Why did we get screwed? What’s the rationale? Just RU hate?
Their OOC isn't drastically better....and they got blown out by Seton Hall by 24 Saturday in their home gym.
Why did we get screwed? What’s the rationale? Just RU hate?
Agreed. This is the point I was making. OOC schedule doesn’t matter if you don’t lose to the cupcakes.But I wouldn’t call that them having a good schedule.
They were 1-6 in quad 1 games. We get more than that in conference.
So what did they do? Play a bunch of Q2 and Q3 games?
I’d hardly say that’s an impressive schedule
He has no more of a clue as to why we missed than anyone else. The committee basically said we didn’t get in because of Mag injuryYou don't need it.....show me Providences quality OOC games.....I'll wait....m
They do the same exact thing with the CFB playoffs. They’ll just say whatever makes their choices seem better after the fact but will be inconsistent between teams.The committee does not have consistent principles, they are retroactively applying whatever they can use against Rutgers. That is all that's happening here.
So then conference wins don’t matter?committee guy said.....Mag injury combined with lack of non conference win
When did he mention anything about non conference winsTHE GUY FROM THE NCAA JUST SAID ON ESPN THAT RUTGERS INJURY ISSUE AND SEEING THEM NOT ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT IN THE GAMES THEY SAW PLUS THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO PICK UP QUALITY NON CONFERENCE GAMES WAS WHY THEY FELL SHORT
You lost me with committee guy said.committee guy said.....Mag injury combined with lack of non conference win
He has no more of a clue as to why we missed than anyone else. The committee basically said we didn’t get in because of Mag injury
Except our resident expert claimed that was taken into considerationRutgers loss six out of the last eight games which was the main reason for non selection.You are what your record says you are.In Rutgers case they were outstanding on defense and mediocre on offense.As such Rutgers was a bubble team just like last season.Rutgers over came obstacles and achieved 19 wins and yes the Ohio State loss will always be upsetting to fans.Bottom line living on the bubble isn't a way to sustain success.
That's why you don't give them a reason. NC State got it because they are NC State. That is clear. Any 10 year old can figure out that is the reasoning the committee applied. Our late season collapse allowed them to look on their list of excuses and point to "injuries." The team let the season slip away in the end and the committee pounced on that to leave them out.They have a list of reasons that they just pick and choose from each year depending on what is needed to justify the situation.
the ncaa has specifically stressed non conference wins do matter...look there is lots of criteria...ru failed in a few of them, nc state overcame their **** schedule because they didnt lose to *** teams like Minnesota in the accSo then conference wins don’t matter?
The whole thing just screams “we had to cap the B1G”
well they stopped watching after Northwestern IMO.....they didnt watch the Purdue game and the field was already selectedYou lost me with committee guy said.
Rutgers didn't pass their eye test and these are the reasons they came up with to explain it. I'd have respect for them if they would actually come out and say it.
on espnWhen did he mention anything about non conference wins
I yield to your knowledge.committee guy said.....Mag injury combined with lack of non conference win
That’s what I’m saying..you don’t need to schedule up..you need to win the games you are supposed to. Can’t lose to Temple, Minny, Shu, or Nebraska. The rest of our schedule with Q1/2 in conference is enough to look good on a resumeYou don't get rewarded for any of those games.....none of it matters.
You're better off playing Q3 and Q4 teams at the RAC, developing your bench and piling up wins. Trying to listen to people telling RU to schedule up, is ridiculous at this point.
And don't tell me that playing Gonzaga at MSG is fixing things. It's not....there's a reason why Gonzaga hasn't played a true OOC road game in 4 years.
They lost to Syracusethe ncaa has specifically stressed non conference wins do matter...look there is lots of criteria...ru failed in a few of them, nc state overcame their **** schedule because they didnt lose to *** teams like Minnesota in the acc
thats on Pike and he needs to be criticized as well....to have 4-5 holes on the roster every year isnt a good thing so clearly a few guys now need to leave and we need to hit the portal hardI yield to your knowledge.
BUT
If we had bench depth…we likely don’t lose to Temple.
We avoid the meltdown after Mag injury…including the Minny loss and likely some others.
Take away those two loses which were caused by our lack of depth….we are in are we not? With the same schedule.
Seems like root cause is depth.
