Coleman Hutzler

Will Coleman Hutzler get a third year in Starkville?

  • Yes

    Votes: 82 64.6%
  • No

    Votes: 45 35.4%

  • Total voters
    127

3407Dewey

Senior
Jun 4, 2014
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Our defense got exposed, badly, against Missouri. But with the lack of depth we have, I don't put that entirely on Hutzler. I think by and large, the defense took a huge step this year. And all this stuff about Hutzler being Lebby's best friend, Lebby being Selmon's best friend, etc., just shows that many of you don't know how the real world works. Most people won't stake their career and reputation on a nepo hire.
 

Barkman Turner Overdrive

All-Conference
May 28, 2006
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Our defense got exposed, badly, against Missouri. But with the lack of depth we have, I don't put that entirely on Hutzler. I think by and large, the defense took a huge step this year. And all this stuff about Hutzler being Lebby's best friend, Lebby being Selmon's best friend, etc., just shows that many of you don't know how the real world works. Most people won't stake their career and reputation on a nepo hire.
Lebby sure has a lot of "best friends."
 

soccerdad

Freshman
Apr 16, 2019
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All of you are not helping by bitching about the coaches. We started out ok but as injuries and 2nd teamers came in we did not have any depth. Your still forgetting they started with players that were not up to it 2 years ago. Instead of complaining give to the NIL, I do it on a monthly draft.
 

The Peeper

Heisman
Feb 26, 2008
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SHOULD he be fired, yes. WILL he be fired, no.
Seriously this again? Hutzler is not THE problem in Starkville.

You don't think giving up 41, 31, 45, 23, 35, 41, 49, in games is the problem? Group that together w/ a lame offense and you have across the board ineptitude on this staff.
It's athletes you will say? Who chose to spend $15 MILLION in NIL on those athletes?
 
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Seinfeld

All-American
Nov 30, 2006
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I would say he’s actually the least problem on the staff.
Hutzler may be the top defensive mind in all of college football, but you’d never know it because his staff’s recruiting has been an abomination throughout his entire tenure here. It is far from a minor problem
 

paindonthurt

All-Conference
Apr 7, 2025
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SHOULD he be fired, yes. WILL he be fired, no.


You don't think giving up 41, 31, 45, 23, 35, 41, 49, in conference games is the problem? Group that together w/ a lame offense and you have across the board ineptitude on this staff.
It's athletes you will say? Who chose to spend $15 MILLION in NIL on those athletes?
Show me where we spent $15 million.
A legit source.
Not some loser on the internet.
Not “it’s common knowledge”.
Blah blah blah
 
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patdog

Heisman
May 28, 2007
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Hutzler may be the top defensive mind in all of college football, but you’d never know it because his staff’s recruiting has been an abomination throughout his entire tenure here. It is far from a minor problem
I'll let you in on a secret. Hutzler is not the top defensive mind in all of college football. He's probably the worst P4 defensive coordinator in the country.
 
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The Peeper

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Show me where we spent $15 million.
A legit source.
Not some loser on the internet.
Not “it’s common knowledge”.
Blah blah blah
Go back and listen to Sports Talk MS from Monday, Hadad and Borkey were discussing. I think they referenced Robby Hudson as saying it
 

johnson86-1

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2012
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Will Lebby make the correct move in the offseason?
I don't think there is a correct move. We need more talent on the field and on the sideline, but it's hard to upgrade the talent on the sideline when they know it's a make or break year. With all the coaching turnover, this might actually be a good year to find a DC as there are going to be lots of moving parts and maybe a good one somehow gets left out. But committing to buyout Hutzler without having an alternative in hand is a big risk to take. Unless making Paul Rhoads DC will make things better, which who knows, it might.

The good news is that with every player working on a one year deal, we may actually be able to continue to upgrade talent on the defensive side of the ball. Players won't be as concerned about where Lebby will be after next year. They'll just be concerned about whether they can win next year and how much money they will get, with which order those concerns come in being dependent on the player.

But going to be a tough sale regardless of whether your talking about upgrading players or coaches. OUr argument is basically, we were three plays away from being 8-3 right now, but lots of the players will be gone next year and the coaches that made the decisions will be back.
 

paindonthurt

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Go back and listen to Sports Talk MS from Monday, Hadad and Borkey were discussing. I think they referenced Robby Hudson as saying it
Well that certainly settles it if Robby Hudson might have said it.

