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fishingcowbell
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would be:
1. Bammer
2. LSU
3. Auburn
4. State- has to beat Auburn and Jawja at home...and finally good enough to possibly pull it off
5. UPig- has Bammer at home and will lose all 4 SEC road games- Jawja, Auburn, SC, and State
6. Mississippi- will be solid, just in a helluva division
1. Bammer
2. LSU
3. Auburn
4. State- has to beat Auburn and Jawja at home...and finally good enough to possibly pull it off
5. UPig- has Bammer at home and will lose all 4 SEC road games- Jawja, Auburn, SC, and State
6. Mississippi- will be solid, just in a helluva division
If Petrino can find anyone to tackle.<div>
</div><div>Their offense should be ridiculous next year, and I think all of their road games are winnable. </div><div>
</div><div>If they can't do better than 4-4 with Mallet and all of the WR's he has coming back, Petrino better start looking to jump ship.</div><div>
</div><div>Im interested to see what MSU does this year, because I have no clue, same with OM. There are so many toss up games in the SEC this year, as opposed to guaranteed losses for both schools.</div><div>
</div><div>For OM the only guaranteed losses I see are UPIG and Bama. For MSU I only see Bama, and FL, I would put LSU there based on history, but Miles is the great equalizer.</div><div>
</div><div>So with 6 games up for grabs, there is no telling how the season will unfold.</div>
</div><div>Their offense should be ridiculous next year, and I think all of their road games are winnable. </div><div>
</div><div>If they can't do better than 4-4 with Mallet and all of the WR's he has coming back, Petrino better start looking to jump ship.</div><div>
</div><div>Im interested to see what MSU does this year, because I have no clue, same with OM. There are so many toss up games in the SEC this year, as opposed to guaranteed losses for both schools.</div><div>
</div><div>For OM the only guaranteed losses I see are UPIG and Bama. For MSU I only see Bama, and FL, I would put LSU there based on history, but Miles is the great equalizer.</div><div>
</div><div>So with 6 games up for grabs, there is no telling how the season will unfold.</div>
football that we would not be in the top half in next year. The Big 12 South, and, unfortunately, the SEC West.
The Pigs are talking about winning the SEC....not the west....but the SEC and playing for a NC. That is how high they are on Mallet, Petrino, and that offense. If they were to lose even 3, I bet their fans raise hell.
I think they are correct in their assessment of that offense. We will need to score 50 to beat them. However, other teams may very well hold that offense in check. We will see.
I think they are correct in their assessment of that offense. We will need to score 50 to beat them. However, other teams may very well hold that offense in check. We will see.
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That's your typical Arkansas response. I'm anxious for this year because I don't see them meeting the expectations of the lunatic fringe, which will be an SEC title at minimum. They really do have some crazies.
Anyone paying attention sees that Arkansas is on the rise, picking them 5th is just dumb. They return 18 starters, and if Petrino isn't the 2nd best coach in the league, he's 3rd. If nothing else, he's the best offensive mind in the league, and they could've easily beaten UF, UGA, and LSU last year.
Auburn returns 15 starters and will be better, but QB is an unknown for them so it's hard to put them above LSU or Arky, plus Arky dominated them last year. Also, it seemed that the league started to catch on to Malzahn a little more as the season went on.
I think the article had it dead on, maybe swap MSU and OM, and possibly swap LSU and Auburn if Newton is as good of a run/pass threat as they think (not sure he's as good of a pure passer as people want to make him out to be though)
Auburn returns 15 starters and will be better, but QB is an unknown for them so it's hard to put them above LSU or Arky, plus Arky dominated them last year. Also, it seemed that the league started to catch on to Malzahn a little more as the season went on.
I think the article had it dead on, maybe swap MSU and OM, and possibly swap LSU and Auburn if Newton is as good of a run/pass threat as they think (not sure he's as good of a pure passer as people want to make him out to be though)
somebody has to finish 5th...and early I'm calling UPig (my official picks dont come out till July)
Why UPig?? UPig has a tough early game with Bammer...plus they play all their toss-up games on the road- Auburn, Jawja, SC, and State...they will lose at least 2 of those, if not 3...they could EASILY start the SEC 0-3 with @Jawja, Bammer, and @Auburn
Are they going to be good? Yes. But damn, Mississippi ain't going to be bad and they are going to finish 6th. I could see Mississippi starting the season 5-0.
The West is full of badasses now, with us even likely headed to a decent bowl this season.
Why UPig?? UPig has a tough early game with Bammer...plus they play all their toss-up games on the road- Auburn, Jawja, SC, and State...they will lose at least 2 of those, if not 3...they could EASILY start the SEC 0-3 with @Jawja, Bammer, and @Auburn
Are they going to be good? Yes. But damn, Mississippi ain't going to be bad and they are going to finish 6th. I could see Mississippi starting the season 5-0.
