Favorite THR Quotes....

[KellenPatrick]

The always comical Archer:

LOM stands for Leader of Men which is his way of taking a jab at K. What an idiot.

"I agree WWJD. Jeter is likely to be relegated to spot duty off the bench behind the "latest and greatest" OAD's. Why these kids keep drinking the Kaylaid is beyond me. You're his boy until someone with more talent walks through the door, then you're a bum.

Remember, the LOM only had five measly players this year. So with his usual starting lineup, Jeter and Kennard didn't even qualify as "players". What an insult and a crock of shite! There are very few teams in the country that wouldn't have started Kennard, one of the top five shooters in the nation. And top 15 big man Jeter would have started for many teams, he certainly would have gotten a lot of burn.

How can you tell the LOM is lying?

His lips are moving."

 

[DukeDenver]

And the moron DSouthr one more time:

"Especially when you consider how great a player jefferson is, I mean his injury was the ONLY repeat ONLY reason duke did not win it all this season, dukies told us that all season did they not. If Jefferson does not start how can he win ACC POY, NCAA 1st team and favorite for NCAA POY, and be a sure fire lotto guy if not the clear #1 in the draft?"

he always does this huge exaggeration thing about Amile. But yeah, dummy, losing him did hurt the team pretty bad.

Yeah, not one comment was every posted here about Amile being awarded any of those honors. I don't think anyone even said we we'd be favs to win a title with Jefferson in the lineup. Final Four team probably, but no one claimed we'd definitely have won. We definitely would've curb stomped the cheats three times though.

 

[KellenPatrick]

Another resident THR clown, Heelicious:

"Thornton confirmed his transfer today. That is a fact.... here is speculation.

Jeter, et al not far behind him....

The revolving door continues and The Rat has the engine on the revolving door revved up.

So nice of the Leader of Men (barf) to look out for Thornton. Nice. Rat prolly straight up told Thornton he'd get to practice all year, and maybe get a couple minutes here and there if they were up by 30 on someone, but otherwise its pine city, baby!

It just warms the heart how much the Rat looks out for his players and works to develop them. Sick. I wonder if whacking Thornton was a condition for Bolden to come to the cesspool. What a way to run a program. All about the development of the student athlete. Funny thing is.... if you accumulated the kids that transferred out of Dook, and put them together as a team of seniors, that OTHER programs have developed (Gbinije, Salumon, etc) - they'd give Dook a run for their money.

Just think if we had this FUBAR of a program at UNC - we'd have never had guys like Britt, Brice, Joel James, .... and in the past guys like Deon Thompson, Jawad Williams, etc on the team product for us.... if we were like Rat and looked out only for the new OAD guy we recruited over the 4 -year developing guy, and just throw away the guy who isn't a star as a freshman.

Why don't we hear more in the media about what a transfer factory Dook is? Or am I missing it, and the transfer factory is good for the game, what the NCAA and the universities should want, for "developing these student athletes".

The Dookie recruits must be getting paid well by Bag Man Capel..... how else can you explain them just ignoring Rat and Capel just royally screwing up the first couple years of these college kids lives, throwing them under the bus, having them sit out (lose) a year, etc.

Would be awesome to hear people like Thornton and other transfers spill the inside stuff on how slimy the whole process is for them, if they aren't instant automatic stars, regardless of what they were promised when they were recruited.

Talk about kids getting used and thrown away. Rat treats the kids like prostitutes, bought for a year, but I'd guess most prostitutes get treated with more respect and dignity, than Rat shows to his high-recruits on the middle of his bench (ie - the guys beyond the "only 5-6" players he had this year."

 

[KellenPatrick]

Archer again. Ha haa:

"Look Tru, you're one of the few dook posters I respect. If you're happy with K's program, fine. I'm just glad he's coaching at dook and not UNC.

Roy does recruit OAD's but they're never going to dominate his program like they do at dook and UK. That's just not his M.O. And I'm so happy it's not. It's the main reason why UNC rarely lands OAD's.

I wouldn't trade one Marcus Paige or Brice Johnson for a dozen Brandon Ingrams."

Good thing they are sooo glad that they don't get top 10 players every year. Are they "glad" or is that the obvious thing for their jealous arses to say since they know they aren't getting any anyways?? LOLLL.

 

[KellenPatrick]

Love how they always talk as if they personally chat with Roy and know exactly was his thinking/philosophies are. Like dummy Archer here saying that having one and dones dominate the program is not Roy's MO. Yeah, he would have told Giles, Tatum and Jackson that he didn't want them or that, darnit all, they are gonna be freshmen and act as such! Lol.

