Clock management at the end

[BleedinRutgersRed]

I know we are all thrilled about the win, but it needs to be said -

First down spike with 47 seconds left on the clock
Timeout after the next play with 37 seconds left on the clock
Timeout with 5 seconds left when for all intents and purposes that last play shouldn't have taken 5 seconds off the clock (unless there is some rule about a FG taking up 5 seconds, in which this one is ok).

 

[Caliknight]

The clock management was great. We kicked the game winning field goal as the last play of the game.

 

[RUfanSinceAnderson]

Clock management was perfect. Played it well. No way Indiana was getting the ball back. That is the plan.

 

[BBMMTM]

Clock management was darn near perfect what are you talking about ?

 

[Blitz8RU]

the clock management was good since we planned on relying on a FG to win it or go into overtime. It was also a ***** move. Inside the 40 with 40 sec you go for the TD and if that fails you for for the FG. You don't start with crawling up in the fetal position. But that weak sauce move is characteristic of Kyle Flood.

 

[Abro1975]

The one thing that should have been done different was to kick the FG on 3rd down, in case of a botched snap/hold, you still could kick again on 4th (as long as we recover the botch).

 

[yesrutgers01]

the clock management was good since we planned on relying on a FG to win it or go into overtime. It was also a ***** move. Inside the 40 with 40 sec you go for the TD and if that fails you for for the FG. You don't start with crawling up in the fetal position. But that weak sauce move is characteristic of Kyle Flood.

Is it that you can't help yourself? There is a lot that most of us were not happy with but the last drive is not one of them...
I'm sure Flood also did something wrong in the post game interview you want to fire him for.

 

[wheezer]

I guess you were complaining that when we kicked it there could still be a second or two left...... I thought there would be two seconds left or so, didn't seem possible that a field goal is that much of a time eater

Anyway, I would take that happening anytime in an important game..
Not much Indiana could do with two seconds anyway.

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

Indiana finished the game with a timeout, correct? They easily could have made us kick the FG with 18 seconds left and then chose not to.

And again, why did 5 seconds run off the clock on the FG?

 

[biazza38]

We had three timeouts left late in the game. We had a lot of room for error with the clock. The coaches were fine. Spiking the ball was okay because we weren't going to run 3 plays.

 

[RUforester72]

We be pissin' and we be moanin'!

 

[RU848789]

The one thing that should have been done different was to kick the FG on 3rd down, in case of a botched snap/hold, you still could kick again on 4th (as long as we recover the botch).

Agree - I would always do that and don't know why more teams don't do it. Seems like a no-brainer.

 

[RU05]

I was questioning the spike at the time, but I was wrong.

Kicking the ball from inside the 10 with 5 seconds left? Perfection of the 4 minute drill.

 

[Blitz8RU]

What if that kick was blocked like a lot of our extra pts were? You'd be screaming for Flood's head for relying on an inconsistent kicking unit. We should have aimed for the TD and then settled for the FG as a fall back. Instead we were playing for a FG the whole time. That is a loser mentality and is typical of Flood coaching.

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

I was questioning the spike at the time, but I was wrong.

Kicking the ball from inside the 10 with 5 seconds left? Perfection of the 4 minute drill.

1. The only reason there were 5 seconds left was because Indiana for some unknown reason did not use their third timeout with 18 seconds left. I am looking through multiple box scores and as far as I can tell, they ended the game with a timeout.
2. We actively chose to call our last TO with 5 seconds left instead of 2. For all intents and purposes there should have been time remaining on the clock.
3. As others have pointed out, not spiking the ball or calling a previous TO would have allowed us to kick the FG on 3rd down, which is the better playcall.

 

[rurahrah000]

No need to spike the ball with 47 seconds. They can just run it in the middle of the field.

 

[RU05]

The one thing that should have been done different was to kick the FG on 3rd down, in case of a botched snap/hold, you still could kick again on 4th (as long as we recover the botch).

Well then you are leaving time on the clock. It's one or the other.

 

[FrankZ_RU93]

Agreed on :05 - just don't ever understand that.

 

[MikeR0102]

I have a bigger issue with playing for the FG then I do with the clock management. I understand not wanting to leave them any time, but I would have liked to see them go after the end zone.

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

'Perfect clock management' must mean having a 4th down with 18 seconds left, and apparently using jedi mind tricks to ensure the other team doesn't use their timeout.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Indiana finished the game with a timeout, correct? They easily could have made us kick the FG with 18 seconds left and then chose not to.

And again, why did 5 seconds run off the clock on the FG?

I agree with Bleedin on this one re: the five seconds. We almost had to kick off to them, so IMO we should have called timeout with 3 seconds (or fewer) left on the clock.

 

[RU05]

1. The only reason there were 5 seconds left was because Indiana for some unknown reason did not use their third timeout with 18 seconds left. I am looking through multiple box scores and as far as I can tell, they ended the game with a timeout.
2. We actively chose to call our last TO with 5 seconds left instead of 2. For all intents and purposes there should have been time remaining on the clock.
3. As others have pointed out, not spiking the ball or calling a previous TO would have allowed us to kick the FG on 3rd down, which is the better playcall.