The West is full of badasses now, with us even likely headed to a decent bowl this season.
and I think that's about right. OM's a wild card given the strength on the DL. Could slip up and win a game they shouldn't.
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Goat Dawg
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Flip the Mississippi Rebels and the M State Dogs and that's about right. Arky was getting better last year and their QB is phenomenal. LSU and Auburn may be a tossup for 3 & 4.
No way anybody should pick Ole Miss over State. Our OL will be better. Our DL could be the 1st or 2nd best in the SEC. The secondary and linebackers are solid. The QB position has to be better than last year. The WRs are back. Picking MSU last is a lazy pick that says "they're always last and they lost a ball-buster RB".
Meanwhile, the Rebels are losing a ton of talent. And a ton of average talent. And their best WR is a cancer that's not allowed in spring practice.
No way anybody should pick Ole Miss over State. Our OL will be better. Our DL could be the 1st or 2nd best in the SEC. The secondary and linebackers are solid. The QB position has to be better than last year. The WRs are back. Picking MSU last is a lazy pick that says "they're always last and they lost a ball-buster RB".
Meanwhile, the Rebels are losing a ton of talent. And a ton of average talent. And their best WR is a cancer that's not allowed in spring practice.
If you honest to God think that you will have the 1st or 2nd best defensive line in the SEC next year then you are retarded! Bama's DL is sick, Georgia returns a ton of talent, LSU is always strong and Florida is always loaded. McPhee and Cox are awesome but outside of them you are average at best as far as the SEC goes.FlabLoser said:
By the look of the thread, it was to me, but I didn't say Arkansas would finish last. This is all very confusing.
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Goat Dawg
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I think the West will absolutely dominate this year. Yes, I know many will disagree on here, but this is what I'm predicting:
1. Arky - their offense will be crazy hard to stop- by anybody.
2. State - I think we surprise many
3. Bama - Their offense will still be stout, but they've lost nearly every defensive starter. I don't think we'll beat them, but I think others will.
4. Auburn - Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde aGAIN
5. LSU - Mad Hatter cannot coach and he's gone after this year
6. OM - Lost everyone meaningful from last year's team. It'll be tough for them next year.
1. Arky - their offense will be crazy hard to stop- by anybody.
2. State - I think we surprise many
3. Bama - Their offense will still be stout, but they've lost nearly every defensive starter. I don't think we'll beat them, but I think others will.
4. Auburn - Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde aGAIN
5. LSU - Mad Hatter cannot coach and he's gone after this year
6. OM - Lost everyone meaningful from last year's team. It'll be tough for them next year.
I'm not holding Bama in such high regards this year. I don't look for them to get much better on offense, although they will still be good. But their biggest strength last year, the D, will be incredibly impacted by the departure of their entire starting lineup. I've argued this many times already this year to my buddies; they think I'm crazy, but I've got to call it as I see it. I'm not saying they won't be good. The West is slammed full of talented this year. You cannot tell me that this couldn't be a possibility.
I'm just telling you now, picking Arkansas 5th is just dumb, so you might ought to think it over before your "official picks," as if that's what we're all waiting for and if anyone on here gives a damn.
Why Ark? They've got the best QB, the best overall offensive coach, and were really young on defense. If they can stop anyone they'll be tough to deal with. I could see them being favored in all 4 of those road games. We just don't know about Auburn yet without seeing their QB, Arky should beat USC, I feel really confident that they'll win in Starkville, and UGA seems to be on a slight decline and is breaking in a new QB. I see Richt fading a little kind of like Spurrier. I see Arkansas at 5-3 or 6-2 even, with an outside shot to win the West. They get Bama early when they're breaking in all the new defensive starters, so that's a possible upset even though I think Bama's OL will dominate the LOS.
Why Ark? They've got the best QB, the best overall offensive coach, and were really young on defense. If they can stop anyone they'll be tough to deal with. I could see them being favored in all 4 of those road games. We just don't know about Auburn yet without seeing their QB, Arky should beat USC, I feel really confident that they'll win in Starkville, and UGA seems to be on a slight decline and is breaking in a new QB. I see Richt fading a little kind of like Spurrier. I see Arkansas at 5-3 or 6-2 even, with an outside shot to win the West. They get Bama early when they're breaking in all the new defensive starters, so that's a possible upset even though I think Bama's OL will dominate the LOS.
but doubt any more than that. So at 6-2 in the SEC, that would make them no worse than 2nd...Defense is much easier to replace than offense, especially when you have top 5 recruiting classes and the best defensive coach in college football...They won't be as good defensively, but that doesnt mean they wont still be damn good
I think you are going to see more parity and also to me, there are more games up for grabs than it has been in a long, long time. But when it is all said and done, dont be surprised if Bammer wins the West with a 6-2 record, while last in the West is 3-5.
