Eagles 70 Carver 0

[ForsythFootball]

Hello,

Just wanted to know exactly what happened this game. Eagles had starters scoring to get them to 70 and wanna know why they pushed so hard to literally demoralize this team. I'm aware there were a lot of pick 6's but 70 seems a little overkill. I watched the Friday segment but couldn't watch the Saturday slaughterhouse.

 

[CatholicCougs14]

Starters in to get to 70? I have no issue with the score as it is not East Forsyth's job to stop themselves, but typically coaches take players out to avoid injury and such.

 

[utbb01]

We Carver had too many turnovers!! Combining both days we threw 4 pick 6's!! (Well one we tackled the defender at the 1yd line). Then we also fumbled three quartback center exchanges. We self destructed with our backup qb and didn't have anywhere to turn. However I was impressed by the accuracy and ball placement of the East qb #14. We threw well on several out routes and he maneuvered well in the pocket to find guys. It's been a tough four games for us (Dudley, West, Glenn, East) and I was impressed by Glenn's offense and Dudleys defense) West is fundamentally sound in all phases and they'll be tough to beat but I think they better watch out for Glenn!!!!

 

[scotswin]

I don't know how you get to 70 anymore with
a running 2nd half clock. The 3rd and 4th go by
in a flash, ofcourse I don't know what they had
at the half.
56 at half,, 2 td in the 3rd = 70

 

[The Lake Man]

Not a classy move but with how playoff bids are determined it somewhat promotes this junk. Not defending the EF coach but one can make an argument that the playoff format is what is wrong.

 

[bumblebee33]

Looked like Willert was trying to get the passing game some work before the bye week. Hard to do when you get 4 pick sixes and turnovers make for so many short fields. Game got out of hand quickly once resumed on Saturday. Starters needed work so they played into 3rd quarter and then backups took over. East took a knee with 4 minutes to go in the 4th. No intent to run up the score, that's never been Willert's style.

I think this is more about the problem in Forsyth County of requiring 4A schools play 2A schools due to gate money. East outscored North and Carver 112-0 the last 2 weeks. They are not that good! The small gate this mismatch brought was not worth it for Carver and definitely didn't help them improve. Hope this leads to more talks about this scheduling practice.

 

[bumblebee33]

Not a classy move but with how playoff bids are determined it somewhat promotes this junk. Not defending the EF coach but one can make an argument that the playoff format is what is wrong.

No way playoff seeding had anything to do with play calling in this one. Perfect storm of normal play that led to a very ugly score.

 

[Sportsnut17]

No way playoff seeding had anything to do with play calling in this one. Perfect storm of normal play that led to a very ugly score.

I agree, I maybe wrong but I don't think points scored has anything to do with playoff seeding.

 

[The Lake Man]

Maxpreps rankings is part of the formula. I inagine margin of victory is part of the formula.

 

[Warhead1]

It was 56-0 at halftime and like they said the East defense had 4 pick 6's and 4 or 5 fumble recoveries inside the carver 25 yard line. Coach Beal had almost all the starters out on defense to start the 3rd quarter. Don't blame Willert or East blame WSFCS for making East Forsyth play a team like Carver to keep the money in county. Carver should be playing nothing but 1a and 2a teams. East scored 2 TD in the 2nd half with running clocks and I think the East defense may of been on the field 6 plays in the 2nd half because of Carver turnovers. Carver is awful east didn't run the score up. It could've been worse but they flat out stopped running plays with 4 or 5 minutes to go. It's downright sad how far that program has fallen off in the last 5-10 years. East Forsyth offense is going to be ok and their Defense is really good.

 

[btango]

Sometimes it is better to snap the ball at the very last second of the play clock, run it every play, and stay inbounds. Punt it out of bounds. Make the clock move quickly and the score will stay much closer.

 

[utbb01]

As a Carver guy I didnt feel like East ran the score up on us. Like I said I fault us in our lack of execution overall. With our back-up qb getting his first start things got ugly with the pick 6's and the young man got very rattled. So much so that it became difficult for him to take a snap from center. Like someone stated earlier we ran 6 offensive plays in the second half. I dont care who you play, with that kind of execution you wont be in any game. I'm of a Carver mindset and excuses are never made about who we play!! No matter who we play we have to be better!!

 

[bumblebee33]

Hello,

Just wanted to know exactly what happened this game. Eagles had starters scoring to get them to 70 and wanna know why they pushed so hard to literally demoralize this team. I'm aware there were a lot of pick 6's but 70 seems a little overkill. I watched the Friday segment but couldn't watch the Saturday slaughterhouse.

Make sure you get the story before you start pointing fingers. No intent to "literally demoralize" anyone.

