Epstein - Maxwell to Testify August 11th - Bill Clinton Subpoenaed - John Kerry Implicated

dpic73

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I just don't think this matters either way. She's part of the administration regardless. So she will be tainted regardless for people on the left. And MAGA will only care that she is doing what Trump wants and they believe should be done.
Think about what happened to everyone in his last administration then consider this cabinet is much more reviled than those people and I don't see how she has a career after this - especially if his approval keeps tanking.
 

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Think about what happened to everyone in his last administration then consider this cabinet is much more reviled than those people and I don't see how she has a career after this - especially if his approval keeps tanking.
I was responding to Ned. I know what you and tboon think. She definitely doesn't have a career in politics outside of MAGA, but he seemed to imply he thought she was way out on a limb and this could take her. When it seems obvious to me she is not out on a limb, but just out where MAGA/Trump wants her. So just don't think this matters at all.
 

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Again, if this isn’t a coverup, it sure is coverup shaped.
 

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"I was told about the Epstein/Trump story published today 6 days ago. Multiple outlets held it back in order to get Trump to publicly deny it first (see below), before dropping the bomb. I am also told that a third story is in the works related to Trump/Epstein and that it’s likely a bombshell."
 

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Anyone else get the sense that these Epstein “files” if/when they are released will be pretty underwhelming and have very little in the way of substantive, verifiable, actionable new information?

Of course there’s going to be all kinds of names in there - be was a wealthy NYC socialite who was in position to hob knob with all kinds of powerful people.

who knows, I just tend to doubt there’s going to be anything earth shattering in there and it will likely just create more rumor and conjecture.
 
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Bill and Hillary Subpoenad in Epstein saga


Hahahahahahahahaha MAGA is such a joke. The red mAgA hat is the new scarlet letter the identifies Asininity. Let’s no longer demand full transparency because our Demi-god is implicated - let’s fall back on the COMMAS our simple minds can understand… Clinton, Obama, the Mainstream Media, Anyone anti-Trump, and Soros is why all bad things happen!!

Do you have no shame @fatpiggy?
 

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Anyone else get the sense that these Epstein “files” if/when they are released will be pretty underwhelming and have very little in the way of substantive, verifiable, actionable new information?

Of course there’s going to be all kinds of names in there - be was a wealthy NYC socialite who was in position to hob knob with all kinds of powerful people.

who knows, I just tend to doubt there’s going to be anything earth shattering in there and it will likely just create more rumor and conjecture.
Agreed.
 

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Hahahahahahahahaha MAGA is such a joke. The red mAgA hat is the new scarlet letter the identifies Asininity. Let’s no longer demand full transparency because our Demi-god is implicated - let’s fall back on the COMMAS our simple minds can understand… Clinton, Obama, the Mainstream Media, Anyone anti-Trump, and Soros is why all bad things happen!!

Do you have no shame @fatpiggy?
Yawn.
 

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I generally agreed that there probably wasn't much in the files, but the lengths that Trump is going to deny,deflect and blame is really making me wonder what the hell those files say about him?

I also doubt Rupert Murdock would have printed that information about that birthday card without knowing it was legit. Everyone knows Trump is super litigious, I don't think Rupert is dumb.
 

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These are despicable lies. Her entire diary is available online so I challenge you to find these written quotes and give us the screenshot. Why are you such a lowlife? How does it benefit you?
Given how much time Tigergrowls spends on these forums and MAGAverse I think it’s fair to say he doesn’t have anything going on in his life, so he derives meaning from being a part of the MAGAsphere which isn’t concerned with ethics or truth.
 

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I generally agreed that there probably wasn't much in the files, but the lengths that Trump is going to deny,deflect and blame is really making me wonder what the hell those files say about him?

I also doubt Rupert Murdock would have printed that information about that birthday card without knowing it was legit. Everyone knows Trump is super litigious, I don't think Rupert is dumb.
I think he's definitely in them but I'd be surprised if there was hard evidence he slept with underage girls, but the harder he tries to change the subject, the more I think there just may be something incriminating in them. Can't remember what rag it was but one that seems dialed in said there's lots of unverified hearsay in there, so that may be what he's trying to hide. And that's probably another reason why Merrick Garland didn't release them because he went out of his way to appear non-political.
 
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Given how much time Tigergrowls spends on these forums and MAGAverse I think it’s fair to say he doesn’t have anything going on in his life, so he derives meaning from being a part of the MAGAsphere which isn’t concerned with ethics or truth.
He's without a doubt, shamelessly anti-truth and no matter how many times you bust his lies, he doesn't retract them, doesn't apologize and goes right back to the well to find more of them to spread. It's confounding how a grown man in his early sixties can become so craven.
 
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I can absolutely believe the Epstein files have been manipulated.




The people who had access and control of “the Epstein evidence” for years at the FBI inserted numerous poison pills and fakes in the hope that the incoming Trump team would be incompetent in doing their due diligence, and could be stupidly induced into publicly releasing it with enough public pressure whipped up by their NeoCon social media influencer allies.

Any chances at future real cases would be irreparably compromised.

And Trump and his team have told you **this is what happened**.

So right now this is coming down to who you really trust.

Do you trust President Donald J Trump, and his team or do you trust the popular social media influencers?

For me, this is not a hard choice, given what I’ve seen with some of these influencers and their increasingly obvious ‘higher loyalty’.

Others may not be there yet, but hopefully people start asking the right questions soon .
 

