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dtrain79

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Wait, I thought you had posted in the past Trump hurt the GOP when on ballot? He was not on the ballot yesterday.

I didn't even watch the news last night. The news built this up. We saw losing polls and I accepted those as accurate.

The shut down probably hurt the GOP.

Do you think the tariffs have been effective or have value?

I think Trump is an underperformer generally, but non Prez elections tend to go OK for the President’s party when the Prez has a good approval rating and badly when he doesn’t.

Trump is at 43-44 right now which is bad.

When you look at areas with huge swings to Trump in 2024, especially Hispanic ones in NJ, there was massive swings back to Dems last night. I suspect it was some combo of persuasion (Dem voters who didn’t like Biden giving an entertaining R a chance but moving back to Dems because inflation is still hitting them) and turnout (Trump cleaned up among the lowest information voters who may only show up in the Prez year or may have only shown up for Trump and aren’t regular Presidential voters).

My big takeaway from yesterday is that Youngkin or Rubio would have won by like 7% in 2024, sweeping almost every swing race in the House/Senate. There was a whole lot of voters, especially working class minorities, who thought Trump would bring back his 2019 economy; he hasn’t delivered and they didn’t vote R yesterday. Trump got these voters in 2024 while bleeding educated whites (even ones that don’t like Dems).

Honestly the concerns for the GOP about electoral prospects before 2030 should be really high. Trump isn’t doing much to be liked and the voters decisive for him seem to have limited allegiance to other Rs.

Sounds awful like Obama to me!
 

dtrain79

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I enjoy your posts even if I don't always agree. Yesterday could/should have been better for the Repubs but they likely were losing in NJ and NY. Several of the pundits talked about how many Republicans have moved from those locations and the hollowing out of the Republican base. I think there is a lot of truth there. The remaining Dem base votes Dem, even if for an attorney general (Virginia) who is a horrid person.

I think it is a worrying aspect of America as we are getting geographically partisan. It should be one country but it is not. Communists, er Social Democrats are ascending in the major cities which control major states and I have no idea what a regular Democrat is anymore.

It's funny but the Jewish leaders in NY are warning Mamdani about what he does as mayor, after they voted for him. He is going to do what he wants, he already ignored them the entire campaign. Why did they vote for him?

Rs lost VA by 5 and NJ by 6 in 2024.

Twelve months later, they lost Gov races by 15 and 13.

Mobility of the electorate seems like a pretty obvious lie to me. That whole year (a year where mobility is way down from, say, 2021 and 2022).

Seems like persuasion and to an extent differential turnout was the issue.

I’d brace myself for big fat Ls in 2026 and 2028 too if the strategy is Vance running for a third Trump term.
 

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Rs lost VA by 5 and NJ by 6 in 2024.

Twelve months later, they lost Gov races by 15 and 13.

Mobility of the electorate seems like a pretty obvious lie to me. That whole year (a year where mobility is way down from, say, 2021 and 2022).

Seems like persuasion and to an extent differential turnout was the issue.

I’d brace myself for big fat Ls in 2026 and 2028 too if the strategy is Vance running for a third Trump term.
The migration point was from Fox and it is accurate but I would concede that NJ and NY were already hopelessly Dem. The Dems can run people with checkered backgrounds and the base is inclined to support the party bosses, and because Repubs have moved to get away from the madness it is increasingly a slam dunk.

So what is a Dem in 2025? The governors in NJ and Virginia ran as moderates. Does that exist anymore at their national level?

The Dems desperately need to turn on the Federal funding spigots for their NGO's that Trump has turned off. 2026 and 2028 are the most important elections in their history. Saint Gavin Newsome is ready to serve.
 

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This is interesting. More housing would be available and cheaper without the mass influx of illegals. Also student debt is an easy fix. Get the government out of the student loan business.

 
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This is interesting. More housing would be available and cheaper without the mass influx of illegals. Also student debt is an easy fix. Get the government out of the student loan business.


