I don’t disagree things can happen. I am beyond happy with how we played this year. I hope we get another win or 2, I just think it is going to be very hard and don’t want what the guys did this season to be diminished if we don’t.
EDIT: Losing because of Wimsatt
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if the play calling wins games, that play calling is hard to criticize.
As player strive to become better at their position, coaches usually try to maximize their strengths will minimizing what they haven't mastered, yet, when making a game-plan.
If that is working nicely, why fix what's not broken.
Today the passing game wasn't needed and Gavin had a good day.
All this Gavin can't, Schiano isn't and KC's band isn't all sunshine looks like some are trying to turn a great win into a whining about how RU won and claiming it's not good enough to win another game this season .
A defeatist attitude after a win is all that shows, like wanting to enjoy a loss instead of celebrating a great victory thought not possible before the season began
Why does he have to keep his mouth shut this is a message board right If you think he is wrong debate him. I'm tired of people saying 19 yr old that has nothing to do with anything. We've gotten our asses kicked by many true freshmen who were backups to the backup. GW has been in the program almost 3 full years...granted with 2 awful OC's. He's a great kid and growing as a leader and leading us to 1st bowl game in 10 yrs (real bowl game) but that's what he was brought here to do like the rest of the players who are here. His passing needs to get much better
I just don’t get it why people don’t wait until the game is over to post messages like yours. Every single week it makes people look so dumb. Why not keep quiet and let people think you don’t know what you’re talking about rather than open your mouth and confirm it?
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The message should be more of a good game Gavin instead this former Rutgers player is knocking this player after a solid win …. Not going to waste time but criticize when he plays poorly and we lose not after a game such as today especially “ a former player” at Rutgers.
man if you guys think other schools fans that are ranked don't ever complain about underachieving, you are living in a bubble. It's not unique to rutgers and it isn't our job to baby players that are paid as semi pro athletes. The scholar athlete model is long gone.
Gw did a great job today with his running. That one cut was amazing for a qb. He made some big plays and he seems like a great guy. Clearly his teammates like him which is an important intangible. His passing numbers are bad though. Passionate fans aren't wrong or even negative to discuss it.
When defenses sell out to stop the run the offense will have to pass. I'm hoping GW and the rest of the offense can put it together and surprise everyone befioe the end of the season but oretending we pass for under 50 yards with sub 50% accuracy because of the gameplan is dishonest. If true, it tells us the coaches think GW is a liability as well. I don't believe they think that and rather adapt to what's happening on the field.
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Gw did a great job today with his running. That one cut was amazing for a qb. He made some big plays and he seems like a great guy. Clearly his teammates like him which is an important intangible. His passing numbers are bad though. Passionate fans aren't wrong or even negative to discuss it.
When defenses sell out to stop the run the offense will have to pass. I'm hoping GW and the rest of the offense can put it together and surprise everyone befioe the end of the season but oretending we pass for under 50 yards with sub 50% accuracy because of the gameplan is dishonest. If true, it tells us the coaches think GW is a liability as well. I don't believe they think that and rather adapt to what's happening on the field.
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For the record I said 7wins this year before the season started.
Great day running for sure but anyone that does understand 39yds passing is awful come on you need to get a grip. We are not running a wishbone. Granted the gameplan going in was to run mission accomplished. Our offense needs to be balanced.
Thrilled we're getting back to a bowl and the ground and pound game plan has served us well to get us there. But we haven't played a team with a winning record yet. (NW could get there today.) We're going to need to throw the ball a little bit to beat anyone remaining on the schedule. We could have beaten Wisconsin with any semblance of a functional passing game. I don't think anyone is talking about an air raid offense, but man, if your go to play on 3rd and 7 is a QB run, that speaks volumes about the staffs confidence in the QB. It would be nice to have a somewhat reasonable chance of picking up a 3rd and medium through the air. Until we can, the rest of the teams we play are gonna feast. I hope GW figures it out. Because we could be legit good if he does. But not seeing it yet.
