Curt Shilling Twitter story. Bravo. This coming from a die hard Yankee fan.

[WhiteBus]

Was watching the Dan Patrick show and they were talking about the firestorm that was created after Curt Shilling tweeted a congrats about his bdaughter getting a college scholarship.
Some people went way overboard and threatend rape and all kind of terrible stuff.
Schilling tracked some of these people down and notified there work place or school and they are now paying for their sins including a ticket seller for the Yankees.
People need to realize that just because there is freedom of speech doesn't mean you can't be held accountable.
I've always had a bias against Shilling. But in this case I applaud a father protecting his daughter.

 

[Knightmoves]

The two perps are real low lifes and deserve to be called out for their heinous actions. The kid from Brookdale apparently has a radio show there and has been suspended and police are investigating additional charges against him. Hope this sets an example for others who engage in this type of online activity.

 

[Beancounter88]

I'm glad he called out these jerks and they got what they deserved. But, when you live your life in social media, this will happen. You don't want strangers saying nasty things, don't post it publicly. That's pretty naive.

 

[WhiteBus]

Bean. There is a line for which there is no excuses. Period. This is one of them. Schilling doesn't deserve any criticism here.

 

[miketd1]

Originally posted by Beancounter88:
I'm glad he called out these jerks and they got what they deserved. But, when you live your life in social media, this will happen. You don't want strangers saying nasty things, don't post it publicly. That's pretty naive.

Haters gonna hate.

As much as I hate that saying, it's 100% true.

 

[RCTrooper]

I think that Schilling is a total a$$hole but good for him. I wish that people got called out more often on twitter when they post hateful content.

 

[DJ Spanky]

After reading this, I had to track down a link for it:

Curt Schilling Tracks Down Guys Harassing Daughter on Twitter, "There Are Repercussions to Your Actions"

So Adam Nagel and Sean MacDonald have now been permanently outed on the web for these classless postings.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Anyone remember the blow-up on this board over a WRSU radio "personality" suggesting that fat girls need to be hit in the stomach with baseball bats? The first reactions was that.. well, there's worse stuff in the "Livingston Medium". Eventually some WRSU guy on this board said the "personality" had been suspended.

I rather wonder if this is going to be a generational thing as successive generations have pushed the bounds of what is acceptable in public behavior.. dress, actions, speech.

 

[RCTrooper]

Originally posted by GoodOl'Rutgers:

I rather wonder if this is going to be a generational thing as successive generations have pushed the bounds of what is acceptable in public behavior.. dress, actions, speech.

The next generation has always pushed the boundaries but what seems different is the coarsening of this society in its interactions. It is occurring everywhere; not just on-line but in politics, in the streets and in the schools.

It seems that "mean-ness" is accepted and celebrated and considered clever.
This post was edited on 3/3 11:43 AM by RCTrooper

 

[Leonard23]

I love that Schilling did this. Is anyone surprised that the 2 outed trolls attended NJ colleges (Brookdale CC & Montclair State)?
Posted from Rivals Mobile

 

[BeKnighted_rivals]

Originally posted by Beancounter88:
I'm glad he called out these jerks and they got what they deserved. But, when you live your life in social media, this will happen. You don't want strangers saying nasty things, don't post it publicly. That's pretty naive.

Interestingtly, Twitter is now in the midst of a major effort to address harassment and other bad behavior, so apparently they don't agree.

Look, if they had said something like "I bet you pulled strings to get her the scholarship," then I'd say he was out of line. But if there were threats, not only was it completely fine to report them, but it was 100% the right thing to do. We shouldn't make believe that those kinds of threats, wherever made, don't affect the people who are threatened.

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Originally posted by Leonard23:
I love that Schilling did this. Is anyone surprised that the 2 outed trolls attended NJ colleges (Brookdale CC & Montclair State)?
Posted from Rivals Mobile

What does this mean?

Lesser schools than RU have a monopoly on ********?

