Coach34 love for Cohen

[BrandonAcctgDawg]

After bashing stans for three years I don't understand his Cohen man crush. Meanwhile game after game we make errors, balks, and get an absurd amount of guys thrown out on the bases. Yes we are young, but that is all on Cohen. I used to enjoy reading your posts but you make every excuse in the book for him while never giving stans any credit.

Truth is if Cohen was not a "State guy" we'd all want him fired this year. There is a reason our fan support is so bad. Watching us is like watching the bad news bears. And how will it get any better when Stratton leaves?

 

[BrandonAcctgDawg]

After bashing stans for three years I don't understand his Cohen man crush. Meanwhile game after game we make errors, balks, and get an absurd amount of guys thrown out on the bases. Yes we are young, but that is all on Cohen. I used to enjoy reading your posts but you make every excuse in the book for him while never giving stans any credit.

Truth is if Cohen was not a "State guy" we'd all want him fired this year. There is a reason our fan support is so bad. Watching us is like watching the bad news bears. And how will it get any better when Stratton leaves?

 

[BrandonAcctgDawg]

After bashing stans for three years I don't understand his Cohen man crush. Meanwhile game after game we make errors, balks, and get an absurd amount of guys thrown out on the bases. Yes we are young, but that is all on Cohen. I used to enjoy reading your posts but you make every excuse in the book for him while never giving stans any credit.

Truth is if Cohen was not a "State guy" we'd all want him fired this year. There is a reason our fan support is so bad. Watching us is like watching the bad news bears. And how will it get any better when Stratton leaves?

 

[Coach34]

1. We are in a rebuilding year- as is Vandy. It happens.

2. We were in a Super last year- only our 2nd in the last 10 years. Nobody in their right mind would want him fired. I dont even count his 1st two years because of the mess he had to clean up. Last 5 seasons- fewest players drafted in the SEC? Miss State. Thank you Ron Polk. In Cohen's 3rd season- he had 1 player drafted that belonged to Polk. That is just sad in SEC baseball.

3. We will hit the ball better and be better defensively next season.

4. We have some young, talented pitchers getting experience. If you remember- Stratton looked like **** alot of last season- suddenly he is much better. Players get better under good coaching

 

[weblow]

There is no talking sense into a lot of these guys about baseball. I have never seen more people who know less about a sport try to get on here and talk ****.

As much fun as was made of Polk's "That's Baseball." That is what a lot of this is.

If people cannot look at the injuries we have had this year and how that has impacted this season, there is no use in even arguing with them. It is just a waste of time.

 

[squirldawg]

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[Coach34]

NCAA Tourney success

Baseball fans can't grasp that we were in only our 2nd Super in 10 years and then lost almost all of our starters

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Cohen had a bad year recruiting 3 years ago and it is reflected in the fact that we have one (1) Senior position player and only 2 Junior position players and both of them are first year players. And his last 2 classes he has so-called recruited to "our ballpark". Speed and Defense to go along with his first 2 classes of pitchers. Well they can run like Willie Mays....but they hit like..... Mae West.

In 4 SEC wins, MSU has "produced" 7, 11, 5 and 7 runs. In 7 SEC losses, MSU has "produced" 2, 3, 0, 5, 6, 2, and 3 runs. I put in quotations "produced" because they have not really done much "run producing" with line drives or long balls and only on a few occasions in the losses have they managed to drive in runners from 2nd with base hits. The 7th inning today is a prime illustration of my point. 3 difference Vandy pitchers walked the bases loaded with no outs.. We got 2 runs out of that with 2 ground ball outs and then grounded out with runners at 2nd and 3rd to end the inning. As I have said on many occasions including during wins, our punch and judy hitters are no punch..... just judy.

 

[Coach34]

Cohen left Kentucky the #4 recruiting class in the country when he left them to come to State in June, 2008

Polk left Cohen garbage

This is Ron Polk's Senior class buddy

 

[The Peeper]

how many of his Soph class are making meaningful contributions?