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Which party is enabling this crap??? We know.




ABSOLUTELY INSANE

The Biden Admin setup a hotline so that unaccompanied minors could call if they had trouble with the strangers they were being placed with

65,000 calls to this hotline WENT UNANSWERED

“So you’re telling this committee that the Biden administration, while they were letting all of these unaccompanied minors into the country—and as we’ve talked about today, they weren’t keeping track of them—they issued these kids a hotline that they could call if they had trouble with the sponsor family they were placed with, and you’re saying that 65,000 calls to this hotline, designated to protect these kids, went unanswered. Is that what you’re telling this committee?”

Her response: “Yes, sir.”

Democrats are literally evil. How could they possibly win another election EVER again??

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This clip is from a July 17, 2025, House Homeland Security Committee hearing, where Rep. Eli Crane questioned a witness on the backlog. The 65,000 unanswered calls refer to a May 2025 Grassley report on HHS failures.

Mainstream media often downplays such stories due to partisan bias, favoring administration narratives over critical oversight. Diverse sources confirm the facts, but coverage is sparse in left-leaning outlets.
 

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🔥🚨DEVELOPING: On July 6, 2007, a 23-page letter from Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers Alan Dershowitz and Gerald Lefcourt stated that Epstein was Co-founder of the Clinton Global Initiative which became the Clinton Foundation.

The letter was tied to a successful plea deal before Epstein was charged, this directly ties Hillary and Bill Clinton to Epstein’s network.
 

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Good Grief!

Here's what we know:
  • The whole Epstein scandal hit the media in 2008 when he pled guilty to solicitation. Then again in 2019 when he was charged with trafficking.
  • There's a who's who list of people who attended parties with Epstein and Trump was on that list. There's even a photo of Epstein, Maxwell, Trump, and Melania.
  • The majority of people who associated with Epstein weren't pedophiles.
  • Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago in 2007 for hitting on one of the member's daughters. This was BEFORE the charges against Epstein surfaced.
  • Alan Dershowitz was falsely charged and exonerated. The point is that some of the "victims" lied.
  • Biden's DOJ didn't push for files to be made public. They would have had every reason to expose Trump.
  • Trump's DOJ is also not making the files public.
For some reason it remains a secret who actually had sex with under age girls. My guess is that's because they don't have sufficient evidence. My guess is also that they don't want to give the media a list of all the innocent people who associated with Epstein because that would set off a shitstorm of unprovable rumors and conspiracy theories.

Yet for some reason you seem to think the whole issue is that the Trump administration is covering up his pedophilia. You have nothing to support that.
 

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I think he's definitely in them but I'd be surprised if there was hard evidence he slept with underage girls, but the harder he tries to change the subject, the more I think there just may be something incriminating in them. Can't remember what rag it was but one that seems dialed in said there's lots of unverified hearsay in there, so that may be what he's trying to hide. And that's probably another reason why Merrick Garland didn't release them because he went out of his way to appear non-political.
And this is probably true for everyone in them honestly. If they had hard evidence, I sure hope they would be charging. But there's a gap between, everyone can look at the evidence and make inferences and see a ton of smoke....and things they can prove without a shadow of a doubt.
 
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I can absolutely believe the Epstein files have been manipulated.




The people who had access and control of “the Epstein evidence” for years at the FBI inserted numerous poison pills and fakes in the hope that the incoming Trump team would be incompetent in doing their due diligence, and could be stupidly induced into publicly releasing it with enough public pressure whipped up by their NeoCon social media influencer allies.

Any chances at future real cases would be irreparably compromised.

And Trump and his team have told you **this is what happened**.

So right now this is coming down to who you really trust.

Do you trust President Donald J Trump, and his team or do you trust the popular social media influencers?

For me, this is not a hard choice, given what I’ve seen with some of these influencers and their increasingly obvious ‘higher loyalty’.

Others may not be there yet, but hopefully people start asking the right questions soon .

Any way you would believe they weren't if they had anything incriminating about someone you support?
 
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dpic73

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Good Grief!

Here's what we know:
  • The whole Epstein scandal hit the media in 2008 when he pled guilty to solicitation. Then again in 2019 when he was charged with trafficking.
  • There's a who's who list of people who attended parties with Epstein and Trump was on that list. There's even a photo of Epstein, Maxwell, Trump, and Melania.
  • The majority of people who associated with Epstein weren't pedophiles.
  • Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago in 2007 for hitting on one of the member's daughters. This was BEFORE the charges against Epstein surfaced.
  • Alan Dershowitz was falsely charged and exonerated. The point is that some of the "victims" lied.
  • Biden's DOJ didn't push for files to be made public. They would have had every reason to expose Trump.
  • Trump's DOJ is also not making the files public.
For some reason it remains a secret who actually had sex with under age girls. My guess is that's because they don't have sufficient evidence. My guess is also that they don't want to give the media a list of all the innocent people who associated with Epstein because that would set off a shitstorm of unprovable rumors and conspiracy theories.

Yet for some reason you seem to think the whole issue is that the Trump administration is covering up his pedophilia. You have nothing to support that.
Maybe it's just me but Johnson shutting down Congress until September seems to support that he knows there's something is in there he doesn't want revealed to the public. And I can't imagine he would do that for any other person except Trump. What that thing is, who knows, but it makes it awfully suspicious when you also consider Trump's attempts to bury the story and distract with a nonsensical story about Obama.
 
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