Remind me again as wtf Robby Hudson is?
 
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Our defense got exposed, badly, against Missouri. But with the lack of depth we have, I don't put that entirely on Hutzler. I think by and large, the defense took a huge step this year. And all this stuff about Hutzler being Lebby's best friend, Lebby being Selmon's best friend, etc., just shows that many of you don't know how the real world works. Most people won't stake their career and reputation on a nepo hire.
Most people won't go for it on 4th down from inside their own 20 either. We are not talking about normal people.
 
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ckDOG

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Dec 11, 2007
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Our defense got exposed, badly, against Missouri. But with the lack of depth we have, I don't put that entirely on Hutzler. I think by and large, the defense took a huge step this year. And all this stuff about Hutzler being Lebby's best friend, Lebby being Selmon's best friend, etc., just shows that many of you don't know how the real world works. Most people won't stake their career and reputation on a nepo hire.
Huge step? Baby step at best. I'll give them that they appear to play hard for the most part, but statistically we are still bringing up the rear. It's bad production.
 

msudawg12

Senior
Dec 9, 2008
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The answer, unfortunately, is yes. But he shouldnt. Are we better this year than last? yes. Is it because of Hutzler? no. We are only seeing a slightly better defense due to better personnel. We should see that again next year but it wont be due to the coordinator.
 

3407Dewey

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Jun 4, 2014
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Huge step? Baby step at best. I'll give them that they appear to play hard for the most part, but statistically we are still bringing up the rear. It's bad production.
An intelligent reply, so I'll try to respond intelligently. You're right that we still don't have a "good" defense, so huge step may have been an exaggeration. But we were so bad last year, and our players seemed like they had no idea what to do. When I see our defense this year, it looks like players who play hard but run out of steam. They seem to generally know where to be and what to do, but get beat by better talent, fresher players, etc. So, yeah, production is bad. But do I think a change of defensive coordinator is going to magically improve it? No. We need more and better talent.
 
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soccerdad

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From my son at 10:00 am who has a friend that is tied to the OM athletic department, Kiffin being promised $40 mill NIL and meeting with AD Friday AM. Good source. Not sure if 40 Mil is total or new money but students and ticket buyers about to get squeezed. May include the SEC money. Just last week they started a deal where if the students left early they moved down on ticket priority for next year to force them to stay till 4th qtr. Have a code that they have to text within stadium to confirm they are there.

This will hurt families who are already spending $1,000 a weekend to go to a game.
 

RiverCityDawg

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An intelligent reply, so I'll try to respond intelligently. You're right that we still don't have a "good" defense, so huge step may have been an exaggeration. But we were so bad last year, and our players seemed like they had no idea what to do. When I see our defense this year, it looks like players who play hard but run out of steam. They seem to generally know where to be and what to do, but get beat by better talent, fresher players, etc. So, yeah, production is bad. But do I think a change of defensive coordinator is going to magically improve it? No. We need more and better talent.
In SEC games we are giving up 36 ppg. That's horrendous. That's also only 3 ppg better than last year. We are giving up only
about 26 less ypg, so just slightly better than last year on that as well.

You simply cannot have two consecutive years defenses this bad and leave that guy in charge for a third year. Not when there is no prior track record of success to lean on. There is literally NO evidence that Hutzler is an even average at his job.

I do think talent is a major factor, but he's responsible for that has well. There had to be accountability in this program and the if your unit is this bad, you have to go.
 

thekimmer

All-Conference
Aug 30, 2012
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We got better players out of the portal and they played better at the first of the season until hustler was able to 'coach them down' to the same situation we were in last year. He should have been replaced after last season and I said then that if Lebby was not willing to do that then that is a reflection on HIM and his *** should be on the hook if we got a repeat performance. Well here we are. I get it that lebby kind of has to come back next year but we will again suck mightily and will be hiring a coach at this time next season.
 

GloryDawg

Heisman
Mar 3, 2005
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It might just be my perception, but our defense looks really bad when Smith is not on the field. I think the offense has a bigger play book when he is out and they know it. Again, just my perception.