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Silver lining is this obviously proves big east is up there and even better than corrupt SEC or ACC outside Duke and unc.

Maybe it was just my day again and wanting Tenesse to win and other BS, but seeing UConn win get that clutch three from Mullins and karaban earlier, I just feel if UConn was going to have the lucky voodoo, they could’ve gave us that win a couple weeks ago, that could’ve gotten us a last four in bid.
 
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hallwins

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SEC - 10 teams
ACC - 8 teams
Not one in Final Four

St John's could have been there as well.

Not enough has been made of the Committee putting the 2 best teams in a conference in the same region.

Danny still standing and fighting. I am sure he will take up the Conference defense this week.
 
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dehere23

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John Scheyer has accomplished some things at this age (38, I think) which are pretty remarkable. Yes, it is Duke, but we have seen other really strong programs suffer when a legend leaves, and more often it seems it is the "guy after the guy" that replaces the legend who ends up restoring things.

But he is going to get major, major heat here, fair or not. Not just about the last play, because all little Boozer has to do is not try and make an unnecessary pass and that game is probably over. More for the second half blown lead after what happened last year with Houston in the final 4, when Duke had the ball up like 7 (or whatever it was) with a minute or so left and lost. After watching Duke completely destroy them in the first half, I thought my bet of Uconn ML and separately getting 5.5 was going to be "toast". Until it wasn't : )
 

hallwins

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John Scheyer has accomplished some things at this age (38, I think) which are pretty remarkable. Yes, it is Duke, but we have seen other really strong programs suffer when a legend leaves, and more often it seems it is the "guy after the guy" that replaces the legend who ends up restoring things.

But he is going to get major, major heat here, fair or not. Not just about the last play, because all little Boozer has to do is not try and make an unnecessary pass and that game is probably over. More for the second half blown lead after what happened last year with Houston in the final 4, when Duke had the ball up like 7 (or whatever it was) with a minute or so left and lost. After watching Duke completely destroy them in the first half, I thought my bet of Uconn ML and separately getting 5.5 was going to be "toast". Until it wasn't : )
Same here. Except I only got 5 LOL.

Video of Scheyer shows him wanting Boozer to make the pass. Just hold the ball and get fouled.

By the same token, if it is a better pass, game is over.
 
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NYShoreGuy

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SEC - 10 teams
ACC - 8 teams
Not one in Final Four

St John's could have been there as well.

Not enough has been made of the Committee putting the 2 best teams in a conference in the same region.

Danny still standing and fighting. I am sure he will take up the Conference defense this week.
This has been a crying matter for 2 weeks. St. John's happened to play several SEC teams in the OOC and lost to three of them. That squarely influenced how the committee evaluated seeding. They got a second weekend game in big east territory. The point on the S curve scale is to balance the regions so that the top 4 seeds weight are pretty equal to one another. Since the East had Duke as overall #1 seed they are getting the worst 2 seed, the best 3 seed and then the worst 4 seed. That would then make St. John's the strongest 5 seed. So you wanted them a 5 in another region or a 4 in another region?
I feel for what we know now being the 4/5 in the South would have been a winnable path to play for a Final Four spot.
They had a great season, if any of their guards made 2-3 more 3s or they were able to play some D down the stretch it would have been an all big east regional final today.
 

hallwins

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This has been a crying matter for 2 weeks. St. John's happened to play several SEC teams in the OOC and lost to three of them. That squarely influenced how the committee evaluated seeding. They got a second weekend game in big east territory. The point on the S curve scale is to balance the regions so that the top 4 seeds weight are pretty equal to one another. Since the East had Duke as overall #1 seed they are getting the worst 2 seed, the best 3 seed and then the worst 4 seed. That would then make St. John's the strongest 5 seed. So you wanted them a 5 in another region or a 4 in another region?
I feel for what we know now being the 4/5 in the South would have been a winnable path to play for a Final Four spot.
They had a great season, if any of their guards made 2-3 more 3s or they were able to play some D down the stretch it would have been an all big east regional final today.
Name one other time in the last 40 years that the top 2 teams in a conference were in the same region.

Name one time in the last 40 years that the top 2 teams in a conference had to both play the overall number 1 seed before the Final Four.

Yes, St John's got a 2nd weekend game in DC after traveling the farthest of any team in the tourney. BTW, Nova had to travel the 2nd farthest.

You can believe there is a rationale basis for this as you set forth above. I will believe forever that this would never happen to the SEC, BIG TEN OR BIG 12 top 2 finishers.