Southern Miss actually has a legit shot at a BCS berth. As they sit right now, 20th in the BCS, if they win out-which includes beating Houston-they could be in the top 16 in the rankings and be eligible to take the Big East's AQ spot if that conference champ doesn't finish Top16. I'm just relaying what Rece Davis said. Never heard of such, must be somekind of loophole, but nevertheless thats pretty crazy. Interesting.
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There isn't a situation where Southern would be guaranteed a BCS berth, and with a loss to Marshall, it ain't happening.
They're effectively stealing the Big East's bid. That's a huge difference. If they win out in the regular season (which they should...come on... UAB AND Memphis?) and beat Houston (or Tulsa if they happen to beat Houston), more than likely they have no other choice but to jump TCU and will have a good chance of getting in the top 16. If that were to happen... they'd make a BCS...no questions asked.
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</div><div>Big East Champ might not make it to above #16, and if Houston and Southern Miss win out and play in the C-USA title game then the winner may damn well be playing for a BCS birth.. God help us.</div>
</div><div>Big East Champ might not make it to above #16, and if Houston and Southern Miss win out and play in the C-USA title game then the winner may damn well be playing for a BCS birth.. God help us.</div>
only playing one team from a BCS conference? Pathetic. Anyway, I don't think they make it past Houston.
but I'm only talking about the situation. No where am I saying that Southern will get a BCS bid or not. I'm only saying that with the current situation, they actually have a good shot at it.
AD Richard Giannini said "If we and Houston win out to the C-USA championship, the winner gets the Sugar Bowl." USM would make the top 16 if it beat Houston, because it would win C-USA and be ranked above the Big East champion. Houston is already at 11, so it doesn't matter what the Big East champion does if they stay undefeated.</p>
They would just get one too.<div>
</div><div>That's how Boise State, Hawai'i, TCU, etc. have gotten bids.</div><div>
</div><div>I find it unlikely though. I'd think Harris/Coaches' voters would intentionally drop Southern Miss on their ballots to keep USM out of the BCS if that happened though.</div>
</div><div>That's how Boise State, Hawai'i, TCU, etc. have gotten bids.</div><div>
</div><div>I find it unlikely though. I'd think Harris/Coaches' voters would intentionally drop Southern Miss on their ballots to keep USM out of the BCS if that happened though.</div>
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I think the UAB and Memphis games won't help them either with the computer rankings. Still, I can't believe that the Coach's poll has them above Penn State, a team that has only lost to Bama and Nebraska. There is no way USM is the 20th best team in the country. TCU will probably end up getting the BCS bid if they win out.
They bring these folks on to say this to laugh at them when the lights go off. Just like the guy they had on ESPN the day of the Bama LSU game who tried to argue that Boise State was the clear #1 BCS team at the moment. Also Kellen Moore was the best QB in the country. They were all trying not to laugh while he was dead serious. <div>
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They literally would be taking away the Big East's bid. Check this out.<div>
</div><div>For those to lazy to read the document, here's an excerpt dictating this possibility:</div><div>
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</span></font></div><div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">Keep in mind though... this does not rule Boise out from getting an at large bid. However... assuming that LSU wins out, I just do not see Boise taking the at large bid away from Bama or Arkansas (assuming that LSU and Bama are not #1 and 2 respectively), the loser between OU and OSU, Stanford and even the loser between VT and Clemson assuming they meet in the ACC championship with no further losses. If the chance of a Bama/LSU rematch does indeed happen... Boise will essentially be 17ed. Arkansas will take one of the At large bids while 2 SEC schools are already in the BCSCG effectively decreasing the amount of teams from other conferences making it into a BCS game. If Boise would have a hard time getting an at large bid before, if this were to happen, there would be 0 hope.</span></font></div></div><div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">
</span></font></div><div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">So with the current state of affairs, if Southern and Houston both win out and play each other in the C-USA championship it's almost guaranteed that the winner will effectively take the Big East's BCS bid and receive AQ status. It would be harder for Southern to make it in, but they have quite a few things in their favor: #1 Being Houston is ranked 11 currently and has the possibility of jumping Boise if they beat SMU and Tulsa, #2 is that Nebraska and Michigan play each other (loser will almost assuredly drop below Southern), Kansas St plays Texas and that's a game that K State could lose (doesn't mean that Texas won't jump Southern if they do however), Georgia more than likely will lose in the SECCG, and USCe still has Clemson to play and just may lose that game too. Southern only has to move up to 4 spots, and if they win out because 2 teams will finish their season out playing superior teams, 2 others will play each other, and they will be voted ahead of Houston if they win... Southern just might be ranked as high as 14. It sucks to admit it...but they have a legitimate shot at making a BCS game.</span></font></div>
</div><div>For those to lazy to read the document, here's an excerpt dictating this possibility:</div><div>
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<div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">There's a couple of big things that people fail to note. The number 1 being is that even though these schools are from Non-AQ conferences, they can actually receive AQ status as long as they win their conference and are ranked in the top 12 of the BCS by selection (which is how Boise has been getting BCS bids this whole time). That is not the same as them picking up an at large bid which is a pretty huge difference and also why TCU and Boise both played against each other in a BCS. This more than likely rules out Boise from getting an AQ bid because their only 1 conference loss is to TCU (obviously) and TCU only has 2 more conference games to play against Colorado State and UNLV. TCU would have to lose to both of them which... let's be honest...that's not going to happen... in order for Boise to win their championship making them eligible for the AQ bid.</span></font></div><div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">