 

[MrsScrew_rivals32693]

Originally posted by Beancounter88:
I'm glad he called out these jerks and they got what they deserved. But, when you live your life in social media, this will happen. You don't want strangers saying nasty things, don't post it publicly. That's pretty naive.

Bean, have you read the things that were said? they go beyond "nasty" to horrid and horrific and vile and things that should never be said about anyone, let alone a 17y/o girl whose father did nothing more than brag that she was going to college.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

I understand him doing what he did and have no problem with it. But this could open a whole new can of worms re: the internet. Some of the most vile, bigoted people I see are on the internet these days. But they are under the cover shield of that medium. Could this in some way be the incident that puts an end to some of that?

 

[JayRU09]

This is the internet. It's what the internet does. This push against anonymity is going to backfire so hard. Better to just ignore idiots like this than to make a big deal over it. Because spoiler alert: You can't win against the internet.

 

[Skull83]

Originally posted by JayRU09:
This is the internet. It's what the internet does. This push against anonymity is going to backfire so hard. Better to just ignore idiots like this than to make a big deal over it. Because spoiler alert: You can't win against the internet.

I think Schilling just did

 

[JayRU09]

Originally posted by Skull83:

Originally posted by JayRU09:
This is the internet. It's what the internet does. This push against anonymity is going to backfire so hard. Better to just ignore idiots like this than to make a big deal over it. Because spoiler alert: You can't win against the internet.

I think Schilling just did

For outing two people? That's great. They'll be replaced by many more who can properly mask their IPs and identities online.

 

[Eagle78_rivals132405]

Originally posted by JayRU09:
This is the internet. It's what the internet does. This push against anonymity is going to backfire so hard. Better to just ignore idiots like this than to make a big deal over it. Because spoiler alert: You can't win against the internet.

Completely disagree with this. These jerks posted some of the most vile and despicable things imaginable about a 17-year old girl. Do you have a daughter? This is something you just don't ignore. That is the problem with cyberbullies - or any kind of bullies for that matter - ignoring them just emboldens them.

The issue of anonymity is not relevant here. If you read what these dirtbags posted, this goes way over the line. These were online threats made specifically to this girl. Just as freedom of speech does not grant a person the right to falsely yell "fire" in a crowded theatre, freedom of speech should not be some sort of safe harbor from which one person can directly threaten another - especially a child!!.

Curt Schilling handled this the correct way. He reacted by identifying these dirtbags and publicly shaming them. The result is that these individuals are now facing consequences for their actions. - which is exactly what should be happening. In essence, IMO, society should never allow conduct that would be condemned in the public square to somehow be tolerated because the conduct occurred "over the Internet."

As a father, I applaud his actions. If this were your daughter, I rather doubt you would be saying "ignore these idiots and don't make a big deal about it." Perhaps Curt's actions will serve as a reminder to other "keyboard jerks" about the consequences for engaging in such behavior. If so, we will all be better off as a result.

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[JayRU09]

Originally posted by Eagle78:

Originally posted by JayRU09:
This is the internet. It's what the internet does. This push against anonymity is going to backfire so hard. Better to just ignore idiots like this than to make a big deal over it. Because spoiler alert: You can't win against the internet.

Completely disagree with this. These jerks posted some of the most vile and despicable things imaginable about a 17-year old girl. Do you have a daughter? This is something you just don't ignore. That is the problem with cyberbullies - or any kind of bullies for that matter - ignoring them just emboldens them.

The issue of anonymity is not relevant here. If you read what these dirtbags posted, this goes way over the line. These were online threats made specifically to this young women. Just as freedom of speech does not grant a person the right to falsely yell "fire" in a crowded theatre, freedom of speech should not be some sort of safe harbor from which one person can directly threaten another - especially a child!!.

Curt Schilling handled this the correct way. He reacted by identifying these dirtbags and publicly shaming them. The result is that these individuals are now facing consequences for their actions. - which is exactly what should be happening. In essence, IMO, society should never allow conduct that would be condemned in the public square to somehow be tolerated beauteous the conduct occurred "over the Internet."

