Egg Bowl

[AceD3]

Since the advent of the SEC 76 years ago, Ole Miss is 32-38 against LSU for a .457 winning percentage.

Since the advent of the SEC 76 years ago, MSU is 22-49-2 against Ole Miss for a .301 winning percentage.

And you guys wonder why many Ole Miss fans consider the Tigers as more of a rival? It's been practically an even series since the SEC began while you guys have been losing 70% of the time.

Ole Miss is clearly an average SEC program. Statistically we are similiar to Arkansas w/ a bit better performance in most categories since they arrived in the SEC. There are several other average SEC programs- SC being an annual contestant of late- and programs that move up (UK) or move down (AU) into the 2nd tier during given time periods. MSU has visited themselves. What is beyond contest, however, is that the OM and Arkansas' of the world are clearly consistently performing at a higher clip than the MSU's, UK's, and Vandy's, those schools who in the past 30 years have been in the bottom third of SEC teams almost 2/3rd (or more) of their seasons.

That's incredible ineptitude that deserves it's own category, much like the sustained success of some programs carves out their niche at the top.

 

[KurtRambis4]

program is a joke. Sorry to inform you.

 

[VirgilCain]

why must it be repeated so much? It has already lost any sting that it may have had. Who gives a **** about LSU right now?

 

[AceD3]

anyone of anything, as I'm pretty sure most folks know that's your opinion and where your loyalties lie.

The problem is that it's merely opinion, and matters very little (as in nothing).

But thanks for voicing your opinion, to remove any doubt as to what you feel about your "joke" of a rival....

 

[VirgilCain]

The problem is that it's merely opinion, and matters very little (as in nothing).

Kurt you better keep your head on a swivel, this guy is good

 

[spacecataz]

Ole Miss is clearly an average SEC program.

Yeah, so average that they can't even buy their way into the Georgia Dome.

Look, outside of Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, and yes, perhaps us, there's not a single SEC school who would currently trade their football program for yours - and there's absolutley nothing in that statement to be proud of. Personally, I like being able to say that we've at least clinched the West.

Christ, man. We're both a big steaming pile of ****. We just happen to be a slightly bigger pile, I'll give you that.

 

[KurtRambis4]

if you think it's anything but a joke, then your and dubmass *****. My loyalties are not the reason I know it's a joke. The last 20+ years are. I'm not arguing that MSU is badass and yall suck. Anyone with a brain knows we both suck.

 

[AceD3]

In the past 20 years, we've been to 3 NYD Bowl games (with a pretty good shot to make it 4 this season), which is more than you've been to in your entire history. We've been to 10 bowls in the 17 years in that span when we weren't on probation, and were eligible to go bowling in 12 of those 17 years.

In just the past 20 years, we've finished nationally ranked more times than SC, MSU, UK, and Vandy- the true bottom feeders of the SEC- have COMBINED.

I could go on and on, but I don't have to. Your opinion may be that we are a joke, but you can't factually support it. I can factually support that MSU is far inferior to whatever moniker you want to attach to OM. My opinion isn't nearly as harsh, you aren't quite as bad as Vandy and UK, which I would label as jokes.

But you are a far cry from OM. Closer to Arkansas, in fact.

 

[KurtRambis4]

not too good at reading comprehension, huh? i'm not comparing OM to State, you are. I'm just pointimg out that OM sucks. State sucks, too. What's so hard to understand about that? You're the one that seems to think OM is some top-tier college football team.

 

[AceD3]

you seem to miss "the point".

Whatever it is that you think OM is, State's far worse. You can't say "Ole Miss and MSU suck", as the OMs and the Arkansas' of the conference are so statistically superior that your descriptive is found wanting. Make up a new word for MSU's ineptitude historically as a college football program if you are opinion is so bent on giving that one to average/good teams. I typically use that one for below average/crappy programs, of which their is no doubt MSU is a card carrying member of- yesterday, today, tomorrow.

Maybe it isn't so much a descriptive as a label you are looking for to describe MSU, as I think about it. A mid-major? Non-D1A program? If you say so.

 

[KurtRambis4]

not very smart so arguing with you is pointless. You're basically arguing about who's the taller midget. If you can't see the idiocy in that, I got nothing. I concede. Ole Miss is a national powerhouse and everyone should strive to reach their (OM) level of success.

edited to add: you can't believe anything in that last post? if so, you're even less bright than i thought.

 

[HD6]

is because in your post that I replied to you say "<font size="5"><span style="font-weight: bold;">OM won in 1970</span></font>, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1995, 1997, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008" So that's why.

Now, I will grant that I made a mistake, you are right that State has only won 8 or more 7 times in the past 30 years. It's still only 9-7, not a huge gap.

As to the other facts, well no **** Sherlock, you're right. The reason I didn't address was because they are correct. I do get a kick out of Capital One being called a major bowl, somebody alert Steve Spurrier his Citrus Bowl jokes aren't funny anymore. I'll agree the Cotton was a major bowl in the 80's and early 90's (the time period we are talking about), but it has certainly lost it's luster over the past decade. It's still a quality bowl, and older fans look at it a little more importantly than say, your average college student, but it's certainly not going to achieve BCS status anytime soon, new stadium or not.