 

[DavidKellumNicknameGenerator]

He's playing his recruits.

 

[engie]

Of all our "first team" contributors are sophs... Several are hurt, yes.

Our jr and sr classes were recruiting failures, for the level we expect from MSU baseball, that much I agree with.

I see our fr/soph classes as absolutely on the level I expected from Cohen. We are very close to being ready to compete for championships. I agree that the philosophy needs to change...

 

[Coach34]

This Sr class should have 5-6 Polk guys left that can help lead the team this year and make positive contributions. But we don't have that.

We went juco heavy for the quick fix- and Cohen got us A Super Regional by doing that. You need to thank him. Only our 2nd Super in 10 years. But by doing that, it has caused a rebuilding year in 2012. And we aren't out of making a regional yet this season. Vandy is rebuilding- would you rather be them with a losing record?

We return almost all our position players and have some good young pitching being developed. 2013 looks very promising. I don't understand what you people are missing?

 

[bill brasky.sixpack]

Cohen ran off 90% of Polks guys when he showed up. Because of the stuff that went on he wanted this to be his program with his players and he ran off basically everyone. There is no way you are going to get away with blaming this year on Polk, and if you try, then last years SR was Polk's doing. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Coach34]

Cohen ran off 90% of Polks guys when he showed up. Because of the stuff that went on he wanted this to be his program with his players and he ran off basically everyone. &nbsp;There is no way you are going to get away with blaming this year on Polk, and if you try, then last years SR was Polk's doing. You can't have it both ways.

Polk gets blame because none of his guys are left. His recruits were dogshit. Notice none of them have moved on to bigger and better things since leaving State

Polk gets little credit for last season because, let me remind you aGAIN, very few of his former players made big contributions. And as Todd pointed out- of our 4 players drafted last June, 3 of them were Cohen recruits

 

[myusernamesucks]

Its not #@%%##+ 2013!! It's 2012, and we want to win NOW? We can talk next year when it gets here. We should be winning THIS year.

 

[bill brasky.sixpack]

All of them are Polk recruits. Polk had one losing season, his very last. At what point is this going to become Cohen's program in your mind, we are staring down the barrel of another double digit finish in the SEC. <div id="myEventWatcherDiv" style="display:none;"></div>

 

[DavidKellumNicknameGenerator]

Alabama- 4
Arkansas- 2
Auburn- 5
Florida- 4
Georgia- 6
Kentucky- 1
LSU- 4
Mississippi State- 2
Ole Miss- 1
South Carolina- 3
Tennessee- 3
Vandy- 2

So that averages out to right at 3 non-Juco seniors per SEC team. I'd say the "We're supposed to have 5-6 seniors" excuse doesn't hold water. If your problem as a team was that Polk stopped recruiting talent and left your four years later with no senior talent or leaders, we should see every other SEC team with lots of seniors who were recruited four years ago. The fact is, that's not the case. Good or bad, these are Cohen's players.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

When Rodney Hood was injured in basketball and we suffered with him out probably costing us an NCAA tourney bid , that was all the basketball coaches fault. Double standard if there ever was one.

 

[Coach34]

had Polk stayed on- he wouldnt have had another winning season- even he knew where the program was and it was time to get out

This season is on Cohen. It's his rebuild. But you cant just throw a generic "year 4" out there like that matters. Bianco missed a regional in Year 10...Corbin is missing a regional in Year 9...You have to look at what;s going on with the program. And what is going on is that we were in a Super last season, and we have some good young talent on this team. Next year's team should be a good SEC ballclub.

I'd let this season play out before calling us a double digit finisher- long way to go and we have some guys getting healthy. We have lost 3 extra-inning games and another 1 run affair- we are real close to also being a 7-4 or 6-5 SEC club right now. We arent even halfway thru the SEC schedule

 

[weblow]

that you spew on here. We sucked in basketball because we put forth less effort than an over 40 church league.

We are struggling in baseball because we have been beat the hell up and injured for all of our conference play. Not just one player but 4. We have been putting young, inexperienced players out there that quite honestly have done well to not allow us to be swept.

