Agree, WC and Dudley will both move up. WC population was controlled some with the new school being built. Mentioned in another thread that former 4A schools are dominating in 3A sports.
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Would venture to say that a great majority of WC families are not on the westside. WC historically got most of its students from the eastside area of town, and central Charlotte before busing issues. WC battled an image issue that is slowly but surely changing. The new school has re-energized the school pride. If the Beatties Ford Corridor gets redone and more suburban parents move in WC will actually soar higher.
-The long term issue with WC was the white students leaving, too many westside kids coming, and affluent blacks choosing MC, Vance, Hough or North over WC. Right now CMS seems to want to make Harding and West Meck their new dumping ground for low income/struggling students. Its cyclical with CMS using WC, Harding, West Meck, Garinger and POB to dump low performing students and keep the southside corridor schools intact.
Based on the "business" that's coming to KM, you can expect them to move up also, depending on how many families are drawn near there. Not sure if that will expend into the rest of Clueless County.
It’s hard to say. I think KM may move up at some point but KM has a pretty unique situation. Multiple parts of KM city limits runs into other counties or overlaps with other school districts. Different parts of KM are in Gaston County with some overlapping parts reaching into two South Carolina counties. Bessemer City and Hunter Huss have KM kids because they live in the Gaston County section of the city of KM. York High School in SC and Blacksburg High school in SC have some overlapping district lines with KM. Cherryville, Crest, Shelby, and Burns all share some overlapping school boundaries with KM. I grew up in KM and to this day I do not understand how the Moss Lake area of Cleveland County is districted for Cleveland County schools lol. A big part of how much and fast KM will grow depends on which area people move into and if school boundaries change or don’t change. The city of KM population can grow exponentially but school growth can be slower because the growth may be in KM areas that do not attend KM. Hope that makes sense lol.
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Both KM and Crest are expected to be in the 5A in one of the newest proposals for 2025.
Also I know at one point, Forestview also got kids from KM(hilltop,crowders mountain area), never heard of Huss getting any KM people.
The old 3 county school system set the moss lake/light oak area up like that. Shelby stayed straight city limits, KM took in most KM addresses and Grover area and the rest was county schools.
I think a lot of growth will be inside the city limits. LGI already has more land for their next community, and at least 2 more developers eyeing major builds. The other big projects will be the west gastonia project off 74 below crowders mountain and the old golf course on crowders mountain that would feed Huss and BC.
The 5A is only because of the seven classifications and not totally due to enrollment numbers. Kids from the Hilltop area all use to go to Huss. I had relatives in the Hilltop area of KM who attended Southwest Middle and then HH afterwards. Northwoods and surrounding neighborhoods switched from KM to Bessemer City. Both of those are KM addresses but are in Gaston County school districts now. Also Crest gets a lot of kids in Shelby city limits. There are kids who practically can walk to Shelby that are districted for Crest. My family owned some land over in the Crowders Mtn area and developers were buying up everything they could grab in that area about ten years ago.
Yeah, the 5a because of new classes, I was just saying they would remain in same class as Crest.
Ok. The ones I knew from hilltop went to Forestview. Maybe they changed the zone to Huss at some point. I have plenty of 1st hand knowledge of how that particular Gaston County area of KM (Northwoods) and the effects that change made. Very negative trickle down effect. Also, most of the neighborhoods that Crest got that are in walking distance to Shelby are/where not inside the city limits. They may have done ETJ now but years ago,those paths kids could take to Shelby was actually outside of the city limits,therefore putting them in County schools.
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Okay gotcha. Hilltop was Huss for years before there ever was a FV. FV must have gotten the Hilltop kids when GC redistricted their school lines in the early 2000’s. That really hurt Huss during the Gardner years. Huss also had kids within walking district of Huss that were assigned to FV. FV benefitted tremendously athletically for awhile from that.
Yep I grew up in Northwoods back in the day and it is definitely not the same neighborhood. I feel bad for all the old timers who still own their homes there. A lot definitely happened with that change.
Adding a skill position stud always help but that isn’t a position of need from what I was told. I may be wrong but I am hearing that Dudley is extremely deep at the skill positions but both lines need help. Depth is non-existent. New3ra what is your insight about this?
I would say I agree, that’s the only question mark.
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None of this rank matters. 3a is loaded
West has about 5 teams that can compete for the title same in the east. See you guys in November
West has about 5 teams that can compete for the title same in the east. See you guys in November
Honestly, this year the top 3-4 teams in the west would beat the top team in the East.
Could be true but I doubt it just depends on what teams are playing because not every top team in the east plays the same way
Comes down to turn overs and penalties and key stops when top teams are playing no matter where they are from
Oh yeah of course, I’m just going based off rosters at this point and what I’ve seen. It’s still way too early to tell until pads get put on. You’re right about which teams play because it’s all about matchups at the end of the day.
Heard Southern Durham will be a problem in the East this year. Got a few transfers from hillside and then the big time 4*DL.
KM has just as much as Crest has coming back. KM basically has 3 Head Coaches so that learning curve should be smooth
I agree, both teams loaded and wouldn’t be surprised if either team wins when they play.
Heard Southern Durham will be a problem in the East this year. Got a few transfers from hillside and then the big time 4*DL.
Definitely should be an interesting game. Crest has multiple offensive skill guys racking up college offers and KM has multiple defensive kids pulling in college offers. We may end up with the ole school unstoppable force meets the immovable object lol.
They was gonna be good even without the transfers so you heard correct they wasn’t bad last year had good size and speed they just didn’t have good ball security and disciplineHeard Southern Durham will be a problem in the East this year. Got a few transfers from hillside and then the big time 4*DL.
How y’all looking this year?But I’m not worried about southern durham lol we play the best d linemen in the state the past 2 years from new bern I’m sure we will be fine at havelock
We lost bout 4-5 key players on both sides of the ball but we had a undefeated jv and we also bringing back a lot of key players also who were sophomores two being running backs one wr
On offense we lost of course Frazier of course our 4star wr another good wr and a great TE
Defense a great line backer our defensive end I believe two good secondary players
But we have alot of talent who played varsity and did well in the time they played some actually who played better on varsity than they did on jv I think havelock has a shot to be contenders they will be better than average but not really sure competing for a title we will have to see they will be young with mainly sophomores and juniors some seniors
I still wouldn’t be shocked if y’all figured it out and made it out the East or a deep run.
We're going to find out real quick how good both our teams are when Scotland/Southern Durham hookup on 8/8. Should be a fun one
Now that some of the transfers and other player movements have mostly shaken out the pre-season rankings will probably need to be revised. My top six in no particular order are West Charlotte, Southern Durham, AC Reynolds, Crest, Kings Mountain, and Dudley. 3A West is going to be insane in the playoffs. Southern Durham is my odds on favorite to come out of the East.