As a father, I applaud his actions. If this were your daughter, I rather doubt you would be saying "ignore these idiots and don't make a big deal about it." Perhaps Curt's actions will serve as a reminder to other "keyboard jerks" about the consequences for engaging in such behavior. If so, we will all be better off as a result.

This post was edited on 3/3 5:22 PM by Eagle78

This post was edited on 3/3 5:26 PM by Eagle78

You obviously did not grow up with the internet. 'Most vile' things? Yeah, those 'threats' are probably the least offensive thing the internet can come up with.

This is a topic where the age gap between me and most on here is most telling. Being younger than most here and having been in tune with the internet probably before most here even knew what the internet was, I can tell you that this is something you just ignore. The internet gets much, much worse than this. Just block and ignore, all you can do.

"ignoring them just emboldens them."

No, sorry. Not in the least bit. Ignoring them makes them pick new targets. Doing what Schilling did? He's going to deal with more of this now because people who can hide their identities better will know they can get a reaction out of him.

4Chan's /b/ is probably going to have a field day with this.

 

[Leonard23]

Originally posted by ruhudsonfan:

Originally posted by Leonard23:
I love that Schilling did this. Is anyone surprised that the 2 outed trolls attended NJ colleges (Brookdale CC & Montclair State)?
Posted from Rivals Mobile

What does this mean?

Lesser schools than RU have a monopoly on ********?

Huh? It means NJ has a lot of ******** & internet trolls. The schools were noted so people knew Rutgers wasn't 1 of them this time, thankfully.

 

[Beancounter88]

I have not read the comments and don't plan to. I'm not saying they shouldn't be identified and punished - they should. But when you put personal stuff out there for the world to see, you can't be totally surprised if some anonymous losers sitting in their parents' basement make awful comments. And let's be honest, If it wasn't Shilling would he have drawn those nasty comments or would have gotten the attention from law enforcement? If you or me posted about a kid who got into college, are you going to restrict it to friends and family, or open it up for every stranger in the world to see?

 

[Eagle78_rivals132405]

JayRU09

Yes, Jay, I can tell from your response you are younger. It is quite telling.

As a point of information, I have spent the last 15 years of my career developing web based applications for large global compnaies, so you might not want to stereotype me as an Internet simpleton as you obviously perceive people of my age to be.

This isn't about the Internet. This is about conduct which is unacceptable by any standard. People should never get a pass for engaging in such conduct. No good parent would EVER just ignore if what happened to Curt Schilling's daughter happened to one of their own. When you become a parent some day, you will probably understand this point.

Your last comment completely misses the point. Ignoring them WOULD likely make them pick new targets. That's the whole point. For these dirtbags anyways, they won't likely be repeating these actions with ANYONE ELSE, will they? That's progress. As far as others coming after Curt Schilling as a result of this, doubt it. One thing about bullies, when you stand up to them, they slink away. At any rate, Curt has sent out a simple message to any other would be creeps - don't think you can do this to my kids and get away with it.

Oh, and your comment about this just making people "hide identities", easier said than done - especially for someone with the skills, resources and motivation to identify dirtbags who engage in this behavior against a loved one.

This post was edited on 3/3 6:07 PM by Eagle78

 

[Eagle78_rivals132405]

Originally posted by Beancounter88:
I have not read the comments and don't plan to. I'm not saying they shouldn't be identified and punished - they should. But when you put personal stuff out there for the world to see, you can't be totally surprised if some anonymous losers sitting in their parents' basement make awful comments. And let's be honest, If it wasn't Shilling would he have drawn those nasty comments or would have gotten the attention from law enforcement? If you or me posted about a kid who got into college, are you going to restrict it to friends and family, or open it up for every stranger in the world to see?

I understand what you are saying Bean but, My God why should Schillng not be allowed to use social media like every other user in the world?

