End of SHU rivalry?

FireBugOBJC

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Nahhh… Let’s schedule SDSU, Nevada, NCSTATE, Boise State, Kansas State, TCU, Texas, Memphis, Virginia, WVU… I could name a shitload of teams that would be more interesting and also allow us to expand our national recruiting.

Again… What does playing and beating them do for Rutgers?? What does Rutgers get? Bragging rights we already own??? What is the benefit?
Too bad Rutgers couldn't beat em..you sound like a clown
 

burtmanjack

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Especially ones that overlap our recruiting areas that we already have huge advantages over… This is the 80’s anymore.
Yay. So better to be Northwestern and Minnesota rather than Villanova and UCONN. Got it.

Wake me when this powerhouse conference wins a natty.

Not a single player in this tourney was even alive the last time that happened.
 
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Too bad Rutgers couldn't beat em..you sound like a clown
No I don’t… It’s easy to spot the pathetic SHU fans begging for this game… You’re a fuking clown…

Again… You just proved my point… SHU playing and winning the game is the national championship for them.

We have wins over Michigan, MSU, Purdue, OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, Maryland, Northwestern…. All of those wins are MUCH better preception wise than beating SHU. If we would have won it wouldn’t have moved the needle…. Losing to a ****** SHU actually hurt..
 

burtmanjack

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Let’s get back to facts. Big ten is one of the best conferences in the Country for bball. Big East is a mid major and shu is a mid level mid major. There is no benefit for rutgers to play mid major mid level teams. It’s not talking crap about shu it’s just reality. For RU there is no benefit
Yup. No benefit to playing mid majors. That must be why RU’s schedule is littered with them literally every year.
 

FireBugOBJC

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No I don’t… It’s easy to spot the pathetic SHU fans begging for this game… You’re a fuking clown
I'm a rutgers fan you idiot...you sound stupid trying to justify getting the hall off the schedule by saying they're not a worthy opponent and a win against them wouldn't benefit..so go beat em and prove it!
 

Colbert17!

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Lets look at the seven Gavitt Games results. Total overall record

B1G 10 - 30 wins
Big East - 26 wins

Not some overwhelming numbers
 

burtmanjack

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Dude I went to Harvard. I’m a SHU fan because I grew up in South Orange. Was in my dorm a block and a half away from Cambridge Rindge and Latin when alum Rumeal Robinson sank his FTs. Broke my heart.

But keep throwing that offensive and ignorant term around. All class.
 

bethlehemfan

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I'm a rutgers fan you idiot...you sound stupid trying to justify getting the hall off the schedule by saying they're not a worthy opponent and a win against them wouldn't benefit..so go beat em and prove it!
That’s not the point bug. If you beat them nobody cares because they are irrelevant. If you lose it’s a black mark. May as well schedule a higher level program
 

bethlehemfan

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Dude I went to Harvard. I’m a SHU fan because I grew up in South Orange. Was in my dorm a block and a half away from Cambridge Rindge and Latin when alum Rumeal Robinson sank his FTs. Broke my heart.

But keep throwing that offensive and ignorant term around. All class.
You don’t seem very intelligent.
 
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I'm a rutgers fan you idiot...you sound stupid trying to justify getting the hall off the schedule by saying they're not a worthy opponent and a win against them wouldn't benefit..so go beat em and prove it!
Then you are one stupid fuking Rutgers fan..

You must be over 60…

Answer the question… Playing and beating SHU does what?? They are fuking irrelevant in a ****** Big East conference. They haven’t won’t **** in years… You trying to argue keeping them on the schedule when there is NO benefit in doing so on any level or any metric is far stupider.
 

Colbert17!

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Obviously lots of SHU trolls on this thread. I think it's pretty apparent that I'm not one of them. I think we should still have SHU on our schedule.
 
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Lets look at the seven Gavitt Games results. Total overall record

B1G 10 - 30 wins
Big East - 26 wins

Not some overwhelming numbers
You will see those numbers get blown wide open the next 5 years…. 45-10

Look at all the Big East coaches recently that jumped ship…. You won’t see one B1G coach leave for a Big East school. Not one ACC coach leave for a Big East a school..
 