You also like to throw in the 1990's as the best decade of MSU football ever. Is 2000-2009 not our worse decade ever? You can do the research, I'm sure you have it on hand.

Just out of curiosity, could I get a study of you vs. LSU, your real rival over the past 20 years?

 

[KurtRambis4]

Just out of curiosity, could I get a study of you vs. LSU, your real rival over the past 20 years?

can just see him sitting at home, burning up google right now

 

[HD6]

he isn't saying your program is a joke compared to ours, it's just a joke overall. You've been to 3 NYD bowl games (Two Cottons and a Gator) in the past 20 years. What's the tally for Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, and Tennessee? You've been bowl eligible 12 of the past 17 years, how many for those other schools?

You're the king of the bottom feeders, a solid eighth best in the conference, I mean you have to put Arkansas ahead of you with 2 SEC championship game appearances and 5 NYD bowls. They are 10-10 against in you the last 20 years, so the extracurriculars put them over the top.

Again, this argument is completely independent of what MSU is or does. This is about you. You're like the guy driving the 1993 BMW, living in a house he paid a half million for that's worth a third of that now, who still ponies up to the bar with his millionaire friends who didn't take a bath on some bad stock deal and acts like he's doing just as well as them.

 

[Lion O]

We are 4-3 in the SEC, you are 2-5.

We are favored, at your place.

I know you want to play it off as if we are equals...but that is simply untrue. Using any standard, record, poll, or otherwise, it would be an upset.

 

[eurekadawg]

Your right yall are awsome. Why would you stoop as low as to step foot on scott field? I can't believe they even alow us to stay in the confrence. When does snead report to NY to pick up that trophy? Please go jack off to the Blind Side.

 

[AceD3]

To your points-

The Citrus has always been a major bowl, Spurrier's jokes have to be taken in the contest they were given- Florida was keeping Tennessee from winning the SEC and going to the Sugar. Certainly the Citrus isn't the Sugar- now or then- but it is a major bowl and always has been, the #2 pick for the SEC now just as it was then.

On that note, the Cotton is a major bowl as well- the 2nd highest payout non- BCS bowl. The 7th biggest game overall... no need to continue to hammer those points.

Ole Miss is 9-11 against LSU in the past 20 years, incidentally the same record MSU has against Ole Miss.</p>

 

[AceD3]

I don't think you'll find many generic college football fans who would say an average SEC program is "a joke". That's just me though.

I don't put Arkansas ahead of us either- we have a better record, a better SEC record, more bowl appearances and wins, and twice as many appearances in the final rankings. Basically all they do have is the two trips to Atlanta to play for the SEC title, but they didn't win it either time so no championships and advantage there. OM has done the same thing in the past 20 years, in fact. At best, that's a wash.

I don't think OM is a better program than any of the other 6, but by the same token the disparity isn't nearly as great as many might think- particularly with a school like Auburn. In fact, OM is clearly closer to Auburn in performance than they are the Vandy's and UK's of the world.

 

[AceD3]

Not everyone should strive for OM success, but MSU sure should.

They've been coming up short for over a hundred years... maybe it's due to that lack of effort.

Along with about 80-90 other NCAA programs.

 

[HD6]

What do you think the average Alabama fan feels? Florida? LSU? Why do you think they are so torn up over losing to you? It's because they see you as their inferior.

I mean, you really don't think Arkansas playing in the SEC championship game twice trumps you? You really don't think that?

In this decade, Auburn has an undefeated season, an SEC championship, 2 SEC West titles, and 5 New Year's Day bowls. They will make it 9 bowls in 10 years this season. They were 8-2 against you this decade. This is the program you are closer to than you are to Kentucky, who incidently will play in their fourth straight bowl game this season.

You have gained something out this debate, your custom title. I think it fits you well.

 

[GloryDawg]

Makes sense. On a side note, Bryant was 4-3 vs. Vaught.

It is worst because you played them less. Read the whole post. My point was you guys dodge Alabama while Vaught was there.

You have said some of the stupidest things I've ever read in this thread. You're logic and reasoning skills are unparalleled today. How the hell can you come up with Ole Miss dodged Bama and The Bear when the played 7 times, 5 in Alabama and 2 in Jackson? The two guys only coached at the same time for what 12 years? So they didn't play them 5 of those years? The Bear dodged as many teams as he could in those days. He never wanted to come to MS and as a result they refused to schedule games in Oxford. If you aren't going to take the time to look and see if you actually do know what you are talking about please just shut the 17 up. I've always thought you are a dubmass, but you are taking it to new levels today.<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;">
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It doesn't even take an Ole Miss fan to wonder why you are still posting...

KISS MY ***!
One other thing. I never said he dodged the bear, I said he dodged Alabama.

 

[GloryDawg]

That's what 20 to 26 years? (You do the math) He only played them 7 times. I summit to you again, he dodged Alabama.

 

[HD6]

I can only shake my head.