Bad losses more impactful than good wins.the ncaa has specifically stressed non conference wins do matter...look there is lots of criteria...ru failed in a few of them, nc state overcame their **** schedule because they didnt lose to *** teams like Minnesota in the acc
q2...the same as ru losing to shu at homeThey lost to Syracuse
we had too many this year...last year our wins were all upper level Q1 wins this year just oneBad losses more impactful than good wins.
You have no more of a clue as to why we were left out than anybody else. Last year, according to you, it was lack of road wins and NETthe ncaa has specifically stressed non conference wins do matter...look there is lots of criteria...ru failed in a few of them, nc state overcame their **** schedule because they didnt lose to *** teams like Minnesota in the acc
Challenge.on espn
That’s what I’m saying..you don’t need to schedule up..you need to win the games you are supposed to. Can’t lose to Temple, Minny, Shu, or Nebraska. The rest of our schedule with Q1/2 in conference is enough to look good on a resume
First thing first, tell the dancing combo Reiber/Miller to pack the bags.thats on Pike and he needs to be criticized as well....to have 4-5 holes on the roster every year isnt a good thing so clearly a few guys now need to leave and we need to hit the portal hard
if we beat Minny and Nebraska yeah were in the 8/9 game.Challenge.
If we had won those 4 quad 3 we are easily in and prob a 7/8 seef
Now that is something I agree with. The head of the committee claimed they used many more metrics than ever, yet they really did not. Really went back to just subjective choices at the end.Cmon.....we are going to take the narrative that the final 8 games was the reason....?? They clearly didn't watch the games, Mag or no Mag.
Caleb strapped it up and played, Mulcahy played through stingers and everything.....this whole excuses about injuries as the reason is a joke.
The criteria and NCAA is crooked and inconsistent. Let's just call it what it is.
Huh? Your argument is Q1 and Q3 loses are equal? Are you paying any attention at all? 4 Q3 loses cost us a bid.Doesn’t matter…
You have to win the games you’re supposed to. We should beat Temole..we lost! We should beat SHU..we lost! We should beat Minny..we lost!
Doesn’t matter if we played Gonzaga and lost…a better loss? Sure! Still a loss
That’s my point when everyone keep pointing out a better OOC schedule which is not worth it. People just want to play name teams for the hype.if we beat Minny and Nebraska yeah were in the 8/9 game.
They just don’t care about quality wins apparently.we had too many this year...last year our wins were all upper level Q1 wins this year just one
200% how the frack can 114 of 118 independent experts have us in yet this? The NCAA is a political animal and our conference and lame duck president commissioner did NOTHING to help us.That’s the biggest problem. our NET sucked last year with a similar profile and we got in, our NET was great especially next to PItt and some others and get screwed this year. Looks like lots of politics with the bubble teams.
That is not supposed to matter. It's supposed to be body of work. They continue to contradict themselves and clearly we were out before the B1G tournament even started.Rutgers loss six out of the last eight games which was the main reason for non selection.You are what your record says you are.In Rutgers case they were outstanding on defense and mediocre on offense.As such Rutgers was a bubble team just like last season.Rutgers over came obstacles and achieved 19 wins and yes the Ohio State loss will always be upsetting to fans.Bottom line living on the bubble isn't a way to sustain success.
Those loses weren't to cupcakes. Lafayette, st. Bonnie's are cupcakes.Agreed. This is the point I was making. OOC schedule doesn’t matter if you don’t lose to the cupcakes.
Our resume this year was better than last for sure plus this year there were no real bud stealers. I firmly believe that the conference was getting no more than 8 teams and Penn St (rightfully so) stole our bid. I think if they lose first round of tournament, we make it. The committee taking that much credence into Mag’s injury and saying it publicly is unacceptable. If that were the case, why were they not as accepting of loses due to PM and Caleb’s injuriesThose loses weren't to cupcakes. Lafayette, st. Bonnie's are cupcakes.
Was going to say the same thing. Hypocrisy.Our resume this year was better than last for sure plus this year there were no real bud stealers. I firmly believe that the conference was getting no more than 8 teams and Penn St (rightfully so) stole our bid. I think if they lose first round of tournament, we make it. The committee taking that much credence into Mag’s injury and saying it publicly is unacceptable. If that were the case, why were they not as accepting of loses due to PM and Caleb’s injuries