1)I'm talking straight results. We started the drive with 4 minutes left and ended it with a game winning field goal as time expires. Any critique at this moment seems unfounded.

2)You could hear the sidelines yelling for a TO at "5 seconds" so maybe there is a rule which says fg's take 5 seconds?

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

Well then you are leaving time on the clock. It's one or the other.

No. What you do is not spike the ball or call a timeout after every single down before that. With 47 seconds left, you can run off 45 seconds on 2 plays since Indiana seemingly forgot they had a TO.

 

[knight82]

I don't understand why you wouldn't want to settle for a field goal when a field goal will win the game for you

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

1)I'm talking straight results.

I'm not - I'm talking about Football 101 and not having to win games despite obvious coaching blunders.

 

[RU05]

'Perfect clock management' must mean having a 4th down with 18 seconds left, and apparently using jedi mind tricks to ensure the other team doesn't use their timeout.

Ha, as if kicking a (potential) game winning fg with 18 seconds left, on a drive that started with 4 minutes to go was poor clock mgmt.

Dudes are off their rocker.

 

[Abro1975]

I think the odds of a botched snap /hold are greater than the odds of them scoring w 5 secs left (we would have squibbed the KO).

 

[RU05]

I'm not - I'm talking about Football 101 and not having to win games despite obvious coaching blunders.

Wait what was the blunder?

 

[Rutgers Man 22]

What if that kick was blocked like a lot of our extra pts were? You'd be screaming for Flood's head for relying on an inconsistent kicking unit. We should have aimed for the TD and then settled for the FG as a fall back. Instead we were playing for a FG the whole time. That is a loser mentality and is typical of Flood coaching.

You're the one with the loser mentality. Did we win? It's that simple. I mean, jeez, you are just a ball of negativity. Lighten the hell up

 

[RU05]

So Flood calls the timeout with 5 seconds left. We kick the fg and time expires. But Flood played it wrong?


This is what we are talking about right now?

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

Ha, as if kicking a (potential) game winning fg with 18 seconds left, on a drive that started with 4 minutes to go was poor clock mgmt.

Dudes are off their rocker.

There was absolutely no reason this drive should have been 4th down with 18 seconds left. That's all I am trying to say here. Crazier things have happened than Indiana taking a timeout and scoring with a few seconds left on the clock.

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

Wait what was the blunder?

As I've stated numerous times, the blunder was forcing this drive to go to 4th down and 18 seconds left, with Indiana having a TO. Do you not see a potential problem here?

 

[RU05]

If we went for the TD and a pick was thrown or a sack? then what? Well many have the "rettig should be playing" argument to fall back on.

We win a game of this magnitude. Kick a FG as time expires, on a drive that started with 4 minutes to go and people are questioning the clock mgmt?

You all need to get your heads checked.

 

[S.B. Crumb]

Yes, OP. But our coaches are dullards so I'm not surprised. Time management was poor and actively prepping for a FG with a very bad kicker (and that's being kind) and plenty of time on the clock to try for a TD was stupid.

Only simple-minded people believe the end justify the means.

 

[csphi]

the clock management was good since we planned on relying on a FG to win it or go into overtime. It was also a ***** move. Inside the 40 with 40 sec you go for the TD and if that fails you for for the FG. You don't start with crawling up in the fetal position. But that weak sauce move is characteristic of Kyle Flood.

You really are too f'ing stupid to exist

 

[Caliknight]

You really are too f'ing stupid to exist

Pretty sure him and NIRH are just doing shtick for attention.

 

[RU05]

Indiana finished the game with a timeout, correct? They easily could have made us kick the FG with 18 seconds left and then chose not to.

And again, why did 5 seconds run off the clock on the FG?

So what is you critique? The fact that there was 18 seconds left on 4th down while Indiana had a TO or the fact that we called TO at 5 seconds?

We kick the fg as time expires and people are complaining about time mgmt? Very confusing.

 

[wheezer]

I have a bigger issue with playing for the FG then I do with the clock management. I understand not wanting to leave them any time, but I would have liked to see them go after the end zone.

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Actually the field goal was a better ending and a better thing for the team.... After all the trouble we had at kicking all day, let the kicking unit bring home the win.... Put some confidence back into that unit

Don't want them questioning themselves all week, and it shows coach had faith in them also....

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

If we went for the TD and a pick was thrown or a sack? then what? Well many have the "rettig should be playing" argument to fall back on.

We win a game of this magnitude. Kick a FG as time expires, on a drive that started with 4 minutes to go and people are questioning the clock mgmt?

You all need to get your heads checked.

I don't have a problem with going for the FG. I don't think we could throw the ball there.

The point I am trying to make is the only reason the clock worked out is because the other team did not use their timeout, which makes no sense.

If we had to kick the FG with 18 seconds left, and leave 14 seconds for a kickoff and one or two plays, would you still consider that to be passable coaching decisions regarding the clock, when we easily could have been in a 3rd down FG try with 2-3 seconds left?

 

[BleedinRutgersRed]

So what is you critique? The fact that there was 18 seconds left on 4th down while Indiana had a TO or the fact that we called TO at 5 seconds?

Both.