FireBugOBJC

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Then you are one stupid fuking Rutgers fan..

You must be over 60…
What the hell are you talking about?? If anyone is stupid it's definitely you. You think Rutgers is above playing SHU?? Bottom line is they finished in the bottom half of a mediocre B1G and lost to SHU. keep em on the schedule and win, they'll be good for years to come. Those top teams you mentioned couldn't care less about scheduling Rutgers and anyone outside of the Rutgers fan base would understand and agree. You'd be singing a different tune if they had won that game and finished the season strong
 

essexknight

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There is no need to rip SHU. They were down this year and RU should have beaten them at home.

As for taking them off the schedule, I don’t see it happening considering Hobbs is the AD and he has strong ties to SHU.
 

bethlehemfan

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There is no need to rip SHU. They were down this year and RU should have beaten them at home.

As for taking them off the schedule, I don’t see it happening considering Hobbs is the AD and he has strong ties to SHU.
Again it’s not ripping shu. Stop with that. It’s just the game doesn’t help
Ru at this point. Thats all.
 
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Just go away
What the hell are you talking about?? If anyone is stupid it's definitely you. You think Rutgers is above playing SHU?? Bottom line is they finished in the bottom half of a mediocre B1G and lost to SHU. keep em on the schedule and win, they'll be good for years to come. Those top teams you mentioned couldn't care less about scheduling Rutgers and anyone outside of the Rutgers fan base would understand and agree. You'd be singing a different tune if they had won that game and finished the season strong
Answer the question…. I live in the Heights I come get the answer in person if I have to. Take the L… You can’t think of one reason to keep playing the game that benefits Rutgers. Clueless..
 

burtmanjack

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You will see those numbers get blown wide open the next 5 years…. 45-10

Look at all the Big East coaches recently that jumped ship…. You won’t see one B1G coach leave for a Big East school. Not one ACC coach leave for a Big East a school..
Must be all the 21st century championships.
 

BigRnj

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Huh? Seton Hall is very much the reason why you guys missed the tournament. Stop calling us irrelevant.

No disrespect but Minny is why we missed the tournament… you really are not that relevant.

Whenever you ant to compare balance sheets, lmk

😬 You really want to go there? If so you’re really comparing a relatively small regional catholic school with a flagship state university with tremendous resources and history… but somehow your career offsets that. Wow you must be something, can I have an autograph? This is the delusion we see from many of our little cousins in South Orange 🙄

We’ve passed them by. That’s why.

They could come to the RAC and win, they could have a better year, etc etc. it doesn’t matter.

Rutgers as an athletics program across the board has passed the Hall by.

It’s no longer two instate teams from the same conference battling out. It’s a large state university playing its small mid major neighbor.

Agree, and it goes well beyond athletics.

I have posted this before and I mean it with no disrespect since we are all rightfully proud of our schools. I have friends, neighbors, and co-workers that are shu grads and most are awesome folks, however there are also a significant number that have what can be best described as a Napoleon Complex when it comes to Rutgers. We are in their heads much more than they are in ours.

The realistic bottom line is that shu is a fine school. However outside of North Jersey, outside of prideful alum, and excepting an occasional decent hoops team shu is largely irrelevant by nearly any measure/comparison with any Big10 school. Sorry shu it’s just the way it is.

PS - I love and want to keep the rivalry… I appreciate history and both schools need to build more in hoops.
 
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No disrespect but Minny is why we missed the tournament… you really are not that relevant.



😬 You really want to go there? If so you’re really comparing a relatively small regional catholic school with a flagship state university with tremendous resources and history… but somehow your career offsets that. Wow you must be something, can I have an autograph? This is the delusion we see from many of our little cousins in South Orange 🙄



Agree, and it goes well beyond athletics.

I have posted this before and I mean it with no disrespect since we are all rightfully proud of our schools. I have friends, neighbors, and co-workers that are shu grads and most are awesome folks, however there are also a significant number that have what can be best described as a Napoleon Complex when it comes to Rutgers. We are in their heads much more than they are in ours.