This is a major issue. Biden(in addition to not being friendly to fossils) flooded our demand in this country. As Trump tries to deport, the left fights him tooth and nails. But the educated have this all figured out and vote against the GOP as things are still expensive???

That makes zero sense.

@dtrain79 funny story you can verify with pics on my fb:

I just came off back to back trips to Vegas and Key West. Of the four ladies that went with us, my wife is the least educated and has an MBA and has a pretty big job. Two of the other ladies had law degrees and are very accomplished. The other one is a CEO of a technology company worth into the billions and has a masters in accounting. These are all well educated and very accomplished women making mega bucks in the real world. They are all consistent GOP voters. They all voted for Trump. Now a couple of them do not love Trumps demeanor(to be fair), but all understand real world decisions and consequences. One is from Canada before moving to Dallas and she can't believe how dumb her country is. She hated the 51st state talk and I agree.

But I regress, the 5 roommates in college of my DIL are all on anti-depressants among other things and none have accomplished anything more than the piece of paper. Guaranteed none could name a policy or even the name of the speaker of the house or any cause and effect on economy or foreign policy, but are considered "high information voters". This is all based on them spending 4+ years at a communist US college. All hate "Orange Man Bad"

You want to measure high information voters? Show me a study of highly productive citizens in the private sector. My x wife went back and graduated from law school post our divorce. She went in as a staunch conservative and came out a huge liberal post 40. She has not held a job in over 10 years post law school, but will tell you just how smart she is. She lives off what I gave her at divorce settlement.
 
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I think Trump is an underperformer generally, but non Prez elections tend to go OK for the President’s party when the Prez has a good approval rating and badly when he doesn’t.

Trump is at 43-44 right now which is bad.

When you look at areas with huge swings to Trump in 2024, especially Hispanic ones in NJ, there was massive swings back to Dems last night. I suspect it was some combo of persuasion (Dem voters who didn’t like Biden giving an entertaining R a chance but moving back to Dems because inflation is still hitting them) and turnout (Trump cleaned up among the lowest information voters who may only show up in the Prez year or may have only shown up for Trump and aren’t regular Presidential voters).

My big takeaway from yesterday is that Youngkin or Rubio would have won by like 7% in 2024, sweeping almost every swing race in the House/Senate. There was a whole lot of voters, especially working class minorities, who thought Trump would bring back his 2019 economy; he hasn’t delivered and they didn’t vote R yesterday. Trump got these voters in 2024 while bleeding educated whites (even ones that don’t like Dems).

Honestly the concerns for the GOP about electoral prospects before 2030 should be really high. Trump isn’t doing much to be liked and the voters decisive for him seem to have limited allegiance to other Rs.

Sounds awful like Obama to me!
You didn't answer my question on Tariffs.

If SCOTUS stops the POTUS from having tariff power, all current deals he took across the finish line would still be in effect. I think that would open the door to China, Canada, etc to abuse the US in trade and would generally be bad for the USA and the stock market.

Do you believe Trump used tariffs to successfully tamp down conflicts across the globe? Do you see the massive tariff haul as a good thing as inflation remains reasonable?
 
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I think Trump is an underperformer generally, but non Prez elections tend to go OK for the President’s party when the Prez has a good approval rating and badly when he doesn’t.

Trump is at 43-44 right now which is bad.

When you look at areas with huge swings to Trump in 2024, especially Hispanic ones in NJ, there was massive swings back to Dems last night. I suspect it was some combo of persuasion (Dem voters who didn’t like Biden giving an entertaining R a chance but moving back to Dems because inflation is still hitting them) and turnout (Trump cleaned up among the lowest information voters who may only show up in the Prez year or may have only shown up for Trump and aren’t regular Presidential voters).

My big takeaway from yesterday is that Youngkin or Rubio would have won by like 7% in 2024, sweeping almost every swing race in the House/Senate. There was a whole lot of voters, especially working class minorities, who thought Trump would bring back his 2019 economy; he hasn’t delivered and they didn’t vote R yesterday. Trump got these voters in 2024 while bleeding educated whites (even ones that don’t like Dems).

