One day you'll learn not to challenge me!Dude you are really narcissitic
One day you'll learn not to challenge me!Dude you are really narcissitic
Dude, you definitely are out of your tree here. What did you think when Bill Clinton said it depends on what you mean by it? Did you think, oh well THAT explains it. I guess he DIDN'T have sex with her? Or did you think that he was full of ****? Because I thought he was full of ****... and so did most of the rest of the country.
Again, here's the quote from that video, WORD FOR WORD:
Reporter: "...the DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffery Epstein's clients, will that really happen?"
Bondi "It's on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump..."
Any normal person would think that the "It" refers to the client list. But here's another reason for you. Bondi seems well spoken and educated. I don't think I've ever heard her use bad grammar. IF she was referring to the files (PLURAL) wouldn't it go like this?
Reporter: "...the DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffery Epstein's clients, will that really happen?"
(Bondie now answers but refers to the files (PLURAL)
Bondi "They are on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump..."
<<It's>> is a contraction of <<it>> short for <<it is>>. <<It>> is a singular pronoun.
For instance, I ask "You have two cars, where are they?"
Do you answer "It's in the garage"? OR
Do you answer "They are in the garage"?
Bondi wasn't referring to the files, or she would have said "They are on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive of President Trump..."
She was straight up lying and in my opinion, not because there's really anything mind blowing in the files (like a list), but because there actually isn't anything super damning there, just mildly disturbing and Trump is in there with a lot of others on both sides of the aisle.
I'm with most of the board here in that I don't think that these files (or client list if there is one), directly implicate President Trump. The reason for this is that if there was a direct implication, the Biden Administration would have released it and damn the consequences. TDS, remember? Likewise, if they directly implicated only the Dems, Trump would have released it. IMHO, these files will show that LOTS of people on both sides of the aisle were hanging out with this guy and enjoying it (INCLUDING Trump). But they don't give a smoking gun on anyone.
One day you'll learn not to challenge me!
It's not safe to fill your brain with poison as you drift away. It's bad for you- stop it.Heading to bed after a big glass of chocolate milk and laying in bed listening to Fox
Good night young man LOL
Nah. People are too distracted because the DoD is getting its name changed.Would be huge to prove he brought the empire down by releasing the unredacted files!
I mainly just think it’s humorous that people who have followed Trump for years and think he wouldn’t have been screaming that fact from the rooftops every time it’s brought up. Like, Trump is not exactly tight lipped. That’s one of the things MAGA loves about him. And for years MAGA has been pushing on the Epstein storyline (understandably), and so it just humors me.Nah. People are too distracted because the DoD is getting its name changed.
So let’s get this straight Tinkerbell.
Trump has been under fire since he came down the escalator in 2015, but your party had proof he slept with underage girls for 10 years and didn’t use it against him.
That dog don’t hunt.
Newsome makes himself look dumb as a box of rocks and thats being mean to the rocks...Trump wants no part of a verbal fight with Newsome. Newsome makes him look childish and moronic.
Plot twist
I don't think it matters one way or another. I think Mike Johnson walked back his claims in the past couple of days.Theres no way you actually believe this
so he was just lying, and that doesn't matter, when it pertains to a sitting president and the most famous child sex trafficking ring of all time.... got itI don't think it matters one way or another. I think Mike Johnson walked back his claims in the past couple of days.
I haven't seen his explanation. Maybe he misspoke? Don't really care enough to figure it out because it is irrelevant. I did find it interesting though. Trump probably had run ins with the mob when working deals in NYC so him being some kind of informant would not surprise me. And i could see why he wouldn't want that to get out. Anyway, just a plot twist, nothing that changes the story.so he was just lying, and that doesn't matter, when it pertains to a sitting president and the most famous child sex trafficking ring of all time.... got it
I haven't seen his explanation. Maybe he misspoke? Don't really care enough to figure it out because it is irrelevant. I did find it interesting though. Trump probably had run ins with the mob when working deals in NYC so him being some kind of informant would not surprise me. And i could see why he wouldn't want that to get out. Anyway, just a plot twist, nothing that changes the story.
But we have had several people come out and say Trump did nothing wrong. And that is what irks you. You had people like Boone frothing at the mouth, and there is just no evidence there. On to the next irrational reason to hate Trump. You have many.
no actually what irks me is that you went from caring deeply that the epstein list be released, to just not caring at all. Why? Because Trump told you to.I haven't seen his explanation. Maybe he misspoke? Don't really care enough to figure it out because it is irrelevant. I did find it interesting though. Trump probably had run ins with the mob when working deals in NYC so him being some kind of informant would not surprise me. And i could see why he wouldn't want that to get out. Anyway, just a plot twist, nothing that changes the story.
But we have had several people come out and say Trump did nothing wrong. And that is what irks you. You had people like Boone frothing at the mouth, and there is just no evidence there. On to the next irrational reason to hate Trump. You have many.
Oh, I still care. It should be released and the fact it hasn't is total ********. Put me on the list of people who want it released and for people to be held accountable.no actually what irks me is that you went from caring deeply that the epstein list be released, to just not caring at all. Why? Because Trump told you to.
TBF, Trump makes Trump look childish and moronic.Trump wants no part of a verbal fight with Newsome. Newsome makes him look childish and moronic.
well, on your last paragraph, it's already out there that 1. trump was friends with Epstein until 2. Trump kicked him out of Mar a Lago and 3. some of the victims have publicly said trump was not engaged with sex with minors. Hanging out with Epstein is not a crime for either Trump or democrats which might be involvedLike almost anyone on here, I have no freaking idea of what's going on with the Epstein files.