 

[chov1125]

Another resident THR clown, Heelicious:

"Thornton confirmed his transfer today. That is a fact.... here is speculation.

Jeter, et al not far behind him....

The revolving door continues and The Rat has the engine on the revolving door revved up.

So nice of the Leader of Men (barf) to look out for Thornton. Nice. Rat prolly straight up told Thornton he'd get to practice all year, and maybe get a couple minutes here and there if they were up by 30 on someone, but otherwise its pine city, baby!

It just warms the heart how much the Rat looks out for his players and works to develop them. Sick. I wonder if whacking Thornton was a condition for Bolden to come to the cesspool. What a way to run a program. All about the development of the student athlete. Funny thing is.... if you accumulated the kids that transferred out of Dook, and put them together as a team of seniors, that OTHER programs have developed (Gbinije, Salumon, etc) - they'd give Dook a run for their money.

Just think if we had this FUBAR of a program at UNC - we'd have never had guys like Britt, Brice, Joel James, .... and in the past guys like Deon Thompson, Jawad Williams, etc on the team product for us.... if we were like Rat and looked out only for the new OAD guy we recruited over the 4 -year developing guy, and just throw away the guy who isn't a star as a freshman.

Why don't we hear more in the media about what a transfer factory Dook is? Or am I missing it, and the transfer factory is good for the game, what the NCAA and the universities should want, for "developing these student athletes".

The Dookie recruits must be getting paid well by Bag Man Capel..... how else can you explain them just ignoring Rat and Capel just royally screwing up the first couple years of these college kids lives, throwing them under the bus, having them sit out (lose) a year, etc.

Would be awesome to hear people like Thornton and other transfers spill the inside stuff on how slimy the whole process is for them, if they aren't instant automatic stars, regardless of what they were promised when they were recruited.

Talk about kids getting used and thrown away. Rat treats the kids like prostitutes, bought for a year, but I'd guess most prostitutes get treated with more respect and dignity, than Rat shows to his high-recruits on the middle of his bench (ie - the guys beyond the "only 5-6" players he had this year."

That idiot was so sure that he made the comment of the century that he copy and pasted that same exact short novel into multiple threads....The jealousy and hate is actually quite flattering....The more incompetent and incoherent their nonsense becomes, the prouder it makes me as a Duke fan.

 

[HuffyJB]

However glad they are that K is our coach, I am that glad times 600 million.

UNC fans have come to be known for rationalizing. It is their defining characteristic. I.e., they only lost because of the officials.

Or Roy doesn't want One and dones (even though he recruits them - he just doesn't land them). Or if a recruit goes somewhere else, it is not because he doesn't like what Roy is selling, it is because he is shady/has handlers/shading coaches, etc.

Or casting aspersions about other programs and their academic integrity, when their program's academics has become a laughing stock. So on and so forth. It is who they are.

 

[chov1125]

Love how they always talk as if they personally chat with Roy and know exactly was his thinking/philosophies are. Like dummy Archer here saying that having one and dones dominate the program is not Roy's MO. Yeah, he would have told Giles, Tatum and Jackson that he didn't want them or that, darnit all, they are gonna be freshmen and act as such! Lol.

The same can be found on UK's board. They say everything in a matter of fact way regarding conversations between K and players and compare them to conversations had between Cal and players as well as Roy and players. It really is remarkable

 

[matthew1]

Gary 7 apparently speaks with Roy and his coaching staff

1. Mikey l, I just got clarification of something I suspected. Roy and the staff were none too pleased when they found out who was assigned to ref the title game, in particular, Stephens. Publicly of course the most they will ever say is that they have "not done well" or have "had issues" with him....privately they believe he has an agenda and a chip on his shoulder vis a vis Carolina.
   
   Unfortunately, as we saw, all that trepidation came to fruition in spades Monday night. Also, some of the players thought they were all but being baited for a Technical at times. One poster here noticed that with Kennedy after that gawdawful foul call on the loose ball in the second half, and he would be correct. Again, as I understand it our players were wary that he might T them up (whether from pre-warnings from our staff or from the vibe they were getting on the floor, that I don't know)... and that's no way to have to play a championship game.

How delusional is that guy. He confirmed Roy was upset about the refs and the UNC players were being baited into Ts. Holy crap they are salty still

 

[chov1125]

At least 5 people will read that on their board and believe it as being true. Not sure which is worse the poster or the reader...