 

[windcrysmary]

if we don't win tomorrow, 17 it... spare me your one game baseball scenario.. this **** is getting old

I'm not willing to throw in the towel and accept that dick sucking should be accepted.. we had back to back walks delivered to us on a silver plater and our answer was to SUCK DICK...

DICK SUCKING is what Cohen has delivered.. 17 last year's billboard.. because that is what a DICK SUCKING organization delivers when they can't deliver the goods..

17 THIS ********.. 4 years and wining one out of three every GOD DAMNED series?

we will get our ASSES handed to us again tomorrow.. because we are being led by a guy who has no 17ing CLUE!!!! get the 17 out of town you *** clown!! go back to KY where you belong!!!~

 

[myusernamesucks]

Nobody gives a +$+*. We should all want to win NOW, excuses be damned.

 

[patdog]

This is college baseball. The recruiting cycle is THREE years. If you're counting on SRs you will never ever ever be successful. It's amazing the excuses you will continue to make for Cohen. This is COHEN'S team. It's time he starts winning a few SEC series with it. Let's hope that starts tomorrow.

 

[Coach34]

We won last season- and lost all our starters. Why should we be winning?

Vandy has been one of the SEC's best programs, they lost all their starters- and they have a losing record- we dont.

Why should we be winning in a rebuilding year?

 

[patdog]

We did make a super regional last year, but we hardly won much. We barely even snuck into the tournament at all and then got a LOT of help with one of the softest draws any #3 seed has ever gotten and then got even more help when Austin Peay beat GA Tech.

 

[lxadawg]

and I get reprimanded for calling Ole Miss a "childish" name?

 

[DawgatAuburn]

No reasonable person thinks that Rodney Hood's injury cost us an NCAA tournament bid. He got hurt at halftime of a game against Kentucky, and like we have seen over and over again, we weren't going to hold that lead. That was game four in a five game losing streak, so how do you spin that one? No matter, after Kentucky we then laid a complete turd at Bama, and he would not have mattered one iota if he had played his usual 36 minutes on the Stansbury substitution pattern. He then played against South Carolina which we won in such highly impressive fashion, and then again against Arkansas in our last decent effort. He also played against the next turd, which was UGA in New Orleans.

Now how you can look at that and say that the injury cost us the NCAA tournament is beyond me. You seriously need to let it go and start trying to snuggle up to Rick II.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Have a citation on "<span style="font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">one of the softest draws any #3 seed has ever gotten</span>
" ? Of course you don't because you pulled it completely out of your ***.<div>
</div><div>http://warrennolan.com/baseball/2011/rpi
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</div><div>Georgia Tech RPI = 10, precisely where a non-national 1 seed should be</div><div>Southern Miss RPI = 27, right in range for a 2 seed</div><div>Mississippi State RPI = 16, oh what that disproves your fantasy that we didn't really belong in the tournament so let's just ignore that number</div><div>Austin Peay RPI = 113, not good, but plenty of teams with lower RPIs get autobids.</div><div>
</div><div>And remember, the NCAA committee ignores the RPIs a lot to make geographically balanced regions, but judging by these numbers, we actually went to one of the hardest regionals. But that doesn't fit your agenda so you'll just spew out whatever, thinking no one will call you out with facts.</div>

 

[57stratdawg]

(out of 12) 12th, 12th, 8th, and looking at 9+ this year.

Sorry Coach, but Cohen's to blame for the inexperience this year - not Polk. As pointed out, only 2 or 3 Srs stay all 4 years these days. Check out the contributions we're getting from Cohen's first class:

Stratton (great)
Ethan Bright (no longer on team)
CC Watson (none)
Luke Boyle (no longer on team)
Kolby Byrd (no longer on team (St Louis draftee))
Matt Lane (no longer on team)
Tim Statz (no impact)

Im sure there are others i cant think of. We have a high level of attrition under Cohen. Those are the guys missing on this years team, not Polk's guys. Next year is put up or shut up for Cohen. If we're in the bottom third of the league, it'll be time for a change.