 

[CPC4LIFE3]

Carver has given up:
49-0 Dudley
68-6 West Forsyth ;West had'em 54-0 at Half
58-0 Glenn
70-0 East Forsyth ; had 56-0 at half

They should not have this brutal schedule and combine that with the worst Carver team in 40 years... maybe worst Carver team ever!

 

[sammyk]

The worst Carver team was 1995 they went 1-9-1 I see this team winning more than 1 game

 

[PrinceOfDudley]

The worst Carver team was 1995 they went 1-9-1 I see this team winning more than 1 game

We know what happened after that 1995 season!

 

[ForsythFootball]

I was just asking what happened, normally never see scores that high anymore come across the tv screen.

 

[ForsythFootball]

Same for west forsyth week 2 I just never saw that final score

 

[Big43]

Carver has given up:
49-0 Dudley
68-6 West Forsyth ;West had'em 54-0 at Half
58-0 Glenn
70-0 East Forsyth ; had 56-0 at half

They should not have this brutal schedule and combine that with the worst Carver team in 40 years... maybe worst Carver team ever!

Dudley was up 42 - 0 in the first qtr and only scored 49 total you can say what you want coaches have the ability to end the games if they want.

 

[Warhead1]

One thing I know about East is their defense continues to improve when everything said they should be down this year. I know it was only carver too people but I thought they were going to be way down on defense after losing so many playmakers on that side of the ball like Madison Cone and Sirod Cook. Only 30 points allowed this year and 2 of those games were against 2 top 10 teams on the road. If they want to make a run at that conference title against West Forsyth Coach Beal is going to have to have that defense firing on all cylinders.

 

[Veejay4]

Hello,

Just wanted to know exactly what happened this game. Eagles had starters scoring to get them to 70 and wanna know why they pushed so hard to literally demoralize this team. I'm aware there were a lot of pick 6's but 70 seems a little overkill. I watched the Friday segment but couldn't watch the Saturday slaughterhouse.

Starters did not play past halftime. Carver kept throwing and even our eight quarter JV kids picked off passes.

 

[Veejay4]

Looked like Willert was trying to get the passing game some work before the bye week. Hard to do when you get 4 pick sixes and turnovers make for so many short fields. Game got out of hand quickly once resumed on Saturday. Starters needed work so they played into 3rd quarter and then backups took over. East took a knee with 4 minutes to go in the 4th. No intent to run up the score, that's never been Willert's style.

I think this is more about the problem in Forsyth County of requiring 4A schools play 2A schools due to gate money. East outscored North and Carver 112-0 the last 2 weeks. They are not that good! The small gate this mismatch brought was not worth it for Carver and definitely didn't help them improve. Hope this leads to more talks about this scheduling practice.

Correct.

 

[Veejay4]

There were kids from East that didn't dress Saturday.

 

[Mr-Robinson]

70 is disrepectful. agree?

 

[bumblebee33]

70 is disrepectful. agree?

68 is ok? How about 63? 56? What number are you ok with? Willert can tell his 4th string kids to just hand the other team the ball when they get to that number from now on.

 

[Mr-Robinson]

in moment you feel self centered is moment you stop. believe a feeling comes around 35-40 points, not 70. sorry

70 means spiteful

 

[bumblebee33]

in moment you feel self centered is moment you stop. believe a feeling comes around 35-40 points, not 70. sorry

70 means spiteful

I guess we will agree to disagree kind sir. If I were a coach, I could not tell my 4th string kids who work their butt off all year to not play hard just to spare the other team's feelings. Play hard, don't intentionally run up the score, but whatever the score ends up so be it.

 

[bumblebee33]

in moment you feel self centered is moment you stop. believe a feeling comes around 35-40 points, not 70. sorry

70 means spiteful

What would you tell the players to do when you get to 35-40? Fall down? Don't tackle? Don't block? Fumble on purpose? What's your solution?

 

[Mr-Robinson]

disagree. that why you not coach though. 40-0 no more room to prove greatness. sorry

 

[BlueandGold34]

Disresptful is throwing the ball up 40 or Not going into victory formation when you should clearly do so. If you put the young kids in and are running dives and the other team just doesnt tackle that isnt an EF problem. Maybe a few more scores like this and Forsyth county will let schools like EF play actual competitve games.

 

[Mr-Robinson]

What would you tell the players to do when you get to 35-40? Fall down? Don't tackle? Don't block? Fumble on purpose? What's your solution?

im not coach and not fan of dirty lopsided numbers. one thing to run up by a lot and other to rub face of other team in it. but you right if coaches direct team not play it look unsportsmanlike and disrespectful to other team. you right though. sorry

What they doing in Carver. Not looking good. My friend live around there and say good players roam school and streets. True?

 

[Ben-Badd]

It can happen...I've caught myself pulling for the other team, hoping they do something positive and they keep shooting themselves in the foot...I seriously doubt it was intentional.