Ya know, arguably the turning point of the game was a Wimsatt pass - the fourth down completion to Dremel early 3Q at 17-14.
Nobody is complaining about you. But yes I think people should be able to vent criticism when it’s warranted. In todays case of bad mouthing Gavin… he should keep his yap shut.
I wouldn't call it a turning point play because we were leading, but that was possibly the most important play of the day, at least by our offense. Definitely up there with the blocked punt TD.
FIFY
While I'm not enamored with Gavin's passing the assertion that they are winning despite him shows a relatively low IQ on your part.
The difference is that Gavin can still be fixed, you on the other hand.................well mama says if you have nothing nice to say.....
Man you're having a really bad day, Gavin was the '22 QB then decided in late August to follow the Ewer's lead and enroll early to collect NIL.
Now tell us where was this '22 QB coming from when the '22 QB reclassified to '21 6 months after signing day?
It will take you a long time to figure this one out. So I'll wait.
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Savage and Nova were way better.
Easily one of the worst posts of the year.Congratulations for winning this week’s mid-game idiotic post award
He could have been practice player. My right is to say being a high OC means absolutely nothing.
If you played at RU prior to 2006, outside a handful of years in the high level D1 era, your RU team probably sucked. You’d give your left nut for the opportunity to play on a RU team playing in the B10 with six wins in the third week of October, bowl qualified with four games left in the season.
Enjoy the season. Gavin is better than 95% of the qbs that have ever played at RU as a 19 yr old.
GO RU
Well said and for this posters info I have known many , many Rutgers players and in multiple sports. Criticize when it’s due.
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This is why there shouldn't be a free board, you got people here masquerading as RU fans and visiting fans see this instead of the premium conversations.
Sorry not sorry to anyone offended by this comment. Too much trash on this free board.
What drives a person to post that dribble while RU is playing a great all around game. Such a douche move.
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I don't like the thread title or the OP's tone either, but . . . Don't you think it's legitimate, even when your team wins, to criticize a QB who was 5 for 12 for 39 yards? Yes, Wimsatt scored three touchdowns, and yes, he did lead the team in rushing, but wouldn't you agree that we're going to have trouble against better Big Ten teams if we can't improve our passing game? (BTW, I worry about relying on a QB to run -- QBs are not as big as running backs, and it's easier to replace a dinged running back than a QB.)
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how about a good tight end? Kid needs a Clark Harris. We are 6-2. Be happy.
Why attack a former player over his opinion? A very accurate and obvious critique. We have beaten 5 teams with a record of 12-23 2 of which did not have a head coach and Wagner. Our offense is ranked 121 out of 131 teams because Gavin is limited right now and makes us one dimensional. That’s not bashing his school but providing an honest fair critique. The big ten is having a very big down year and the west is unwatchable.
A former player can be happy for the program and still be honest what everyone who actually understands football sees. So relax and thank our former players for all they have done.
agree about easier to replace a RB starter than the starting QB
but Gavin's listed as 6-3 / 225, so he shouldn't be easily dinged , but over use could do that.
Now a days a lot of QBs run as well as pass ,si using Wimsatt as a runner isn't an exception to the rule.
When the running game is winning the game , no need to have a passing attack.
But know Gavin needs work on his passing so not surprised RU goes to the running game mostly and it's passing game is more for emergency .
That brought bowl eligibility, so it seems to be the best way to play this year.
Next year the OL and QB will make the passing game more involved and the WR will be able to separate so they are open targets and Gavin has the time to find them.
I can understand not liking the way passing game looks, but hard to agree with after a big win like this that type of complaint helps enjoying the win.
Sometimes waiting a day to complain makes or more agreeing than STFUs. because someone feels the complaint only distracts from enjoying the win
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We have a rough few games ahead of us. I am sure GW will also have some bumps along the way. But, I have enjoyed almost every game so far.