 

[Showenuff]

Archer again.
"Roy does recruit OAD's but they're never going to dominate his program like they do at dook and UK. That's just not his M.O. And I'm so happy it's not. It's the main reason why UNC rarely lands OAD's."


LMFAO, yea that's why. You friggin moron.

 

[KellenPatrick]

TPFKAPFS...I think :

"Apparently, you guys need a refresher on African American culture! We as a people believe in the inclusion of very close friends into our families. MY father had a friend that I have grown up calling uncle and his son, cousin. They are not related by blood, but they ARE family! MY son calls my best friend Uncle(HIS daughters call me uncle as well) as well and nobody can question his inclusion into my family, even though his white skin might make you want to question our relationship. If the Thorntons say he is their uncle then none of you holier than thou arse wipes have the right to say he isn't!

The difference between Roy and ratty is clear. Just like there is a difference between what happened with Thornton and Henson. One coach sat down with the family and player and explained how the change would help the player; one coach forced the kid out for the good of the program! Jackson's recruitment is not the one proving ratty is a POS; it is Bolden's. Every coach recruits depth at positions and replacements for peeps, BUT only a select few (Cal, K, etc) are willing to force peeps to transfer OR cut them in order to make room for a higher ranked recruit! Only a select few are willing to convince a kid to skip a year of HS and then, if they don't immediately become stars, throw them out like yesterday's trash! BTW: I only know of ONE coach that is quoted as saying a recruit was messing up his program by going pro! AND I know of ONE coach in the triangle with undisputed proof that he is a LIAR! Spin that!

While you JCDers support a rat's nest that feeds on its own- WE ARE A FAMILY!"

They are family. Lollllll.

50 TPFKAPFS, Today at 10:56 AM

 

[Anon1728003274]

"The 7 Year Itch" (Marliyn Monroe flick) REMAINED unscratched this year guys...(2009 natty, while Duke has won two since)....Its a long summer of chafing on their board, "sinful" as Roy would say....

Funny, if Roy had just listened to "player-coach" Pinson on that last play, "somebody pick up Jenkins," the petition might not have been necessary..,tsk, tsk...

OFC

 

[denniden]

Archer again.
"Roy does recruit OAD's but they're never going to dominate his program like they do at dook and UK. That's just not his M.O. And I'm so happy it's not. It's the main reason why UNC rarely lands OAD's."


LMFAO, yea that's why. You friggin moron.

One and dones do not dominate the UNC program because they decided to go elsewhere. Look at the amount of offers Roy throws out every year and the where they rank in that class. Roy just can't land them. It's as simple as that. Their fans can believe what they want in this regard, but that doesn't make it true. Not by a long shot.

 

[matthew1]

Another Gary Gem. This time, he's comparing K to Saban with "processing" player. He's something else

K is as dirty and mercenary in his own way as Nick Saban at bama in football. bama is notorious for over-recruiting and "processing" players out quickly who don't contribute. Where everyone else is working with 85 schollies they have a de facto 100 because of the sheer numbers they process out (ask Chizik how he feels about that crap). By now going the one-and-done route along with his own "processing" K is doing the same thing.

Saban and K are both capable coaches but I have zero respect for their short-cuts.

 

[twdukefan]

However glad they are that K is our coach, I am that glad times 600 million.

UNC fans have come to be known for rationalizing. It is their defining characteristic. I.e., they only lost because of the officials.

Or Roy doesn't want One and dones (even though he recruits them - he just doesn't land them). Or if a recruit goes somewhere else, it is not because he doesn't like what Roy is selling, it is because he is shady/has handlers/shading coaches, etc.

Or casting aspersions about other programs and their academic integrity, when their program's academics has become a laughing stock. So on and so forth. It is who they are.

Perfect description of what seems to be said on THR

 

[KellenPatrick]

Another Gary Gem. This time, he's comparing K to Saban with "processing" player. He's something else

K is as dirty and mercenary in his own way as Nick Saban at bama in football. bama is notorious for over-recruiting and "processing" players out quickly who don't contribute. Where everyone else is working with 85 schollies they have a de facto 100 because of the sheer numbers they process out (ask Chizik how he feels about that crap). By now going the one-and-done route along with his own "processing" K is doing the same thing.

Saban and K are both capable coaches but I have zero respect for their short-cuts.

Gary is such a ridiculous dork. That guy is nauseating.