Honestly the concerns for the GOP about electoral prospects before 2030 should be really high. Trump isn’t doing much to be liked and the voters decisive for him seem to have limited allegiance to other Rs.

Sounds awful like Obama to me!
It isn't worth pointing out your incorrect statements or your inconsistencies, because your reply is to attempt to castigate the person/persons correcting you and then you disappear for a month or so !
 

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This is a major issue. Biden(in addition to not being friendly to fossils) flooded our demand in this country. As Trump tries to deport, the left fights him tooth and nails. But the educated have this all figured out and vote against the GOP as things are still expensive???

That makes zero sense.

@dtrain79 funny story you can verify with pics on my fb:

I just came off back to back trips to Vegas and Key West. Of the four ladies that went with us, my wife is the least educated and has an MBA and has a pretty big job. Two of the other ladies had law degrees and are very accomplished. The other one is a CEO of a technology company worth into the billions and has a masters in accounting. These are all well educated and very accomplished women making mega bucks in the real world. They are all consistent GOP voters. They all voted for Trump. Now a couple of them do not love Trumps demeanor(to be fair), but all understand real world decisions and consequences. One is from Canada before moving to Dallas and she can't believe how dumb her country is. She hated the 51st state talk and I agree.

But I regress, the 5 roommates in college of my DIL are all on anti-depressants among other things and none have accomplished anything more than the piece of paper. Guaranteed none could name a policy or even the name of the speaker of the house or any cause and effect on economy or foreign policy, but are considered "high information voters". This is all based on them spending 4+ years at a communist US college. All hate "Orange Man Bad"

You want to measure high information voters? Show me a study of highly productive citizens in the private sector. My x wife went back and graduated from law school post our divorce. She went in as a staunch conservative and came out a huge liberal post 40. She has not held a job in over 10 years post law school, but will tell you just how smart she is. She lives off what I gave her at divorce settlement.
I like to believe this is most dependent IF PARENTS require their children to EARN whatever they are presented with is a reward for ACTUAL WORK, either in the classroom or in the work force !

My Sister's working summers and after school, my kids not in a basement (except Matt, in his weight/conditioning, wrestling mat area in this basement !)

We expect results from our children !
 

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I like to believe this is most dependent IF PARENTS require their children to EARN whatever they are presented with is a reward for ACTUAL WORK, either in the classroom or in the work force !

My Sister's working summers and after school, my kids not in a basement (except Matt, in his weight/conditioning, wrestling mat area in this basement !)

We expect results from our children !
Agree. My wife and I paid for college for our kids, but there is a hard stop when they leave college. We literally pay for nothing with the exception of health ins(to 26 as needed). They also are not allowed to move back home post college. Last year(when I was sick), I updated my will and trust. I made it not pay anything until the age of 35 for my kids. I also limited the amount they can take out of it for 10 years. I also limited my son's inheretance if he is still married to the dumb pot smoking liberal when I die. I didn't work hard in my life to have my earnings flow to the left.

My oldest DIL complained to the other kids last Christmas that we have deep pockets and do not help them much. When it got back to me what was said, I sat them all down and told them one of my most satisfying feelings in life was accomplishing higher levels in my career/ income. I told them I loved them all enough to not rob them of that feeling. So, go climb that hill!!!
 

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This is a major issue. Biden(in addition to not being friendly to fossils) flooded our demand in this country. As Trump tries to deport, the left fights him tooth and nails. But the educated have this all figured out and vote against the GOP as things are still expensive???

That makes zero sense.

@dtrain79 funny story you can verify with pics on my fb:

I just came off back to back trips to Vegas and Key West. Of the four ladies that went with us, my wife is the least educated and has an MBA and has a pretty big job. Two of the other ladies had law degrees and are very accomplished. The other one is a CEO of a technology company worth into the billions and has a masters in accounting. These are all well educated and very accomplished women making mega bucks in the real world. They are all consistent GOP voters. They all voted for Trump. Now a couple of them do not love Trumps demeanor(to be fair), but all understand real world decisions and consequences. One is from Canada before moving to Dallas and she can't believe how dumb her country is. She hated the 51st state talk and I agree.

