End of SHU rivalry?

[ScarletR30]

I wonder if this will be one of the final nails in the coffin to the rivilary.

I just don’t see the point in either team playing each other if a L will be held against you. No matter how the 2 teams end up the game should always be close because of the juice and emotions behind it.

If a L is going to be held against either team in March then both are better off playing power 5 teams that do not have recruiting impacts.

It already seems there was momentum to end it on SHU side when Willard was there. I wonder now if we will think about the negative as well.

Hate it but are OOC scheduling needs a big overhaul.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

Now THIS is a smart take.

 

[Plum Street]

Maybe play it at a neutral site like MSG.
Or Barclays so it’s a minimum quad 2 game or something

 

[FireBugOBJC]

It's only a bad loss if the team that beats you isn't any good...keep the game going and win..hope SHU is good and the win will be even better...your way of thinking is what gets RU a weak ooc that keeps em out w losses

 

[ScarletR30]

Maybe play it at a neutral site like MSG.
Or Barclays so it’s a minimum quad 2 game or something

Yes but even that take away most of the juice from the game. A move like this would keep sending the momentum down.

Once again, I wish this wasn’t the case but I don’t see benefits in playing it

 

[bethlehemfan]

Zero upside.

 

[RUBB86]

End it

 

[ScarletR30]

It's only a bad loss if the team that beats you isn't any good...keep the game going and win..hope SHU is good and the win will be even better...your way of thinking is what gets RU a weak ooc that keeps em out w losses

No because these games are set years in advance. If you schedule in preseason you can guarantee you will be playing a decent team like we did with Wake.

Costs > Benefits

Also not saying this for sure but I now see the downsides for us playing it

 

[Salvi's Headband]

Pathetic to be talking about ending a rivalry game

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

A Big Ten State University scared of not being able to beat the so-called South Orange Community College ?

RU has too many small time fans

 

[ScarletR30]

A Big Ten State University scared of not being able to beat the so-called South Orange Community College ?

RU has too many small time fans

This goes both ways pigeon

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

This goes both ways pigeon

WTF are you talking about?

You’re making absolutely no sense

Quit clowning

 

[ru8081]

End it!

 

[RUforlife]

It is not SHU that is the problem, it is scheduling Columbia, UMass Lowell, Fairfield, Temple, Rider, Central CT, Bucknell, Coppin State. We have a cupcake city schedule and you wonder why we don't get any respect.

 

[ScarletR30]

WTF are you talking about?

You’re making absolutely no sense

Quit clowning

Makes complete sense. Outside of fan interest what is the benefit in playing the game?

Use that space to schedule another power 5 team if the committee will not look at the game with context.

 

[King of S]

It is not SHU that is the problem, it is scheduling Columbia, UMass Lowell, Fairfield, Temple, Rider, Central CT, Bucknell, Coppin State. We have a cupcake city schedule and you wonder why we don't get any respect.

Spot on.

 

[gigantor1024]

the teams you play against dont matter. You could go 0-31 win a lower conference tournament and bam automatic bid. If you go 32-0 against lower conference teams youre in. Opponent does not matter for wins

 

[ScarletR30]

It is not SHU that is the problem, it is scheduling Columbia, UMass Lowell, Fairfield, Temple, Rider, Central CT, Bucknell, Coppin State. We have a cupcake city schedule and you wonder why we don't get any respect.

Not the case for NC State. We didn’t get in over them because of the 4 Q3 L’s.

2 of the 4 need context around them

 

[MiloTalon13]

How about we keep playing it and WIN it.
46 points would have done it this year.

 

[RutgersClassof2004]

Pathetic to be talking about ending a rivalry game

Nope. And it's not even a great rivalry anymore. Not in our interest to play them.

 

[RUJMM78]

Bring back Princeton..No , we don't want that local opponent because it would be considered as a embarrassing loss.This discussion about scheduling is really embarrassing.Recruit players that can make shots and positive results will be seen on the score board.

 

[bethlehemfan]

The only people that care about this game are seton hall fans at this point.

 

[ScarletR30]

Bring back Princeton..No , we don't want that local opponent because it would be considered as an embarrassing loss.This discussion about scheduling is really embarrassing.Recruit players that can make shots and positive results will be seen on the score board.

Revolutionary idea! Maybe they should go undefeated while at it?