</span></font></div><div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">Keep in mind though... this does not rule Boise out from getting an at large bid. However... assuming that LSU wins out, I just do not see Boise taking the at large bid away from Bama or Arkansas (assuming that LSU and Bama are not #1 and 2 respectively), the loser between OU and OSU, Stanford and even the loser between VT and Clemson assuming they meet in the ACC championship with no further losses. If the chance of a Bama/LSU rematch does indeed happen... Boise will essentially be 17ed. Arkansas will take one of the At large bids while 2 SEC schools are already in the BCSCG effectively decreasing the amount of teams from other conferences making it into a BCS game. If Boise would have a hard time getting an at large bid before, if this were to happen, there would be 0 hope.</span></font></div></div><div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">
</span></font></div><div style="text-align: -webkit-left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;">So with the current state of affairs, if Southern and Houston both win out and play each other in the C-USA championship it's almost guaranteed that the winner will effectively take the Big East's BCS bid and receive AQ status. It would be harder for Southern to make it in, but they have quite a few things in their favor: #1 Being Houston is ranked 11 currently and has the possibility of jumping Boise if they beat SMU and Tulsa, #2 is that Nebraska and Michigan play each other (loser will almost assuredly drop below Southern), Kansas St plays Texas and that's a game that K State could lose (doesn't mean that Texas won't jump Southern if they do however), Georgia more than likely will lose in the SECCG, and USCe still has Clemson to play and just may lose that game too. Southern only has to move up to 4 spots, and if they win out because 2 teams will finish their season out playing superior teams, 2 others will play each other, and they will be voted ahead of Houston if they win... Southern just might be ranked as high as 14. It sucks to admit it...but they have a legitimate shot at making a BCS game.</span></font></div>
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</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">The Big East champ will automatically get in no matter what. The rule you stated above only states that if a CUSA, Sun Belt, MWC, champion is ranked above an AQ champ in the BCS and in the top 16, they will be awarded a BCS spot. They would essentially steal one of the at large spots, not the Big East's. Only ONE Non AQ Champ can only be taken also. Besides Houston, TCU has the best potential to grab this. I think even if Southern beats Houston (and that's if Houston can get by a very good Tulsa team), then they going to have to somehow jump TCU. I don't see the pollsters ranking USM ahead of TCU after the Hornfrogs have beaten Boise.</span></div>
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">The Big East champ will automatically get in no matter what. The rule you stated above only states that if a CUSA, Sun Belt, MWC, champion is ranked above an AQ champ in the BCS and in the top 16, they will be awarded a BCS spot. They would essentially steal one of the at large spots, not the Big East's. Only ONE Non AQ Champ can only be taken also. Besides Houston, TCU has the best potential to grab this. I think even if Southern beats Houston (and that's if Houston can get by a very good Tulsa team), then they going to have to somehow jump TCU. I don't see the pollsters ranking USM ahead of TCU after the Hornfrogs have beaten Boise.</span></div>
Whetheror not they would steal the Big East's bid isirrelevant.<div>
</div><div>If Houston wins out and USM beats them in the championship game (provided they also win out), I actually think USM could move ahead of TCU based off them coming off a win over a top 10 BCS team (Houston) and get the BCS bid. Remember, the MWC doesn't have a championship game that would give TCU a BCS boost like CUSA has. Now if Tulsa beats Houston, then I don't think USM beating Tulsa will be enough to move them ahead of TCU. So if I'm a USM fan, I'm pulling for Houston to win out.</div><div>
</div><div>I've said it before to friends and I'll say it again, USM has the easiest path to a BCS game than MSU or Ole Miss. Look at the schedule differences. MSU and Ole Miss going undefeated is MUCH less likely than USM going undefeated. I know it's CUSA, but if a CUSA team goes undefeated, they will get a BCS bid. Houston might prove that this year.</div>
</div><div>If Houston wins out and USM beats them in the championship game (provided they also win out), I actually think USM could move ahead of TCU based off them coming off a win over a top 10 BCS team (Houston) and get the BCS bid. Remember, the MWC doesn't have a championship game that would give TCU a BCS boost like CUSA has. Now if Tulsa beats Houston, then I don't think USM beating Tulsa will be enough to move them ahead of TCU. So if I'm a USM fan, I'm pulling for Houston to win out.</div><div>
</div><div>I've said it before to friends and I'll say it again, USM has the easiest path to a BCS game than MSU or Ole Miss. Look at the schedule differences. MSU and Ole Miss going undefeated is MUCH less likely than USM going undefeated. I know it's CUSA, but if a CUSA team goes undefeated, they will get a BCS bid. Houston might prove that this year.</div>
and currently this is up for interpretation until the situation comes to be we're finding so many people that's on opposite ends of this debate, but from the wording of it... it still sounds to me that in that particular instance 1 non-AQ champion team will take the AQ status of the Big East's if they aren't ranked in the top 16. Not only that, but that's pretty much what Reese Davis said. There is a chance he could be wrong too, but since that is his job to be in the know about things like that I find that possibility unlikely.
get matched up with Bama. They may not walk out of a game with them alive. It's frustrating that State has to go against the best of the best every year, and USM plays nothing but creampuffs and just might get an invite to the big party. It's the equivalent of a kid in high school that takes nothing but AP classes and does ok, only to be upped by the drooling retard that rides the short bus to school who only takes remedial classes. I'm starting to wish we would meet them in the Liberty Bowl.
It would be cool to say some school fromt this state finally made. Now whether or not I would want them to win entirely depends on who they play. Regardless folks, you got to believe this is a pretty interesting story. I mean, they do have a legit shot.</p>