 

[RanDEVILman]

Pretty sure the upcoming Duke team has 3 (Allen, Jones, Jefferson) players that will be contributing big time as upperclassmen. Too bad none of them developed though. Speaking of developing talent...how'd did Roys development of OAD types like McAdoo and Barnes turn out? What about developing the jump shots of Tokoto and Strickland? Are they really developing Joel James and Britt. I mean Britt can;'t even decide which hand to shoot with. James is about to be a 6th yr senior and he still cant score unless hes dunking the ball, which is happening less and less because he appears to be eating the food that Meeks has given up for his diet.

 

[Laettner]

I'm looking forward to them whining next year about CBS placing Jenkins national championship buzzer beater in the opening montage & replaying it over & over & over. They'll have to watch Nova's dagger shot a gazillion times like UK fans see Laettner. The gift that keeps on giving until the end of time!

I don't frequent THR but sure seems like they tear down K & Duke to soothe UNC's shortcomings since 2009.

 

[HuffyJB]

Justin Jackson is the only top ten kid in his class who still hasn't done enough to move on to the NBA. All the rest are already in the league.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

You use the women's bathroom don't you..........................

Ironic that you have questioned the maturity of others, before tossing this nonsense out there.

 

[tison31]

Pretty sure the upcoming Duke team has 3 (Allen, Jones, Jefferson) players that will be contributing big time as upperclassmen.

^ This. If players stay It is because Coach K talks them into staying---If they leave, he pushes them out the door to make room for others. It's a matter of what makes sense for the Car Wheels at the moment and everything is based on fact and not one word is simply non biased opinion. How can you not love em? They simply can't help being moron's. I think it is an accredited class at UNC. OFC

 

[Mark Gastineau]

One and dones do not dominate the UNC program because they decided to go elsewhere. Look at the amount of offers Roy throws out every year and the where they rank in that class. Roy just can't land them. It's as simple as that. Their fans can believe what they want in this regard, but that doesn't make it true. Not by a long shot.

100% spot on. They can rationalize Roy's "system" all they want. At the end of the day, his roster is more a product of his failures and less a product of deliberate strategy.

 

[topps coach]

Gary is such a ridiculous dork. That guy is nauseating.

He cannot be that obnoxious in person because where I come from he would getting his *** kicked on a daily basis

 

[KellenPatrick]

More rationalizing as to why they don't get top talent from that beauty Archer:

"Of course he would like to have some of them, therefore the offers. But he's not going to make them the focal point of his teams like K and Cal routinely do. Why do you think OAD's rarely sign with UNC? He runs a more complicated offense than dook or UK and it requires more experience to be executed effectively. Ergo, all other things being equal, he defers to upperclassmen. Guys whose main goal is to get to the league ASAP know this, as do their parents and handlers. Roy also doesn't tell recruits that they will start, a tactic I firmly believe both Cal and the LOM employ with elite OAD recruits. What more effective way to keep the OAD pipeline of top 10 players flowing?

How many OAD's have we had at UNC, a couple? There's a reason for that and it goes beyond the investigation. I do believe that the interminable investigation has hampered our recruiting of players ranked 11-30, very good players who are considered to be at least 2-3 year college players. We're signing more guys in the 30-60 range than we used to, the incoming class being a prime example. None are ranked in the top 30 nationally. That used to be almost unheard of at UNC.

When/if UNC has multiple OAD's on one team, come back and talk to us. I don't expect the resolution of the NCAA investigation to have much, if any, effect on our ability to sign OAD's.

I don't know how to say this any plainer. If dook fans are happy having a revolving door of OAD's coming and going every year, fine. But you guys sure are spending a lot of time trying to justify it. As Bill would say, methinks he doth protest too loudly."

Yeah, Roy wouldn't make Harry Giles and Jayson Tatum the focal point of his team. And Roy's "system" is way too complicated for freshmen. Lollll, those clowns are such great free entertainment.

 

[denniden]

When or if UNC can land a couple OADS, then we can have a better discussion. Until then Roy will continue to recruit and offer just as many as everyone else. Taking the "our offense is more complicated" stance is making excuses of the recruiting misses. It happens. Duke missed for a lot of years on the same types, but is now landing them more, and with throwing out less offers than Roy and UNC.. UNC offered every single OAD Duke has had over the last 5 years. Do UNC fans think that Roy just put the offer out there for window dressing or that he would have taken them in a second had they committed? I think everyone knows the answer to that.

 

[HuffyJB]

A Roy Williams designed offense is too complicated? I have absolutely heard everything.

 

[GAAP_rivals]

A Roy Williams designed offense is too complicated?

That's why he calls so many time outs...never mind.