People constantly use social media for this kind of stuff - especially athletes and celebrities. Not just athletes and celebs, people form every walk of life post notable family archivements, etc. Why shouldn't Curt Schilling feel that he can avail himself of the same things that all the rest of us use without this sort of behavior occurring?

Now, as Schillng himself has said, if people want to make snarky comments directed soley about HIM, he is cool,with that. What is NOT acceptable is people taking their dislike of Curt Schilling into making violent, hateful, misogynistic comments toward his child. That's the whole point! Period. End of sentence.

 

[MADHAT1]

Originally posted by Eagle78:
JayRU09

Yes, Jay, I can tell from your response you are younger. It is quite telling.

As a point of information, I have spent the last 15 years of my career developing web based applications for large global compnaies, so you might not want to stereotype me as an Internet simpleton as you obviously perceive people of my age to be.

This isn't about the Internet. This is about conduct which is unacceptable by any standard. People should never get a pass for engaging in such conduct. No good parent would EVER just ignore if happened to Curt Schilling's daughter happened to one of their own. When you become a parent some day, you will probably understand this point.

Your last comment completely misses the point. Ignoring them WOULD likely make them pick new targets. That's the whole point. For these dirtbags anyways, they won't likely be repeating these actions with ANYONE, will they? That's progress. As far as other coming after Curt Schilling as a result of this. I doubt it. One thing about bullies, when you stand up to them, they slink away. At any rate, Curt has sent out a simple message to any other would be creeps - don't think you can do this to my kids and get away with it.

Oh, and your comment about this just making people "hide identities", easier said than done - especially for someone with the skills and resources and motivation to identify dirtbags who engage in this behavior against a loved one.

This ^^^
And:
"Curt has sent out a simple message to any other would be creeps - don't think you can do this to my kids and get away with it."
Is something we all should do if on any social media outlet a anonymous loser crosses the line, especially towards our children.
Dipshits replying in a vulgar/threatening manner shouldn't be expected , just because we post something on a social media outlet , but should be fought whenever they pop up ( including this site ) and the proper authorities notified if they cross the line from being just an a-hole to posting threatening replies to what was posted.

 

[Eagle78_rivals132405]

Originally posted by Beancounter88:
I have not read the comments and don't plan to. I'm not saying they shouldn't be identified and punished - they should. But when you put personal stuff out there for the world to see, you can't be totally surprised if some anonymous losers sitting in their parents' basement make awful comments. And let's be honest, If it wasn't Shilling would he have drawn those nasty comments or would have gotten the attention from law enforcement? If you or me posted about a kid who got into college, are you going to restrict it to friends and family, or open it up for every stranger in the world to see?

I understand what you are saying Bean but, My God why should Schillng not be allowed to use social media like every other user in the world?

People constantly use social media for this kind of stuff - especially athletes and celebrities. Not just athletes and celebs, people form every walk of life post notable family archivements, etc. Why shouldn't Curt Schilling feel that he can avail himself of the same things that all the rest of us use without this sort of behavior occurring?

Now, as Schillng himself has said, if people want to make snarky comments directed soley about HIM, he is cool,with that. What is NOT acceptable is people taking their dislike of Curt Schilling into making violent, hateful, misogynistic comments toward his child. That's the whole point! Period. End of sentence.

 

[JayRU09]

Originally posted by Eagle78:
Oh, and your comment about this just making people "hide identities", easier said than done - especially for someone with the skills, resources and motivation to identify dirtbags who engage in this behavior against a loved one.

This post was edited on 3/3 6:07 PM by Eagle78

What? No. People are very adept at hiding their real identities online. These were amateurs. If what you're saying was the case anonymous would have been completely taken down by now,

And why did Schilling and his daughter get targeted by these amateurs? Because he has a long history of poking the bear online........and costing 400 people their jobs.

Ignore and block.