The SEC is way too balanced, and there will be no BCS title game for the SEC champ in 2010
I think you are going to see more parity and also to me, there are more games up for grabs than it has been in a long, long time. But when it is all said and done, dont be surprised if Bammer wins the West with a 6-2 record, while last in the West is 3-5.
The SEC is way too balanced, and there will be no BCS title game for the SEC champ in 2010
We have an all-conference end in McPhee, 3 ready to play, big, physical, mean DT's in Cox,Boyd, and Carmon, some guys with some experience on the other end in Bell, Ferg, and Stigers along with a few pass-rushing specialists in D.Jones and maybe, maybe McCardell. Thats some serious talent and size. I don't know any other team outside of UF that is going to put the kind of size at defensive line like we are. I haven't even mentioned McKenzie who, by all accounts, is the next Jared Allen. I kid, but they do say he has a helluva motor and I've saw him play on the scout team last year and 17 **** up for our starting OL all day, and now he has added more size and strength. The teams in the top 1/3 to me are gonna be Mississippi, UF, Bama, and us. Bama has a lot of talent on that line, but it is almost all unproven other than Dareus. They are replacing 3 starters, which might not mean **** the way Saban recruits, but right now, we have more proven d-lineman than they do. Same with UF, they lost Dunlap and Cunningham, but they are just gonna reload on the ends and they bring back all of their 2 deep at the DT spot. They are probably my number 1 d-line, us second, OM-3rd, and Bama 4th.
As for the UPig discussion, their offense is gonna be ridiculous, but since Petrino has been there thats all hes recruited to bc thats what their fans wanted when Nutt left, some points. They can't stop ****, they have practically the same D that Crooms offense hung 40 on 2 years ago minus Malcolm Sheppard-far and away their best player. And Petrino is not even in the top half as far as coaching in this league to me, maybe offensively minded coaches, but not overall, he hasn't proven **** to me in the SEC yet.
As for the UPig discussion, their offense is gonna be ridiculous, but since Petrino has been there thats all hes recruited to bc thats what their fans wanted when Nutt left, some points. They can't stop ****, they have practically the same D that Crooms offense hung 40 on 2 years ago minus Malcolm Sheppard-far and away their best player. And Petrino is not even in the top half as far as coaching in this league to me, maybe offensively minded coaches, but not overall, he hasn't proven **** to me in the SEC yet.
and they may not finish 5th, I havent sat down and studied everybody yet before I do my annual Coach's prediction.
Best QB?? yeah, I'll agree
Best offensive coach? maybe
Really young on defense? they have been the last 2 years. Nobody on their defense stands out and won't in 2010
If they can stop anyone? Won't be Bammer and other teams that can run the football well.
Road games? They won't be favored over Auburn or Jawja (which are very tough places to play), and I dont think they will beat us with so much on the line and our loudass crowd...even SC is supposed to have the best D they have had in awhile, plus they have to deal with the Wild Cock.
The best UPig does in 2010 is 4-4 in the SEC because of their soft coach and soft defense
Best QB?? yeah, I'll agree
Best offensive coach? maybe
Really young on defense? they have been the last 2 years. Nobody on their defense stands out and won't in 2010
If they can stop anyone? Won't be Bammer and other teams that can run the football well.
Road games? They won't be favored over Auburn or Jawja (which are very tough places to play), and I dont think they will beat us with so much on the line and our loudass crowd...even SC is supposed to have the best D they have had in awhile, plus they have to deal with the Wild Cock.
The best UPig does in 2010 is 4-4 in the SEC because of their soft coach and soft defense
Petrino not in the top half of the league? I knew you were a dumb son of a *****, but not that dumb. His offensive prowess is a given, but how many SEC coaches do you remember being courted that heavily by other SEC programs and multiple NFL teams?
I realize the games were in Arkansas last year, but they completely dominated Auburn and handled USC pretty easily, not to mention us. If you watched those game you'd have a hard time not putting them as the favorites.
Who by the way is steadily moving down the list as far as SEC coaches go. I mean Petrino got beat by Croom 2 years ago and you are defending him? Maybe if our '07 team beat themif Petrino was there but not '08. We were laughable that year. We scored 2 vs. Aub and 40 17'in points against them, and they still aren't any better defensively. As much as people hype up our league, it really is a farm league for the NFL, and as in the NFL, defense wins games. Same applies here. The last 5 or so years, go look at the defenses on the teams that won the league or even a dvision-they're unreal. I haven't researched this but I would guess there hasn't been a league winner in the past 5 years that has given up more than 15 pts a game. You think they are gonna hold anybody under fifteen? Twenty? I'll be shocked if their league scoring avg. is below 20. They don't have any players. Jake Bequette? Give me a break. They lost the only sob that could actually impact a game when Sheppard graduated.
