Anyone else get the sense that these Epstein “files” if/when they are released will be pretty underwhelming and have very little in the way of substantive, verifiable, actionable new information?
Of course there’s going to be all kinds of names in there - be was a wealthy NYC socialite who was in position to hob knob with all kinds of powerful people.
who knows, I just tend to doubt there’s going to be anything earth shattering in there and it will likely just create more rumor and conjecture.
I'm on record saying this months ago. The 'files' were ALWAYS a carrot dangling at the end of a stick for the Maga cult to keep them united and probably didn't exist in the format they wanted them to, ie implicating a lot of elites directly.Agreed.
You're not completely honest when you say he's shutting down congress until September. Congress is off all of August anyway. We're really talking about a few days.Maybe it's just me but Johnson shutting down Congress until September seems to support that he knows there's something is in there he doesn't want revealed to the public. And I can't imagine he would do that for any other person except Trump. What that thing is, who knows, but it makes it awfully suspicious when you also consider Trump's attempts to bury the story and distract with a nonsensical story about Obama.
Au contraire - you're not being honest if you aren't admitting that Johnson sent them home early specifically to avoid the vote. This is not in dispute.You're not completely honest when you say he's shutting down congress until September. Congress is off all of August anyway. We're really talking about a few days.
Meanwhile a House panel voted just yesterday to subpoena the Justice Department for files related to the federal probe into Epstein. The House Oversight Committee also subpoenaed Maxwell to sit for a deposition.
I love how you've convicted someone already when no evidence has been brought forward. As I said in a rational tone yesterday, the Biden admin had, and likely added, to this file. If Biden had it, then Kamala knew about it. When Kamala was running for president, if there were some kind of evidence incriminating Trump, I think she would have used it. Now I don't know that for fact, but it sure would seem like a natural maneuver on her part. And, I'd be willing to bet that if you were on her staff you would have been jumping up and down with encouragement to make a major speech announcing Trump's involvementthis baltimore dude loves giving a felon/rapist/criminal/serial liar/womanizer/thief/epstein bro the benefit of the doubt like he's Mother Teresa. i hope if i'm ever caught redhanded murdering someone i have a jury full of baltimore guy here.![]()
lol the chuds have been given their marching orders. so much credibility smh...
I love how you've convicted someone already when no evidence has been brought forward. As I said in a rational tone yesterday, the Biden admin had, and likely added, to this file. If Biden had it, then Kamala knew about it. When Kamala was running for president, if there were some kind of evidence incriminating Trump, I think she would have used it. Now I don't know that for fact, but it sure would seem like a natural maneuver on her part. And, I'd be willing to bet that if you were on her staff you would have been jumping up and down with encouragement to make a major speech announcing Trump's involvement
Now I don't know any more about the Epstein file than you do. But even though the House has been requested to subpoena Bill and Hillary, and we also know their names are in the file, I won't jump to the conclusion they are guilty of evidence based on all the "noise" in the public domain.
You can continue to bloviate as much as you like, but just because you think something does not make it true.
And don't worry, if you murdered someone, i'd make a decision on guilt or innocence based on facts presented, not something an attorney thought happened.
Again...you seem to be missing the point.I love how you've convicted someone already when no evidence has been brought forward. As I said in a rational tone yesterday, the Biden admin had, and likely added, to this file. If Biden had it, then Kamala knew about it. When Kamala was running for president, if there were some kind of evidence incriminating Trump, I think she would have used it. Now I don't know that for fact, but it sure would seem like a natural maneuver on her part. And, I'd be willing to bet that if you were on her staff you would have been jumping up and down with encouragement to make a major speech announcing Trump's involvement
Now I don't know any more about the Epstein file than you do. But even though the House has been requested to subpoena Bill and Hillary, and we also know their names are in the file, I won't jump to the conclusion they are guilty of evidence based on all the "noise" in the public domain.
You can continue to bloviate as much as you like, but just because you think something does not make it true.
And don't worry, if you murdered someone, i'd make a decision on guilt or innocence based on facts presented, not something an attorney thought happened.
Alan Dershowitz's role in this whole saga is a particularly interesting question from my perspective. Dershowitz was a highly respected, and pretty liberal, Harvard professor up until roughly ten years ago. Then, all of a sudden, he commences backing Trump's position on pretty much every issue, often making himself look ridiculous. It's like a full 180, executed almost overnight. Dershowitz has always been a Zionist, and I don't mean that as an insult. He has consistently defended Netanyahu's hard line position regarding the destruction of Israeli Arab communities, their replacement with communities of hard line Jewish settlers, and the strategy of avoiding any meaningful negotiation or concession with either the Palestinians or Arab countries who support them. To that extent, Dershowitz appears to have opinions similar to Trump. But the Zionism does not come close to explaining Dershowitz's unfailing support for Trump over the last decade on any and all issues. I think Trump has something on Dershowitz, and my guess is that it has something to do with Dershowitz's visits to Pedo Island.And Dershowitz , who was named by one of the girls as having had sex with her (subsequently recanted) says he has seen some of the files/names _ how did he get access?
