Depressing starting all over again

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

Facing not going to a bowl, starting all over again, losing the recruiting class, the next guy building a staff are all depressing as hell. But change has to be done. The fans in the stadium tonight, the former players at their 20-year reunion, the ghosts of the team that beat the Four Horseman two out of three, they don't deserve fundamentally unsound football. And that is what this is. From the first BYU game when our QB was allowed to snap the ball with 14 seconds on the play clock while clinging to a precarious lead all the way to tonight, unsound football. Dropped passes, poorly thrown balls, missed blocks, blown up screens, bizarre play calling in some games, odd substitutions, sticking with players having difficulty. To use on of HCMR's phrases, it doesn't look like football.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

Facing not going to a bowl, starting all over again, losing the recruiting class, the next guy building a staff are all depressing as hell. But change has to be done. The fans in the stadium tonight, the former players at their 20-year reunion, the ghosts of the team that beat the Four Horseman two out of three, they don't deserve fundamentally unsound football. And that is what this is. From the first BYU game when our QB was allowed to snap the ball with 14 seconds on the play clock while clinging to a precarious lead all the way to tonight, unsound football. Dropped passes, poorly thrown balls, missed blocks, blown up screens, bizarre play calling in some games, odd substitutions, sticking with players having difficulty. To use on of HCMR's phrases, it doesn't look like football.

Starting over again is definitely going to set us back some. But, it has to be done. At this point..it’s iffy that this staff will ever win the West. That’s sad.

 

[Foosball is the devil]

Let's not be depressed. Lets look at the possibilities. The right hire is coming this time. Husker Nation deserves it and it will happen.

 

[Shimmer003]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

 

[Foosball is the devil]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

But we have to get rid of this misfit. the earlier the better

 

[Harry Caray]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

Our coach is almost 64 years old and looks like he's about 80. We'll be starting over soon regardless.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

Riley is 65 years old so let’s start with that strategy on the next coach. Even if he got it going here and that’s a HUGE if, he would be retiring soon.

 

[SnohomishRed]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

bull -we have not been firing coaches for a bad season or two we fired Callahan because he lost his team same way he lost the raiders - Pelini had plenty of time

Riley also had enough time for us to say this is not going to work - what do you suggest we accept our status as a bottom feeder?

 

[Shimmer003]

But we have to get rid of this misfit. the earlier the better

I'm torn. I see good things happening We are upgrading talent....but I'm not sure it's going to happen fast enough to sustain momentum recruiting. Idk if Riley is the right guy but I do know that firing him will put the next hire in a very tough spot as we are half way in transition to a pro style offense and 3-4 that not many other coaches will run. When you change systems every 4 years, you won't find success

 

[RChrisReade]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

. I would generally concur with this sentiment except when the coaches have not yet been great. Consistency is fabulous when consistently great. We were stable and great. We have been putrid to passable. I want Riley and his staff to bring stability and consistency because he would have built something stable. This coaching staff is not stable because it is not good enough in the results it is yielding.

 

[Shimmer003]

bull -we have not been firing coaches for a bad season or two we fired Callahan because he lost his team same way he lost the raiders - Pelini had plenty of time

Riley also had enough time for us to say this is not going to work - what do you suggest we accept our status as a bottom feeder?

Callahan fired for two bad years. Solich fired for one or two bad years. Pelini...well lots of issues. Riley will be fired after a down season in year 3. Year 3. Let that sink in. He will nevr even get his own team before we can him. That's not sustainable especially when we made whole sale system changes

 

[Shimmer003]

. I would generally concur with this sentiment except when the coaches have not yet been great. Consistency is fabulous when consistently great. We were stable and great. We have been putrid to passable. I want Riley and bring stability and consistency because he has built something stable. This coaching staff is not stable because it is not good enough in the results it is yielding.

Mike gundy was mediocre for years before finally getting OSU into the top 15 consistently. Same with Wisconsin and Barry Alvarez. The fact is that many systems work, you just have to buy in as a program and give things time to mesh and come together. Eventually, all it takes is one good year to spark a program for years

 

[SnohomishRed]

Mike gundy was mediocre for years before finally getting OSU into the top 15 consistently. Same with Wisconsin and Barry Alvarez. The fact is that many systems work, you just have to buy in as a program and give things time to mesh and come together. Eventually, all it takes is one good year to spark a program for years

Gundy has had one losing season at OSU and that was his first year Riley will now have had two losing seasons in three years

 

[cecilB]

Starting over again is definitely going to set us back some. But, it has to be done. At this point..it’s iffy that this staff will ever win the West. That’s sad.

