgrading another player to make your point, without looking at the full story.

If you look at one player and use 50+ carries and then not acknowledge that that gives an advantage on stats as compared to someone who is obviously splitting touches, then that isnt looking at the entire picture. If you want to look at YPC, cool, but you need to actually know the YPC of the one you want to compare to. And I certainly cant subscribe to the "highlight film" idea, as of course that will make anyone look great. But to even suggest that because a player also played another position should give him an edge, not for a single position, maybe as a cumulative award.

But since YOU brought it up about doing this or that against a 2nd round team etc. And mean no offense to any team, but what team did you play that was better than East Rockingham, Central Woodstock, Luray, Robert E Lee, Buffalo Gap?

My guess is that the best team your team played was either Clarke or Northumberland. Well let's use Clarke County. They lost to BG 32-21. That same BG was 4th in Shenandoah District.

But again, I have no issue with you thinking your guy should have made it. But I have a problem with disparaging a KID to try and make your point, and bringing up things that have nothing to do the discussion
 

RedPrideNation_RollPride

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Not what I said at all. I watched film on all of the All-State backs and Ray Charles can see the RHs back wasn’t even in the same league. He made it because his team won the state championship. Go watch film.
It is your opinion and one you are certainly entitled to. I won’t argue but there could be an argument made against ALL of the players that made the cut. Simply put, matchups make fights and the matchups that highlight some players are frankly because the defense it was done against was not that good. I don’t care about the record when looking at that either.

To make my point, Dameron was held in check for the most part during the state semifinal in Greenville yet I would argue he is in the argument for best RB in 1A. A second example would be Sanchez that was held under 30 yards in the championship, yet we can all look at his stats and know he was one of the premier backs in 1A.

All in all I would say you can look at this in multiple ways but in the end, as Gunz states in his way, to disparage one player to make yours look better leaves way too much open for interpretation.

Again, it’s all good and I wouldn’t have argued had a RH back not made it but they should also not get penalized for being in a shared back system where they aren’t the feature.
 

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I was fortunate to see Sanchez, Fiser and Brown all play. All three are outstanding backs as I am sure the ohter three were two. But hands down down Brown was the best of the three I saw. I know that won't make the Chilhowie people happy or the Grundy fans just my opinion. Brown had over 2200 yards, 30+ tds and scored round 250 points. I read soemwhere he scored a TD every 6th time he touched the ball and BTW he averaged over 10 yards a carry. Also he had over 170 in the regular seson game vs Chilhowie and no one was even close to that vs them. Just a few stats for thought
 
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IMO, yards per carry is a clear indicator. Eliminates this excuse people keep tossing out about disparity of carries.
 

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IMO, yards per carry is a clear indicator. Eliminates this excuse people keep tossing out about disparity of carries.

Makes sense, so then what was the YPC of the ones who made it vs ones who didn't that should have?
 

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Not sure there’s a reliable one-stop place with that info. Maybe I’ll dig on those who made it vs Porter (WP). I don’t make any claims about any others. I just saw him live and knew instantly. There are few as good at the Class 1 level. I watch MANY Class 4-6 football games. Rarely do Class 1 players stack up, but Porter would start for MANY of those top schools.

Think about this. Riverheads dares you to stop their limited playbook, but WP literally ran Porter right side power over 90% of the time (at least vs Northumberland). If EVERYONE in the stadium knows it’s coming and he STILL gains 5+ yards every carry (many times versus 10+ in the box), that’s impressive.
 

Gunz41!

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Not sure there’s a reliable one-stop place with that info. Maybe I’ll dig on those who made it vs Porter (WP). I don’t make any claims about any others. I just saw him live and knew instantly. There are few as good at the Class 1 level. I watch MANY Class 4-6 football games. Rarely do Class 1 players stack up, but Porter would start for MANY of those top schools.

Think about this. Riverheads dares you to stop their limited playbook, but WP literally ran Porter right side power over 90% of the time (at least vs Northumberland). If EVERYONE in the stadium knows it’s coming and he STILL gains 5+ yards every carry (many times versus 10+ in the box), that’s impressive.

I'm not arguing about your player. And at least you didn't exactly call out and denigrate another to bolster your guy.

Doesn't bother me one bit if your guy made it over any of them. I do take issue with denigrating a KID. And I don't think keeping on changing the rules to fit an agenda is right. I certainly don't see how someone being faster makes a difference, not in football. It also doesn't make sense how for a RB award how it matters that the player considered also played a defensive position. But let's put that aside. When its brought up well so and so carried it this many times, then that brings that into the conversation. And then to bring up the number of TDs doesn't matter doesn't make sense. But the thing I was really trying to point out, and maybe there isnt a definite answer, is to say using YPC is best. Well if you (not just you, you in the general term) dont know the YPC for the person you are trying to compare to, then just saying it doesn't give all the facts.

But the ONLY reason I responded, as someone who has no dog in the fight, is because a KID was being talked down about. I have done that for the 15 years or so I have posted on here. I don't think ANY kid should be talked about negatively on here, or anywhere. The point can be made another way
 

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You’ve said that multiple times. I don’t know what to tell you except I hear you & I don’t think I did that.
 

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@WP02alum, just looked at the season highlights for Porter. Young man is certainly hard to bring down if you can get to him. I was impressed with his vision as well. What stood out the most was that he sees his cutback and sets blocks up very well. He should have a monster Senior season.
 

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Agreed. MGF, get him fully healthy this off-season! Side note: very interested to see who lands as football HC at WP.