 

[AceD3]

Why would it? Why on earth would 2 two losses and zero championships overcome trailing in almost every category? As to your au and uk comparison, you pups love to move the goalpost. I had been told we were discussing the last twenty years but that dilutes your 'point', such as it is. In such a comparison, om is closer to au than uk. Far closer

 

[HD6]

you can add another 2 NYD bowls, another undefeated season, a 20-1-1 stretch that would have resulted in two more NYD bowls were they not on probation, and they are 16-4 against you. Hell in that 20 year time frame, we have beaten them 7 times.

In the 20 year period counting this year since both teams are bowl eligible, Arkansas has 12 bowls to your 11. They have 5 NYD bowls to your 3, and they could get one this year with a win vs LSU. They have 3 SEC West Championships/Co-Championships to your 1 Co-Championship. Which category do you dominate in?

 

[KurtRambis4]

It's obvious that OM is an upper-tier program on the national scene. /morons

 

[AceD3]

bowl victories, etc. And you are wrong, Arkansas only has 11 appearances since the 90 season (past 20 seasons) even counting this one. And while true they have an outside shot at getting a NYD one this year, you neglect to add ours for this season. No prizes for guessing why.

I'm not going through the full breakdown and records, but Auburn University has won 29 more football games than OM since 1990. Ole Miss has won 37 more football games than Kentucky. Kentucky has been to 6 bowl games and has zero appearances in the final top 25, Ole Miss has been to 11 bowls and has 6 (or maybe 7) appearances in the final top 25, and AU has been to 12 bowls and has finished nationally ranked 11 times.

Again, it's pretty clear to anyone objective enough to bother. But there's little objectivity when it comes to discussing Ole Miss here.

 

[spacecataz]

bowl victories, etc. And you are wrong, Arkansas only has 11 appearances since the 90 season (past 20 seasons) even counting this one. And while true they have an outside shot at getting a NYD one this year, you neglect to add ours for this season. No prizes for guessing why.

I'm not going through the full breakdown and records, but Auburn University has won 29 more football games than OM since 1990. Ole Miss has won 37 more football games than Kentucky. Kentucky has been to 6 bowl games and has zero appearances in the final top 25, Ole Miss has been to 11 bowls and has 6 (or maybe 7) appearances in the final top 25, and AU has been to 12 bowls and has finished nationally ranked 11 times.

Again, it's pretty clear to anyone objective enough to bother. But there's little objectivity when it comes to discussing Ole Miss here.

We get it, man. Everyone knows that Mississippi is this badass perennial powerhouse that the rest of the SEC would absolutely kill to be.

 

[someonestolemyusernamedamnit]

And, how do you know Alabama wasn't dodging John Vaught? Or how do you know it wasn't mutual? Just curious. Vaught's defense once gave up three touchdowns over the course of an entire season (one of those being a punt return by Billy Cannon). Do you honestly think he was scared to play Alabama?

 

[Ol Blue.sixpack]

Two bottom feeders in a pissing contest

 

[Todd4State]

confuse both MSU and Ole Miss as each other should tell you something.

But I have a feeling it won't.

 

[monkey11508.sixpack]

So doesn't that mean that we are doing something right if we pissed off the Klan? If the Klan wanted to protest in Starkville, y'all would let them too. You all try to make it sound like it was a Klan pep rally held before the game.

 

[monkey11508.sixpack]

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[monkey11508.sixpack]

retardedku

 

[biguglyjoe]

*****

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

So doesn't that mean that we are doing something right if we pissed off the Klan? If the Klan wanted to protest in Starkville, y'all would let them too. You all try to make it sound like it was a Klan pep rally held before the game.

They were supporting the students rights to say "The South Shall Raaaahhhse 'Agin". There's been nothing the Rebs have done to show their displeasure with the Kluckers who were there. No, nasty midnight phone calls, no threatening letters or e-mails, no jobs getting lost, nothing like what you would do with message board flamers from opposing schools or douchebags who make silly Youtube videos.

And you turned your backs on them? Thank goodness you weren't on Flight 93 on 9/11. Imagine if those passengers had proudly turned THEIR backs and said "no" to hatred and intolerance.

 

[RebelBruiser]

So doesn't that mean that we are doing something right if we pissed off the Klan? If the Klan wanted to protest in Starkville, y'all would let them too. You all try to make it sound like it was a Klan pep rally held before the game.

They were supporting the students rights to say "The South Shall Raaaahhhse 'Agin". There's been nothing the Rebs have done to show their displeasure with the Kluckers who were there. No, nasty midnight phone calls, no threatening letters or e-mails, no jobs getting lost, nothing like what you would do with message board flamers from opposing schools or douchebags who make silly Youtube videos.

And you turned your backs on them? Thank goodness you weren't on Flight 93 on 9/11. Imagine if those passengers had proudly turned THEIR backs and said "no" to hatred and intolerance.

You really are just that dumb aren't you? I had been wondering if it was an act, but I don't think it is.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

RebelBruiser wrote:
You really are just that dumb aren't you? I had been wondering if it was an act, but I don't think it is.

You think I'm dumb, but you agree with me.

 

[monkey11508.sixpack]

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[KurtRambis4]

well if it's anything i've learned from this thread, it's that OM's football program does not suck...

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