They won't be the dominant team(whisky) or the annual legitimate factor (Iowa) until we get tougher and sounder. Our staff prefers sizzle. Wait till the weather starts to turn. Jeepers

 

[Harry Caray]

Mike gundy was mediocre for years before finally getting OSU into the top 15 consistently. Same with Wisconsin and Barry Alvarez. The fact is that many systems work, you just have to buy in as a program and give things time to mesh and come together. Eventually, all it takes is one good year to spark a program for years

Pelini got 7 long years. We kept waiting for that one big season. It never came.

 

[RChrisReade]

Mike gundy was mediocre for years before finally getting OSU into the top 15 consistently. Same with Wisconsin and Barry Alvarez. The fact is that many systems work, you just have to buy in as a program and give things time to mesh and come together. Eventually, all it takes is one good year to spark a program for years

I want Riley to succeed. I cheered for him at OSU. But it never meshed. I heard he needed Nebraska resources and support. There is no sign that it is meshing. Gundy was a native son who improved every year. I want Riley to do this same. He just is not. Next year will be worse, not better. If he pulls a rabbit out of his hat and gets commitments from Pledger and Parsons, and beats PSU for a signature upset to build upon, and beats the remainder of the West, maybe he salvages this. I want him to salvage it and give me hope. It's not the anger that will get him fired; it's the apathy.

 

[bshirt73]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

Nope.

Getting a very good HC who understands "Nebraska" could turn us around quickly.

 

[Husker Sledge]

This situation really sucks. Firing Riley after 3 years seems really quick. Also seeing players like Bookie, Moore and Williams N and Parsons, Tutt, Daniel Carson, etc likely on board makes things hard. We're just transitioning to the new 3-4 D. On the other hand getting our *** kicked every year is wearing on this fan base. Probably should give the guy a full 4 years at least. Making a coaching change this year will probably lead to worse records in the next few years than if we were to retain him. Depressing!

 

[huskerfan1414]

The further away from the game we get, the less I feel like Riley will be fired.

 

[Harry Caray]

This situation really sucks. Firing Riley after 3 years seems really quick. Also seeing players like Bookie, Moore and Williams N and Parsons, Tutt, Daniel Carson, etc likely on board makes things hard. We're just transitioning to the new 3-4 D. On the other hand getting our *** kicked every year is wearing on this fan base. Probably should give the guy a full 4 years at least. Making a coaching change this year will probably lead to worse records in the next few years than if we were to retain him. Depressing!

How many of these recruits will actually sign with us if we finish 5-7 this year? They have to know it's very unlikely that Mike Riley will be the coach here for the next 4-5 years.

 

[newAD]

Nope.

Getting a very good HC who understands "Nebraska" could turn us around quickly.

A coaching change after this year means a losing season with the schedule next year. We could easily have one without a change, but the schedule next year is a freaking buzz saw.

 

[Husker Sledge]

How many of these recruits will actually sign with us if we finish 5-7 this year? They have to know it's very unlikely that Mike Riley will be the coach here for the next 4-5 years.

They still seem pretty interested. Probably see major playing time.

 

[c2o]

Mike Gundy has a straight up fat boy mullet and I like it.

He rolls around with that on his head everyday. Then he sleeps with it.
Then he wakes up, looks in the mirror, and says to himself i'm looking good let's go.

You have to respect that.

 

[Wasker77]

Who is going to be happy if the Huskers lose the remaining games this year with the exception of Penn State? What would that win signify? That this team was able to beat one good team and underachieved in the rest? Come on. That is delusional. Mr. Riley is 64 years old. Those spots of his are set in stone.

 

[oldjar07]

Facing not going to a bowl, starting all over again, losing the recruiting class, the next guy building a staff are all depressing as hell. But change has to be done. The fans in the stadium tonight, the former players at their 20-year reunion, the ghosts of the team that beat the Four Horseman two out of three, they don't deserve fundamentally unsound football. And that is what this is. From the first BYU game when our QB was allowed to snap the ball with 14 seconds on the play clock while clinging to a precarious lead all the way to tonight, unsound football. Dropped passes, poorly thrown balls, missed blocks, blown up screens, bizarre play calling in some games, odd substitutions, sticking with players having difficulty. To use on of HCMR's phrases, it doesn't look like football.