 

[Eagle78_rivals132405]

Jay,
Again, you are missing my point. If people want to respond to a Curt Schilling tweet by criticizing him about his failed business venture, the loss of jobs in RI, the fact they don't like him, etc., that's a different matter. Assuming it doesn't cross the line into threats, etc., it is probably just tasteless. Schilling himself said he had no issue with this. But that is not what has happened here, is it? These were violent, hateful, misogynistic attacks against a 17-year old? THAT IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE, NOR SHOULD IT BE TOLERATED!

Can you not see the difference? Good Lord!

 

[MADHAT1]

Originally posted by JayRU09:

Originally posted by Eagle78:
Oh, and your comment about this just making people "hide identities", easier said than done - especially for someone with the skills, resources and motivation to identify dirtbags who engage in this behavior against a loved one.

This post was edited on 3/3 6:07 PM by Eagle78

What? No. People are very adept at hiding their real identities online. These were amateurs. If what you're saying was the case anonymous would have been completely taken down by now,

And why did Schilling and his daughter get targeted by these amateurs? Because he has a long history of poking the bear online........and costing 400 people their jobs.

Ignore and block.

Curt Schilling's business going under is poking the bear and costing 400 people their job?
Wasn't it his 38 Studio business' failure that cost those jobs.
Also him being a butt head or not doesn't excuse those tweets concurning Schilling's daughter, at least as far s I'm concerned.
There is no excuse for going after someone's son or daughter because you don't like them, even on the internet, in my opinion.
So I guess we will disagree about poster's rights on the internet.

 

[JayRU09]

Originally posted by MADHAT1:

Originally posted by JayRU09:

Originally posted by Eagle78:
Oh, and your comment about this just making people "hide identities", easier said than done - especially for someone with the skills, resources and motivation to identify dirtbags who engage in this behavior against a loved one.

This post was edited on 3/3 6:07 PM by Eagle78

What? No. People are very adept at hiding their real identities online. These were amateurs. If what you're saying was the case anonymous would have been completely taken down by now,

And why did Schilling and his daughter get targeted by these amateurs? Because he has a long history of poking the bear online........and costing 400 people their jobs.

Ignore and block.

Curt Schilling's business going under is poking the bear and costing 400 people their job?
Wasn't it his 38 Studio business' failure that cost those jobs.
Also him being a butt head or not doesn't excuse those tweets concurning Schilling's daughter, at least as far s I'm concerned.
There is no excuse for going after someone's son or daughter because you don't like them, even on the internet, in my opinion.
So I guess we will disagree about poster's rights on the internet.

The two statements were completely separate from each other. He is a well known fan of pissing people off online and he also ran a business into the ground costing 400 people their jobs while taking $75 million in government money despite being a so called 'small government' conservative. The internet doesn't forget stuff like that.

And there is no excuse, I'm not saying that there is. What I am saying is that you're not going to stop this stuff from happening and all Schilling did was probably make it worse for himself.

The best thing you can do for yourself online is to ignore and block people. For every one you take down five will take their place.

 

[JayRU09]

Originally posted by Eagle78:
Jay,
Again, you are missing my point. If people want to respond to a Curt Schilling tweet by criticizing him about his failed business venture, the loss of jobs in RI, the fact they don't like him, etc., that's a different matter. Assuming it doesn't cross the line into threats, etc., it is probably just tasteless. Schilling himself said he had no issue with this. But that is not what has happened here, is it? These were violent, hateful, misogynistic attacks against a 17-year old? THAT IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE, NOR SHOULD IT BE TOLERATED!

Can you not see the difference? Good Lord!

Again:

THIS IS THE INTERNET.

Look up 4chan. Look up rule 34. Look up /b/. Look up the unholy trinity. The internet is a strange, ****** up place full of terrible people too numerous to count.

You're not going to stop the internet just because you outed two people, in fact, you probably just made it worse for yourself.