 

[FireBugOBJC]

They could be asking "whats the point in beating Rutgers?" Maybe we shoulda scheduled Monmouth

 

[MADHAT1]

I'm for it.
Too many rivalries are falling by the wayside because the landscape of college sports is constantly changing.
In state sports should be immuned to that and be part of OCC make-up.
Heck I would love to see both Princeton and Seton Hall on the schedule.
Maybe a pre season tourney that had RU, PU and the dirty shoe in it with the fourth being rotated between programs like St Peters,Fairly Dickerson, Monmouth and other programs like them from Jersey.

 

[ScarletR30]

I'm for it.
Too many rivalries are falling by the wayside because the landscape of college sports is constantly changing.
In state sports should be immuned to that and be part of OCC make-up.
Heck I would love to see both Princeton and Seton Hall on the schedule.
Maybe a pre season tourney that had RU, PU and the dirty shoe in it with the fourth being rotated between programs like St Peters,Fairly Dickerson, Monmouth and other programs like them from Jersey.

Yes I agree, at surface level this is what made college sports great.

With where we are at now though the question needs to be brought up. Bottom line is a one point home loss for EITHER team should not be considered a “bass loss”. Unless a team is abysmal.

Now we saw today that was not the case. This was used against when comparing to a team like NC State and a variety of other bubble teams.

So what is the point of this game at this point. We are playing for the tournament now.

 

[IL Lusciato]

Please stop.

This is coward stuff.

 

[walshtrips]

The only people that care about this game are seton hall fans at this point.

You're delusional! If the rivalry ended, SHU would schedule a different P5 school and RU would schedule Stony Brook.

 

[bethlehemfan]

You're delusional! If the rivalry ended, SHU would schedule a different P5 school and RU would schedule Stony Brook.

I’m delusional and yet you’re here.

 

[bethlehemfan]

You're delusional! If the rivalry ended, SHU would schedule a different P5 school and RU would schedule Stony Brook.

Btw I have nothing against shu. Just no benefit to ru.

 

[MADHAT1]

Yes I agree, at surface level this is what made college sports great.

With where we are at now though the question needs to be brought up. Bottom line is a one point home loss for EITHER team should not be considered a “bass loss”. Unless a team is abysmal.

Now we saw today that was not the case. This was used against when comparing to a team like NC State and a variety of other bubble teams.

So what is the point of this game at this point. We are playing for the tournament now.

any cup cake loss hurts and can't just blame playing the hall and losing
on the snub.
It's about earning the bid and not looking for ways to sneak in by dropping an instate opponent that many fans of both programs consider a rivalry.
The fact of the matter is: losing to Seton Hall wasn't the reason RU didn't get an invite, losing to the hall was only one part of the reason that the selection committee didn't think RU deserved a spot.
Losing to Temple didn't help and some of the OCC wins didn't earn much respect either.
Not getting in is disapointing, but RU shouldn't go off the deep end and drop games that are considered a rivalry in a knee jerk reaction over RU not going to dance because they lost that game and beat underwelming programs that didn't earn the committee's respect for the win.

 

[shufan199_3]

You guys make me laugh. You want to end it because Seton Hall has won 6 out of the last 8 meetings?

 

[bethlehemfan]

You guys make me laugh. You want to end it because Seton Hall has won 6 out of the last 8 meetings?

No because shu is irrelevant to rutgers. Very simple

 

[shufan199_3]

No because shu is irrelevant to rutgers. Very simple

Huh? Seton Hall is very much the reason why you guys missed the tournament. Stop calling us irrelevant.

 

[DJ Spanky]

So we're going to emulate Princeton?

 

[bethlehemfan]

Huh? Seton Hall is very much the reason why you guys missed the tournament. Stop calling us irrelevant.

There’s no upside to playing any non p5 average team such as shu. Case in point.

 

[FinalFourOrBust_rivals142702]

So we’re gonna run away from playing seton hall now? Lol this is just the dumbest fanbase.

 

[shufan199_3]

So we’re gonna run away from playing seton hall now? Lol this is just the dumbest fanbase.

Seriously. What a joke.

 

[FinalFourOrBust_rivals142702]

Seriously. What a joke.

They’re all such cowards and excuse makers

 

[cicero grimes]

In fairness shu was a q2 loss for most of the season and was not hurting us. When they went into their slump down the stretch it moved to q3. As thecposter above said shu is not the problem. The Bucknell and rider etc games are the problem. Play a neutral site tourney against decent teams and the sos improves tremendously.