Nah, it's a new opportunity. It's exciting if we hire the right guy. I expect things to get turned around with a new coaching staff. I was never excited about this coaching staff and was a very underwhelming hire from the start.

 

[oldjar07]

No one wants to hear this, but a new staff will only bring more set backs in the short term. That's reality at Nebraska. We always won with stability and it's what we have been lacking the last 15 years. Until we stop firing coaches for a bad season or two, we will never improve.

I don't think a new coach is going to have a setback any worse than this year, where we're likely staring at a losing season. If we keep this staff next year, we likely have a losing season next year as well. How could a coaching change be a setback?

 

[oldjar07]

A coaching change after this year means a losing season with the schedule next year. We could easily have one without a change, but the schedule next year is a freaking buzz saw.

Completely disagree. Many on here think Pelini is a mediocre coach and he went 9-4 his first year. We have talented players on this team. Bring in the right coach and I think we have an 8-4 or 9-3 type season next year.

 

[bshirt73]

I don't think a new coach is going to have a setback any worse than this year, where we're likely staring at a losing season. If we keep this staff next year, we likely have a losing season next year as well. How could a coaching change be a setback?

That's a very, very good question.

 

[bshirt73]

A coaching change after this year means a losing season with the schedule next year. We could easily have one without a change, but the schedule next year is a freaking buzz saw.

Even with the coaching change a HC who would be a good fit for NU could hardly do worse than MR.

Two losing seasons in three years.....what do we have to lose? What in the world is the upside to continue losing "and" looking like sh*t??

No, no....like Oklahoma, Alabama, etc, etc....when they were really down they didn't whine, cry, sob and give up.......and stay with their marginal coaching. Nope.....we won't either.

 

[CDMXHusker]

A coaching change after this year means a losing season with the schedule next year. We could easily have one without a change, but the schedule next year is a freaking buzz saw.

Not making a coaching change also will lead to a losing season so what's the issue?

 

[blackbones]

I would like to see a staff that's competent to have the team prepared to handle adversity for once on the last 20 years... He'll if you don't have the nuts to go to war on Saturday your behind the 8 ball to begin with. This staff can recruit for sure but I've seen a softness that isn't going anywhere with this staff at the helm. Is it going to be another setback to start over sure.. But it's gotta happen if you want championships.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

A coaching change after this year means a losing season with the schedule next year. We could easily have one without a change, but the schedule next year is a freaking buzz saw.

It is a buzz saw because NU sucks...

 

[cecilB]

So last week many thought wisky was over rated , and we were getting our sea legs after the Illinois game, and by gosh we were on top of the West....oh, and the ‘superior talent’ mantra (because of many being seduced by click bait * rankings).

Message boards never fail to disappoint.

The season may indeed end with a losing record, OSU, PSU, and probably even Iowa have better talent...one across the board, 2 others in multiple, important positions.

but perhaps a word of advice to the teeth-nashers

-take it week to week, try to find enjoyment in kids playing a game. You might get surprised
-your personal identity doesn’t need wrapped up in how kids perform on Saturday.
- it’s not an entitlement that ‘we’ are supposed to be better at football than other equally well resources,programs, that also have obnoxiously over the top facilities
- go to church this morning
- enjoy a beautiful autumn day today

It’s just a game played by kids - and I for one believe they are giving it their all....and played their best game of the year last night

 

[newAD]

Completely disagree. Many on here think Pelini is a mediocre coach and he went 9-4 his first year. We have talented players on this team. Bring in the right coach and I think we have an 8-4 or 9-3 type season next year.

Not with the schedule next year.

 

[newAD]

Not making a coaching change also will lead to a losing season so what's the issue?

You basically repeated the second part of my post. So we both agree, Nebraska is screwed next year regardless of what happens.

 

[onechase]

Facing not going to a bowl, starting all over again, losing the recruiting class, the next guy building a staff are all depressing as hell. But change has to be done. The fans in the stadium tonight, the former players at their 20-year reunion, the ghosts of the team that beat the Four Horseman two out of three, they don't deserve fundamentally unsound football. And that is what this is. From the first BYU game when our QB was allowed to snap the ball with 14 seconds on the play clock while clinging to a precarious lead all the way to tonight, unsound football. Dropped passes, poorly thrown balls, missed blocks, blown up screens, bizarre play calling in some games, odd substitutions, sticking with players having difficulty. To use on of HCMR's phrases, it doesn't look like football.

Great post. All of the above are correct from day 1. I feel the same way. Hard to start all over again but it has to be done especially after last nights game. Ohio State could be worse next week.