Rational response. Unfortunately there are some who have already concluded that Trump is at the center of the Epstein saga. They don't need any evidence.I love how you've convicted someone already when no evidence has been brought forward. As I said in a rational tone yesterday, the Biden admin had, and likely added, to this file. If Biden had it, then Kamala knew about it. When Kamala was running for president, if there were some kind of evidence incriminating Trump, I think she would have used it. Now I don't know that for fact, but it sure would seem like a natural maneuver on her part. And, I'd be willing to bet that if you were on her staff you would have been jumping up and down with encouragement to make a major speech announcing Trump's involvement
Now I don't know any more about the Epstein file than you do. But even though the House has been requested to subpoena Bill and Hillary, and we also know their names are in the file, I won't jump to the conclusion they are guilty of evidence based on all the "noise" in the public domain.
You can continue to bloviate as much as you like, but just because you think something does not make it true.
And don't worry, if you murdered someone, i'd make a decision on guilt or innocence based on facts presented, not something an attorney thought happened.
This isn't hard.Rational response. Unfortunately there are some who have already concluded that Trump is at the center of the Epstein saga. They don't need any evidence.
You may be right, Huckleberry. (Love the handle, BTW. Perhaps Val Kilmer's best cinematic line ever.)I was responding to Ned. I know what you and tboon think. She definitely doesn't have a career in politics outside of MAGA, but he seemed to imply he thought she was way out on a limb and this could take her. When it seems obvious to me she is not out on a limb, but just out where MAGA/Trump wants her. So just don't think this matters at all.
Dershowitz hasn't been supporting Trump’s policy positions. He was critical of what he saw as political lawfare against Trump.Alan Dershowitz's role in this whole saga is a particularly interesting question from my perspective. Dershowitz was a highly respected, and pretty liberal, Harvard professor up until a few years ago. Then, all of a sudden (roughly ten years ago), he commences backing Trump's position on pretty much every issue, often making himself look ridiculous. It's like a full 180, executed almost overnight. Dershowitz has always been a Zionist, and I don't mean that as an insult. He has consistently defended Netanyahu's hard line position regarding the destruction of Israeli Arab communities, their replacement with communities of hard line Jewish settlers, and the strategy of avoiding any meaningful negotiation or concession with either the Palestinians or Arab countries who support them. To that extent, Dershowitz appears to have opinions similar to Trump. But the Zionism does not come close to explaining Dershowitz's unfailing support for Trump over the last decade on any and all issues. I think Trump has something on Dershowitz, and my guess is that it has something to do with Dershowitz's visits to Pedo Island.
FIFY.I can absolutely believe the Epstein files have been manipulated, BUT NOT HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP. NO MANIPULATION THERE, regardless of the number of hands that laptop passed through.
How anyone could read this quote and call it rational is beyond me.Rational response. Unfortunately there are some who have already concluded that Trump is at the center of the Epstein saga. They don't need any evidence.
As I said in a rational tone yesterday, the Biden admin had, and likely added, to this file. If Biden had it, then Kamala knew about it. When Kamala was running for president, if there were some kind of evidence incriminating Trump, I think she would have used it. Now I don't know that for fact, but it sure would seem like a natural maneuver on her part.
imagine caping up for a guy when you know you have to attempt to use semantics when it comes to his sex crimes.Actually they are negotiable. He has never been adjucated as a rapist. For someone who speaks so certainly you can’t even get the facts straight
No because deep state operatives were in control and in possession at all times up until Trump 47.FIFY.
imagine caping up for a guy when you know you have to attempt to use semantics when it comes to his sex crimes.
Oh. Well that explains it. So how deep do these deep state operatives run? Is Dabo one? Are there some on this board? Are there some where I work? Are there some in my house? Am I one?No because deep state operatives were in control and in possession at all times up until Trump 47.
imagine caping up for a guy when you know you have to attempt to use semantics when it comes to his sex crimes.
imagine having to exaggerate on someone who is supposedly so awful. Your TDS is showing!
"According to her attorney"
It seems to me that the only way she's going to offer much up is if she gets something in return.
Not a serious response.Oh. Well that explains it. So how deep do these deep state operatives run? Is Dabo one? Are there some on this board? Are there some where I work? Are there some in my house? Am I one?