We are somehow 3-2 in the B1G 3-0 OOC which included another P5 and a G5. We are something like the 4th highest scoring team in the B1G and one of the toughest defenses in the nation.
We are scoring just over 28 pts a game and giving un just under 16.
We are not 6-2 and have all of the above with any of the other QB's on the roster this year.
And if anyone told you that 8 games into the season we would have 6 wins and be the 4th highest scoring team in the B1G- you all would have laughed.
We are somehow 3-2 in the B1G 3-0 OOC which included another P5 and a G5. We are something like the 4th highest scoring team in the B1G and one of the toughest defenses in the nation.
We are scoring just over 28 pts a game and giving un just under 16.
We are not 6-2 and have all of the above with any of the other QB's on the roster this year.
And if anyone told you that 8 games into the season we would have 6 wins and be the 4th highest scoring team in the B1G- you all would have laughed.
In a word- no.
Sick and tired of the whining and crying, especially after the last 8 years. Enjoy the moment.
First time I've heard him say he's a former player and I'm not sure I believe it.
i thought it was a twenty way tie.Congratulations for winning this week’s mid-game idiotic post award
Do you live in an alternate universe? Touch: two great touch throws last week, one of which went for a touchdown. No arm strength/no zip? Funny how announcers have consistently commented that he needs to soften up the short throws. And sailing balls over the receiver is not a sign of a weak arm. You are an idiot.
You do realize every boards fans trash their players & coaches. This is not unique to RU. Do you guys even read what you type
Fan short for fanatic. Just so you know if anyone didnt come here as a non paying person there would be ZERO payers. If you do not like someone has posted you can just disregard it and move on
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Really? It's part of being a sports fan to worry about the next game or the next month, and to point to what needs to be improved. I think it's more a matter of tone than substance.
Agreed equally as frustrating is listening to the fanatics who bow at the alter of Greg and believe we play perfect ball and should be a ranked team. At least pretend you watch football and can be somewhat objective. Good year against an awful easy schedule to date. Greg deserves credit for making the team sound. Far from great but room to grow . Context ppl and respect all
So many people can’t find the way to enjoy what has happened over the first 8 games of the season, they have to find the cloud for every silver lining.
I'm not going to argue about it. I have my view of the game, you can have yours. Whine away with the other whiners. It's endemic with a segment of our fanbase. I will choose to celebrate. Look around the B1G today- there were equal to worse QB performances. Maybe our fans should take the rods out of their own eyes. . . . .
Stop. Starting a dud of a thread right after the biggest win for the Rutgers program in the last nine years is being a knob, especially for a former player which makes it worse. We have two weeks to discuss the production or lack thereof of the passing game before next game.
GO RU
That's dead wrong.
I, and others, complained often about Vedral (no one complained about his heart.. just his arm) and I felt forced to defend Sitkowski (who could make all the throws and stepped into throws where he knew he'd get hit.. hard).
I think Wimsatt is an odd case. I saw two different and good things from him today (in addition to the bad things recording timing and accuracy and not looking off defenders).
1) a sense of urgency when it was time to evade pressure.. in past games it looked like he aimed to get just enough room to safely throw it away. The next step from him is to evade to find an open man.. but that requires being able to look around at more than one target (yeah, that's a criticism tossed in there.. but a JUST criticism).
2) Finally, finally finally we saw him play-action to Monangai and bootleg.. TD. That play has been available ever since Monangai went nuts running the ball. And Wimsatt committed to it and used his long legs well.. even had a nice cut to free himself early. That was all him. Sometimes on that boot you see an OT or TE slip out to block some pursuer down the line... but Wimsatt had to fake that one guy and he did so.
I think Wimsatt may actually be better throwing on the run.. so if he begins to evade a rush to find an open receiver (or run).. he will pressure defenses like some of the great QBs we see. If he can hit those receivers, he will be great.