But I regress, the 5 roommates in college of my DIL are all on anti-depressants among other things and none have accomplished anything more than the piece of paper. Guaranteed none could name a policy or even the name of the speaker of the house or any cause and effect on economy or foreign policy, but are considered "high information voters". This is all based on them spending 4+ years at a communist US college. All hate "Orange Man Bad"

You want to measure high information voters? Show me a study of highly productive citizens in the private sector. My x wife went back and graduated from law school post our divorce. She went in as a staunch conservative and came out a huge liberal post 40. She has not held a job in over 10 years post law school, but will tell you just how smart she is. She lives off what I gave her at divorce settlement.
The collegiate system is playing a huge part in the destruction of our society. There are any number of incoming college kids who go in with solid upbringing and come out of college as leftist zombies. People with minds that aren’t as strong who are surrounded by the wrong crowd surely do become unrecognizable libs. The old saying was “If you are 20 and a Republican, you have no heart. If you’re 40 and a Democrat, you have no brain.” We have a lot of people with no brains running around our country.
 

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Most of you haven't seen Mary Anne !

I first spoke to her on 06/15 on her 18th B-Day, no I'm not so stupid to enter the year here !
We've been together since !
So I got MY trophy Wife on the FIRST TRY !

She KNOWS that I would look AND memorize what I saw in the elevator !
She KNOWS that I was trained for multiple hours and tests in NJSP to see and recall what is in my view !
She KNOWS that I have NO interest in Sidney S. (Plus I'm too old, IF I did !)

Good luck to some young hard charger !
 

BigWill

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The collegiate system is playing a huge part in the destruction of our society. There are any number of incoming college kids who go in with solid upbringing and come out of college as leftist zombies. People with minds that aren’t as strong who are surrounded by the wrong crowd surely do become unrecognizable libs. The old saying was “If you are 20 and a Republican, you have no heart. If you’re 40 and a Democrat, you have no brain.” We have a lot of people with no brains running around our country.
Nothing has changed in the past 50 + years.

Syracuse Univ has the entrances to main campus and Admin Building barricaded and occupies for Country-wide protests over the Viet Nam War !

I go over to and enter the Admin Building to see who and what was going on with these protests.
I saw and heard what I wanted and left the Building for a beer at Ed's Place (Local FB team hangout !)

Syracuse PD Chief came along and threatened arrest and tear gas ! Building empties, barricades taken down as Admin caves !

No more classes OR finals. You could opt to take your current grade OR take the final !
School empties !
 
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The collegiate system is playing a huge part in the destruction of our society. There are any number of incoming college kids who go in with solid upbringing and come out of college as leftist zombies. People with minds that aren’t as strong who are surrounded by the wrong crowd surely do become unrecognizable libs. The old saying was “If you are 20 and a Republican, you have no heart. If you’re 40 and a Democrat, you have no brain.” We have a lot of people with no brains running around our country.

Not just running around, starting to just run our country. Getting put in really important positions.

A lot of progressive movements are pushed on young kids because kids blindly support what they are told to support. You see it with the gender movement. Kids are the best audience because the presenter gets validation. Adults are less likely to give them that.
 
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BigWill

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WE GAVE them the Vote !

Many of you have seen these huge buildings and parking lots as you get cheap gas nearby !

Walmart is the name !

I'm told that Walmart has something called an "App" on many women's cell phones !

That "App" allows these women to order foodstuffs on the cell AND Walmart DELIVERS to these women's front porch FOR NO DELIVER CHARGE OR TIP !

We have 2 Walmart stores, each about 10 miles away = 20 miles round trip, either store !

Mary Anne has gone to a Walmart to pick up both Amanda's order and her's ! They both have ordered on the "App" and when Mary Anne arrives a Walmart employee will bring out the 2 orders !

What does Mary Anne have to do , First ?

GAS UP the car !

She just returned.
I was WRONG ! She in her largesse gave the girl that loaded the SUV, a dollar tip !
The girl was shocked to receive anything !
 
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