What I am saying is to IGNORE and BLOCK. Especially on Twitter because the way twitter works limits the chance for a Streisand Effect. [/QUOTE]
This post was edited on 3/3 7:30 PM by JayRU09

 

[RUinFla]

Originally posted by Eagle78:
Jay,
Again, you are missing my point. If people want to respond to a Curt Schilling tweet by criticizing him about his failed business venture, the loss of jobs in RI, the fact they don't like him, etc., that's a different matter. Assuming it doesn't cross the line into threats, etc., it is probably just tasteless. Schilling himself said he had no issue with this. But that is not what has happened here, is it? These were violent, hateful, misogynistic attacks against a 17-year old? THAT IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE, NOR SHOULD IT BE TOLERATED!

Can you not see the difference? Good Lord!

Reminder to trolls everywhere: You can post but you can't hide. Schilling was proud of his daughter for her academics and her softball skills, which got her into college. He meant the tweet for his friends. Two lowlifes basically stalked her on line because they could, and because they thought they were completely anonymous. Now, they have a reputation attached to their names that will haunt them for a long time. Actions have consequences. Good for Schilling. If he gives a few trolls pause, even better. You are not anonymous.
TL

 

[NoLondonBroil]

I have to say I see the kid's (Jay's) point here.

Did these trolls cross the line of decency? Absolutely. But these losers are low-hanging fruit. You have got to be a complete idiot for using an actual twitter account to do stuff like they did.

Eagle, there's no way you're going to rid the entire world of trolls and perverts. Some of these trolls and perverts gravitate towards each other and learn how to disguise their online identities.

Seriously, the amount of filth that comes out of 4chan /b will make you weep for humanity.

 

[RUinFla]

Originally posted by JayRU09:

Originally posted by MADHAT1:

Originally posted by JayRU09:

Originally posted by Eagle78:
Oh, and your comment about this just making people "hide identities", easier said than done - especially for someone with the skills, resources and motivation to identify dirtbags who engage in this behavior against a loved one.


This post was edited on 3/3 6:07 PM by Eagle78

What? No. People are very adept at hiding their real identities online. These were amateurs. If what you're saying was the case anonymous would have been completely taken down by now,

And why did Schilling and his daughter get targeted by these amateurs? Because he has a long history of poking the bear online........and costing 400 people their jobs.

Ignore and block.

Curt Schilling's business going under is poking the bear and costing 400 people their job?
Wasn't it his 38 Studio business' failure that cost those jobs.
Also him being a butt head or not doesn't excuse those tweets concurning Schilling's daughter, at least as far s I'm concerned.
There is no excuse for going after someone's son or daughter because you don't like them, even on the internet, in my opinion.
So I guess we will disagree about poster's rights on the internet.

The two statements were completely separate from each other. He is a well known fan of pissing people off online and he also ran a business into the ground costing 400 people their jobs while taking $75 million in government money despite being a so called 'small government' conservative. The internet doesn't forget stuff like that.

And there is no excuse, I'm not saying that there is. What I am saying is that you're not going to stop this stuff from happening and all Schilling did was probably make it worse for himself.

The best thing you can do for yourself online is to ignore and block people. For every one you take down five will take their place.

Jay, Schilling could give a rat's a*s about comments directed at him. But this reminds me of when Steve Kerr played for Arizona, and in a game at Arizona State, some of the students shouted comments about the killing of Kerr's father in Lebanon. They justified it by saying they were trying to throw him off his game, and you had to understand, Arizona and Arizona State really hated each other. Kerr could care less about comments and cat calls directed at him--but laughing about his father's murder? Way below the belt and over the line. If five others come after Schilling by posting crude stuff about his daughter, fine, he will take them down as well. As he should. BTW, being young gives you a higher tolerance for crude, vile comments? Oh, as long as they are not directed at your Mom, right?
TL

 

[JayRU09]

Jay, Schilling could give a rat's a*s about comments directed at him. But this reminds me of when Steve Kerr played for Arizona, and in a game at Arizona State, some of the students shouted comments about the killing of Kerr's father in Lebanon. They justified it by saying they were trying to throw him off his game, and you had to understand, Arizona and Arizona State really hated each other. Kerr could care less about comments and cat calls directed at him--but laughing about his father's murder? Way below the belt and over the line. If five others come after Schilling by posting crude stuff about his daughter, fine, he will take them down as well. As he should. BTW, being young gives you a higher tolerance for crude, vile comments? Oh, as long as they are not directed at your Mom, right?
TL

You are completely misunderstanding every single word I am saying.