 

[Coach34]

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[Coach34]

Anybody with any sense knows this is a rebuilding year...if we get in a regional- great

Next season will have higher expectations for sure

 

[KurtRambis4]

Our baseball program has reached the bottom. Our fans are the least knowledgable and supporting in the league.

 

[patdog]

GA Tech has a long history of choking as the #1 seed in regionals they host. Sure their RPI said they should be a #1 host, but out of the 16 sites last year, given the choice, that's the one I want to go to. Not to mention that we didn't even have to play GA Tech until they were down to their 5th starter (who had thrown 11 innings in his career).

USM's overall record last season was pretty good, but by the end of the season they were devastated by injuries and major slumps. They only scored 15 runs in their last 9 games. At the time we faced them, they were a bad team.

 

[bill brasky.sixpack]

Hell if that is case, Bianco is the best Coach in america. I want Omaha, not SR's. And Coach keeps talking about just getting into a regional. You know how you get to Omaha 80% of the time, that is by having a great regular season (Not sneaking into a regional) and hosting a regional and super regional. Chances of making it to Omaha when you don't host at least a regional are tiny. <div id="myEventWatcherDiv" style="display:none;"></div> <div>
</div><div>I am not advocating firing Cohen after this year no matter what happens the rest of the year, but if doesn't have a great year next year, he should move along. I just don't get all these people pumping sunshine up Cohen's *** when he hasn't done anything here yet. </div>

 

[rugbdawg]

from our banner year in which we finished 14-16 in league play and 0-2 in the SEC tourney? We backed into a regional bid. Then, something clicked one weekend and we made it to a Super. Facts are facts. Polk's last 4 years are better than anything Cohen has put together in his 3 and a half years. Even moreso under your skewed standards. Polk's team got hot and made it to a CWS. Look, there is no reason to panic yet. Signs generally point we are headed in the right direction, just slower than most hoped. But, to blindly defend Cohen AND to call this a rebuilding year from last year is idiotic. Furthermore, don't compare Vandy's rebuilding years to ours. They have been dominate lately.

 

[Coach34]

Granted, they havent been in place the entire 20- but for at least 13 of them I know...

Everybody wants Omaha- but the facts are that for our program- a Super Regional is a big deal because we dont get to many. We have only 3 CWS appearances in the last 20 years. THREE. Thats not a top notch baseball program, and puts us in the lower half of the SEC in that time frame

 

[Coach34]

Obviously the better you do during the SEC season enhances your seeding, but when it comes down to it- it's what your team accomplishes in the regional and beyond.

Polk's CWS team in 2007 was only 15-13 in the SEC

 

[bill brasky.sixpack]

We have made 4 SR's, averages to 1 every 3 years. Since 1990 which is 21 years we have made 4 WS's which is 1 every 5 years. We have the 3rd most appearances in the CWS in the SEC. Since you want to use 20 years and exclude the 90 CWS, I will do that and we are still in the top half with 3 CWS appearances in the SEC, ahead of Vandy, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Auburn, Arkansas, tied with Bama and UT (only because both had a 3 year run in the late '90s and are garbage as programs), one behind UGA, and well behind Florida, South Carolina, and LSU. You include '90 in your stuff and we are ahead of Bama and UT, but you want facts to fit your narrative.<div id="myEventWatcherDiv" style="display:none;"></div><div>
</div><div>You have very low expectations for Cohen, it is year 4 and we are scuffling hard. I expect CWS for our program and if Cohen can't get us there next year then I think we should go in a different direction. </div>

 

[Sutterkane]

We're going to fire a coach a year removed from a Super Regional? You at least give him an extra year to right the ship...and that said, this season is far from over. We are far from eliminated from postseason play.

Basing merits solely on team performance, there is no way in hell State will ever fire anybody that has gotten that far in postseason play the next year. We do not have the budget or expectation level in any sport to do that.