The realistic bottom line is that shu is a fine school. However outside of North Jersey, outside of prideful alum, and excepting an occasional decent hoops team shu is largely irrelevant by nearly any measure/comparison with any Big10 school. Sorry shu it’s just the way it is.
Thank you.
 
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burtmanjack

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No disrespect but Minny is why we missed the tournament… you really are not that relevant.



😬 You really want to go there? If so you’re really comparing a relatively small regional catholic school with a flagship state university with tremendous resources and history… but somehow your career offsets that. Wow you must be something, can I have an autograph? This is the delusion we see from many of our little cousins in South Orange 🙄



Agree, and it goes well beyond athletics.

I have posted this before and I mean it with no disrespect since we are all rightfully proud of our schools. I have friends, neighbors, and co-workers that are shu grads and most are awesome folks, however there are also a significant number that have what can be best described as a Napoleon Complex when it comes to Rutgers. We are in their heads much more than they are in ours.

The realistic bottom line is that shu is a fine school. However outside of North Jersey, outside of prideful alum, and excepting an occasional decent hoops team shu is largely irrelevant by nearly any measure/comparison with any Big10 school. Sorry shu it’s just the way it is.
This may be true.

But the equally-true fact is that no one thinks of Rutgers when they think of the B10, and they never will.

To most B10 fans - and nationally - RU is just a joke.

Heck, many college sports fans don’t even realize Rutgers is in the league.

Sorry, that’s just the way it is.
 
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This may be true.

But the equally-true fact is that no one thinks of Rutgers when they think of the B10, and they never will.

To most B10 fans - and nationally - RU is just a joke.

Heck, many fans didn’t even realize Rutgers is in the league.

Sorry, that’s just the way it is.
Disagree with the NEVER…. It will take time but we will and the $$$ and investment WILL CHANGE that.
 

RUBOB72

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Dude I went to Harvard. I’m a SHU fan because I grew up in South Orange. Was in my dorm a block and a half away from Cambridge Rindge and Latin when alum Rumeal Robinson sank his FTs. Broke my heart.

But keep throwing that offensive and ignorant term around. All class.
What is the term you find so offensive? They are only words…
 

FireBugOBJC

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Answer the question…. I live in the Heights I come get the answer in person if I have to. Take the L… You can’t think of one reason to keep playing the game that benefits Rutgers. Clueless..
So beat em..and come see me any time..no idea why you went that direction, but you did
 

burtmanjack

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Like I said… Watch the next five years and keep track of the results…. $100M TV revenue and the investment, NIL and all the other benefits will only widen the gap.
Do you really think the B10 hasn’t had a huge economic advantage over most other leagues for the past 20 years?

Why have ALL of the other power 5 conferences AND the Big East have MULTIPLE natties since
2000 and the B10 has . . . none?

Always next year in the B10. We’ll wait.
 
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So beat em..and come see me any time..no idea why you went that direction, but you did
No no.. I’m not being a dick.. I’m saying I’ll walk over and we can actually talk about this and hopefully I can talk some sense into you.

Still waiting to here the benefits of playing them for the PROGRAM.
 

bethlehemfan

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Do you really think the B10 hasn’t had a huge economic advantage over most other leagues for the past 20 years?
Why have ALL of the other power 5 conferences AND the Big East have MULTIPLE natties since
2000 and the B10 has . . . none?

Always next year in the B10. We’ll wait.
I think based on this post you are either dumb or crazy or maybe both. So offer revoked.
 

FireBugOBJC

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No no.. I’m not being a dick.. I’m saying I’ll walk over and we can actually talk about this and hopefully I can talk some sense into you.

Still waiting to here the benefits of playing them for the PROGRAM.
Because they're both gonna be good! It's one game that could have meaning. No need to get rid of it, Kansas isn't looking to schedule rutgers..it sucks this year because Rutgers lost but in a few years when both are good?? It'll be great..get a few cupcakes out but keep this one