I do think that there's not much doubt that Epstein was enticing underage girls to hook up with his friends/business associates.
And just to be clear on terms, I think about it like this. Underage women = girls. And sex with someone under the age of consent/non consentual sex = rape.
And everyone involved (or just around at the time) wants no part of any of this. Lot's of really rich and powerful folks were associating with Epstein back in the day and they definitely didn't WANT to know the age of any of these girls. They either hooked up with them, turned a blind eye to what was going on, or just didn't notice what was going on. While I suppose that option 3 isn't terrible, there's no good look among those options and no one wants to be associated with the situation even if they did nothing wrong.
Trump's no different. And everyone on this board knows what I think of Trump, but to me, he's innocent of anything involving this until he's actually found guilty. Just b/c I don't like him doesn't mean he did something wrong. And fyi, no matter WHAT the Epstein files show, the statute of limitations applies and no one is going to jail for this. That's the unfortunate fact of the matter.
IMHO, this is what's going on with the Trump Administration and the Epstein files: They went after this issue b/c it was low hanging fruit during the election. Again, I've no idea what's in those files if anything. The DOJ during the Biden administration took over the investigation from the Trump administration and they told us there was nothing to see here... As Trump himself pointed out just today, you can give people everything and they won't be satisfied... This is EXACTLY what happened to the investigation when Biden was President. There was no list of people that were hooking up with underage girls and it looks like Epstein killed himself.
No doubt folks were doing that on Epstein's Island, but as with a lot of criminal activity, you generally try and hide that sort of thing, not collect evidence. I GUESS Epstein COULD have been collecting stuff for blackmail, but that seems like a spectacularly BAD idea to me. I mean, you have all these folks that you know and are friends with... POWERFUL and RICH people. And they are coming out to your place to have fun and bang young girls. I mean, you are on good terms with these folks and they would probably help you out if you needed it. And you try and blackmail them? That sounds like a good way to get a bullet to the back of the head when these folks are able to find said evidence and remember, these are the types of folks that have a ton of power and money to spend to find it.
Anyway, Trump gets elected and he and his administrators have done what they do best... run their mouths with little regard to the truth. Usually this works out fine for Trump as his supporters don't really care what he says or does. This one is different for some reason. So he gets in office and the MAGA folks are asking about the files. And again, Trump and his administrators do what they do best... run their mouths with little regard to the truth. So his AG, who probably hasn't even given the Epstein files more than a passing thought, is on the spot and she kicks the can down the road by saying that these files on on her desk and they will be released shortly (like Trump's healthcare plan). But (unlike the healthcare plan) this simply won't go away and Trump and company are finally forced to fess up agree with the Biden Administration that there's nothing to see here.
But of course they can't just say, Biden and Company were right and we've been bitching about nothing. So now this subject that they were having a fit about is a "Democratic Hoax" when they are forced to talk about it. And god knows Trump has been doing and saying damn near everything to make this go away, but it just won't. I do think that eventually all of it will be released and we'll see that a lot of folks (including Trump) will be in those files, but will not be implicated in any crime. They will just be busted as hanging out with Epstein.
I agree... In fact in another paragraph, I said this:well, on your last paragraph, it's already out there that 1. trump was friends with Epstein until 2. Trump kicked him out of Mar a Lago and 3. some of the victims have publicly said trump was not engaged with sex with minors. Hanging out with Epstein is not a crime for either Trump or democrats which might be involved
i've seen the argument in your last sentence expressed before...and attributed to Trump. For me, I don't know what everyone expects to get from the Epstein filesI agree... In fact in another paragraph, I said this:
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Trump's no different. And everyone on this board knows what I think of Trump, but to me, he's innocent of anything involving this until he's actually found guilty. Just b/c I don't like him doesn't mean he did something wrong. And fyi, no matter WHAT the Epstein files show, the statute of limitations applies and no one is going to jail for this. That's the unfortunate fact of the matter.
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Just my opinion with NOTHING to back it up... I don't think he was having sex with minors either.
Again, this applies to everyone in those files... and if there's nothing there then release the files... ALL OF THEM. But the fact is that a LOT of Trump folks have been going on and on about releasing the files and all of a sudden... Trump isn't doing it. Why is that? That's a legit question and applies to Biden and company as much as it does to Trump and company. I suspect that there's not enough in these files to convict anyone, but there's plenty there to make a LOT of people look really bad. So by releasing them, whoever does it makes a ton of people really pissed off and yet doesn't provide anything like enough to have them put away... so by releasing them you've just got a ton of really rich people mad at you and nothing in return.
I had to read that a couple of times because that was a really good post.I agree... In fact in another paragraph, I said this:
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Trump's no different. And everyone on this board knows what I think of Trump, but to me, he's innocent of anything involving this until he's actually found guilty. Just b/c I don't like him doesn't mean he did something wrong. And fyi, no matter WHAT the Epstein files show, the statute of limitations applies and no one is going to jail for this. That's the unfortunate fact of the matter.
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Just my opinion with NOTHING to back it up... I don't think he was having sex with minors either.
Again, this applies to everyone in those files... and if there's nothing there then release the files... ALL OF THEM. But the fact is that a LOT of Trump folks have been going on and on about releasing the files and all of a sudden... Trump isn't doing it. Why is that? That's a legit question and applies to Biden and company as much as it does to Trump and company. I suspect that there's not enough in these files to convict anyone, but there's plenty there to make a LOT of people look really bad. So by releasing them, whoever does it makes a ton of people really pissed off and yet doesn't provide anything like enough to have them put away... so by releasing them you've just got a ton of really rich people mad at you and nothing in return.
Plot twist