 

[BlackKnightNut]

My opinion... these are kids. I never want to run the score up on anyone, even a fierce rival. With that said, sometimes there's a snowball avalanche effect in a game and it gets out of hand no matter what you do. Pick 6's and fumbles are not a coaches fault.

Not only that, but let me play devils advocate and say that these are kids, but they have to face adversity sometime in their life. They'll get a reality check later that's way worse than losing 70-0 in a football game. I don't intentionally run it up on anyone but sometimes things just happen in a game.

 

[bumblebee33]

Hope that Carver can take something from the tough start to the season that will help them as they get into conference season.

 

[Warhead1]

My opinion... these are kids. I never want to run the score up on anyone, even a fierce rival. With that said, sometimes there's a snowball avalanche effect in a game and it gets out of hand no matter what you do. Pick 6's and fumbles are not a coaches fault.

Not only that, but let me play devils advocate and say that these are kids, but they have to face adversity sometime in their life. They'll get a reality check later that's way worse than losing 70-0 in a football game. I don't intentionally run it up on anyone but sometimes things just happen in a game.

Yes they are kids but IMO this is whats wrong with our society! We want the East kids to feel bad for playing hard and winning 70-0. Here is a big fat dose of reality. I heard from a Carver coach this year that some kids even starters skip practices and don't do what it takes to beat teams. Until they get kids to fully buy in he said they will continue to get beat like this. He said they would fix it and didn't want anyone feeling sorry for his team.

Now the East players work very hard. I've talked to their coach awhile back and he's told me they have 90+ kids in workouts as a team year round. So should we punish or make these kids feel bad for doing what is needed to be successful? Because that is what some of you are on here doing! Also, When you put in a backup lets remember this isn't a NFL backup who is bringing home a 6 or 7 figure paycheck and will gladly take knee. These 3rd and 4th string kids want to play and score just as bad as the starters do. If they work hard too they should have that opportunity to make plays just like the starters. Now if they were running fake punts onside kicks ok maybe you could say something like come on coach?. These guys didn't do that so quit your bitching about it. If you are mad call Forsyth County and tell them to let the best teams go play teams outside the County. Now that would mean teams like Prep, Carver, North would all have to go make their own money. In the end this is like I said a dose of reality. When teams or people work hard and do what they are suppose to they will have success. When others don't they lose just like in life.

 

[utbb01]

I'm not a Carver coach but I'm a diehard Carver guy!! I didn't and don't feel like the score was ran up on us. And as previously stated we don't want anyone feeling sorry for us. It was and is a wake up call for our kids and they were and are embarrassed by the score but they still have their sense of pride and self. They know that East is a better team than them right now but not by 70 points. In four lopsided games we've turned the ball over 19 times. Now maybe 2 or 3 turnovers this year were truly caused by great defensive plays but most of our wounds have been self inflicted!! The kids realize this and they know that they control that by fine tuning things in practice. The East game was a perfect storm of mistakes made by a kid playing qb for the first due to injury of the starting qb. I fully expect our kids to take the field against Parkland tomorrow or later on today and play hard. I'm not predicting victory but on our side of town we don't want pity and we will find a way!!! Whether it's this year or next or the year after that we will be back and the losses now will make us more appreciative when we get there. East fans please don't feel bad for the score of our game and matter of fact if you can just ignore anyone claiming y'all did anything wrong or disrespectful.

 

[FBCapitolofNC]

We beat Morehead 74 0 3 weeks ago. We took a knee at at half time on the 2 yd line to keep us from being up 56 0 at half. 2nd and 3rd string kids in game from mid point of 2nd quarter. Running clock 2nd half. They threw a pick 6 and couldn't stop any of guys on basic Offensive plays.
Same issue last year. Took knee at half against Cummings to prevent 72 0 at half.
What do you do? Coach Teague is the last person that purposely runs the score up.

 

[Warhead1]

Thank you utbb! In the end it is more embarrassing for a coach to start taking a knee with 5:00 plus minutes left in the game. I would rather have 70 on me then someone scoring 56 and taking a knee everytime the touched the ball so my feelings wouldnt get hurt. 100% agree with you utbb! Good luck to those young men at Carver. Need to work harder in the classroom and show up for practice. When you do all the other stuff right game day takes care of itself.

 

[Veejay4]

Wasn't intentional. Carver kept throwing the ball and the backup to the backups were getting interceptions and like was mentioned earlier with the games left these kids probably won't play much more this year. It's Carvers responsibility to put their kids in a better situation like it was for East back in the day when we got curbed stomped by Butler. We had to stop them. Willert is one of the last to intentionally run up a score.

 

[rambbq]

I was just asking what happened, normally never see scores that high anymore come across the tv screen.[/
QUOTE I've seen several scores close to that this year....
Reidsville beat Eden Morehead a few weeks ago 74-0.....and it could've easily been 100 plus...some teams are that bad and some are that good even with back-ups.........