 

[NoLondonBroil]

Originally posted by RUinFla:

Jay, Schilling could give a rat's a*s about comments directed at him. But this reminds me of when Steve Kerr played for Arizona, and in a game at Arizona State, some of the students shouted comments about the killing of Kerr's father in Lebanon. They justified it by saying they were trying to throw him off his game, and you had to understand, Arizona and Arizona State really hated each other. Kerr could care less about comments and cat calls directed at him--but laughing about his father's murder? Way below the belt and over the line. If five others come after Schilling by posting crude stuff about his daughter, fine, he will take them down as well. As he should. BTW, being young gives you a higher tolerance for crude, vile comments? Oh, as long as they are not directed at your Mom, right?

TL

Again, low-hanging fruit.

People that get their kicks being trolls will increase the demand for services which provide more anonymity.

Which will make those services more common.

There's a line of decency and they crossed it but this says zilcho about what the internet can do to police itself from trolls.

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

Good job by Shill shining a flashlight on these two sewer rats. Fat slob Nagel should spend more time on a treadmill and less on twitter. Haven't seen a picture of MacDonald yet

This post was edited on 3/4 7:12 AM by RUaMoose

 

[KingHigh]

In Soviet Russia, Internet surfs you.

 

[Knight_Light]

Originally posted by RCTrooper:

Originally posted by GoodOl'Rutgers:

I rather wonder if this is going to be a generational thing as successive generations have pushed the bounds of what is acceptable in public behavior.. dress, actions, speech.

The next generation has always pushed the boundaries but what seems different is the coarsening of this society in its interactions. It is occurring everywhere; not just on-line but in politics, in the streets and in the schools.

It seems that "mean-ness" is accepted and celebrated and considered clever.
This post was edited on 3/3 11:43 AM by RCTrooper

That's sad...as those 30 and under have basically been brought up in an online world (since they were 10) and yes, many considering online bullying as "funny/clever".

I'm glad those that did this have been fired from their jobs...hope others are exposed as well...as many of these comments are made while they are being "paid on the job" for their normal work.

 

[Knight_Light]

Originally posted by JayRU09:

Originally posted by Skull83:

Originally posted by JayRU09:
This is the internet. It's what the internet does. This push against anonymity is going to backfire so hard. Better to just ignore idiots like this than to make a big deal over it. Because spoiler alert: You can't win against the internet.

I think Schilling just did

For outing two people? That's great. They'll be replaced by many more who can properly mask their IPs and identities online.

I think he just changed the behavior of thousands...not just the 2 that were fired.

Every single day employees are being fired for their social media behavior, let alone tens of thousands that are never hired during the recruiting process because of what shows up in their social media profile investigations.

This was a high profile case...which is good...as it probably hit home for many...and some (not all) will change their behavior.

 

[RUChoppin]

The number of trolls who engage in this behavior is fairly small in the grand scheme of things. The number who are willing to go through all the extra effort to create dummy accounts and mask their identities is an even smaller subset of that group.

No problems at all with what Schilling did. Go after the low hanging fruit, and there will be less low hanging fruit. It won't stop the hardcore d-bags, but it may make the casual d-bags think twice.

Absolutely nothing wrong with holding people to account for things said online. If someone isn't comfortable with something they write online being front page news the next morning, they shouldn't say it - the more people get burned, the less of a "thing" it becomes, and it becomes the domain of more hardcore internet trolls.