 

[Laettner]

The Ref conspiracies crack me up. If Jordan, Wallace & Jamison officiated Nova game the baby blue faithful would still complain.

If we sweep them next season, they'll be calling for Roy's head again.

 

[chov1125]

I applaud our guys for going over to THR and attempting to reason with the unreasonable, but I highly doubt it will ever do any good with that group....Even when our guys post specific players in specific years and point to specific facts when making our arguments the only retaliation THR has are the typical conclusory opinions stated as facts routine.....Even when those opinions fly right in the face of specific facts, namely how UNC has offered every single OAD player that Duke has landed over the years.


What gives me the biggest chuckle is when they argue among themselves and call each other out for posting conclusive opinions rather than "quality" factual posts and then proceed to do the exact same thing they just critiqued.

 

[dbav]

I just got banned, haha.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

This thread is just an all-around joke: https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/im-hearing-bolden-to-dook.37155/

I love how they summarily dismiss actual evidence contradicting their opinions that they deem fact.

 

[Tlass]

I just got banned, haha.

Been there... done that dbav.. welcome to the club.. LOL

 

[topps coach]

That's why he calls so many time outs...never mind.

They run probably the complex offensive system in the NCAA.It consists of a wild shot that has little chance of going in.They then crash two players to the glass and firmly use two hands to push the defensive rebounders out of position so they can't the putback

 

[skysdad]

I just got banned, haha.

Now with that out of the way you're much better off. OFC

 

[KellenPatrick]

gunslingerdick with more rationalizing as to why Roy can't land any top guys:

"I agree here. Roy doesn't have success with OADs because Roy isn't going to hand the keys to the machine over to a guy that just stepped foot on campus regardless of how talented he is. And our system is not conducive to OADs showing off their talent - not only from a minutes per game standpoint but also from a shots per game standpoint. More often than not, juniors and seniors get the lion's share of the called plays in our system because Roy trusts them more than a kid who just got there.

OADs that come to Carolina aren't OAD. They're probably going to need at least 2 years to show off in our system under Roy's philosophy. So it's inaccurate to say that Roy misses on OAD kids. A more accurate way of saying it is that Roy misses on kids that want to be OAD. And I'm ok with that. Basically, what I'm saying is that if kids were forced to stay for 2 or 3 or 4 years, his strikeout rate with top 10 talent would be much, much lower. And the numbers bear that out. If you look at Roy's recruiting before the era when every player that scored 30 points in a meaningless AAU game thinks they're OAD, he was consistently one of the top recruiters. So what that tells me is that while Roy might recruit kids that want to get to the league as fast as possible, he's basically sending the message that he's not going to fast track them unless it's a perfect fit for his style and what he wants to accomplish on a team level."

 

[DiehardDukeFan4Life]

I just got banned, haha.

Welcome to the club. I've actually been banned from their twice with the same ID lol

 

[skysdad]

gunslingerdick with more rationalizing as to why Roy can't land any top guys:

"I agree here. Roy doesn't have success with OADs because Roy isn't going to hand the keys to the machine over to a guy that just stepped foot on campus regardless of how talented he is. And our system is not conducive to OADs showing off their talent - not only from a minutes per game standpoint but also from a shots per game standpoint. More often than not, juniors and seniors get the lion's share of the called plays in our system because Roy trusts them more than a kid who just got there.

OADs that come to Carolina aren't OAD. They're probably going to need at least 2 years to show off in our system under Roy's philosophy. So it's inaccurate to say that Roy misses on OAD kids. A more accurate way of saying it is that Roy misses on kids that want to be OAD. And I'm ok with that. Basically, what I'm saying is that if kids were forced to stay for 2 or 3 or 4 years, his strikeout rate with top 10 talent would be much, much lower. And the numbers bear that out. If you look at Roy's recruiting before the era when every player that scored 30 points in a meaningless AAU game thinks they're OAD, he was consistently one of the top recruiters. So what that tells me is that while Roy might recruit kids that want to get to the league as fast as possible, he's basically sending the message that he's not going to fast track them unless it's a perfect fit for his style and what he wants to accomplish on a team level."

That is amazing. How did he come up with that. Just simply amazing. OFC

 

[KellenPatrick]

It really is amazing. Those clowns always talk about Roy's "system" and "philosophies" as if they are in direct contact with him. What a bunch of delusional fools.

 

[acc hoops]

Ruffin66 game up with a great quote last night. In the thread about which UNC player may leave for the NBA he says " Meeks may be the next coming of Wes Unseld. "