Ah, but you're talking about words, and I quote -
Just throwing darts, huh? You typed it as a scenario with ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF anything like that occurred. And then say, "I plainly stated I didn't think anything racial was said" .
This is just stupid. No need for you to “think” what Howard said to Gard. We know what was said because both men said it. Just an incredibly dumb example.
I typed it as a possibility to show that something was said that pushed JH over the edge. It’s not my fault that you are too stupid to understand that concept.
We will have to agree to disagree. I have watched the video numerous times, and I hold Howard 100% to blame.
Stop dissembling. You claimed that you could be pushed to throwing hands by words (emotionally immature). Now you're moving the goalposts by saying that physical contact is the culprit (which could be reasonable)
That was your interpretation of what I meant. So be it. However you would be wrong. You can’t look at those separate things in a bubble. Any rational person knows and can see that the event as a whole (physical and verbal) is what caused the final result of JH slapping an opposing coach. Just because I didn’t address them both in a post doesn’t mean they both didn’t contribute to what ultimately happened.
It's not my interpretation, man. It IS EXACTLY what you said:
Key word is push. That means a contributing factor not the only factor. So like I said, the final match to light that powder keg.
To push someone to do something is to make them do it, not just make them inclined them to do it. Maybe the word you want is "encourage"
I find it weird to randomly and voluntarily take the story in this direction, and I've seen stuff like this in both threads about what happened. Just to let you know, not every black person lies about racism or uses it as an excuse. No surprise that some who liked your post also hated the half time show as well.
The same few do this in numerous of threads . Very few call them out on it though .
And the worst part is that after he didn’t, they’re not big enough men to come back and admit they’re wrong. It’s because they are racists and lack human decency. Any decent human would apologize.
Bottom line is that words are NEVER an excuse to hit someone, no matter how offensive, and to use words as an excuse to go hands-on shows an extreme lack of emotional maturity
See I just disagree with that. People should not be able to do and say whatever they want to someone. Sometimes people say things and deserve to get punched in the mouth. They just do.
Words alone I agree. Words on top of other aggressive actions, I disagree. Words in conjunction with other actions, certainly allow of a physical response.
I agree in that I loath Michigan and Wisconsin and go a step further and hope Cal doesnt engage with a series with Michigan anytime soon.
That's true, when Biden uses the N word context matters, but when Joe Rogan uses it context doesn't matter.
So, what you're really trying to say is… .this is the better of the 2 threads… right? That's the most important thing here. My thread (party) is better than JFCats's thread.
Yep. Some of them couldn't help themselves so much that they did it in this thread and something similar in the Patrick Ewing thread. It drives me nuts.
I’m sorry I get what you’re saying but it’s part of the English language. Scrum has a literal definition in the dictionary of “a disorderly crowd of people or things”. If corner kick had an alternative definition, I’d get the comparison
Because Howard didnt just try to walk by. He pulled his mask down and said “I’ll remember that ****” and then Gard put his hand on his arm to try to explain. If Howard didn’t want a discussion, Howard should have kept his mouth shut and did a blow by.
I hope you're not suggesting that because of a few idiots, it's just a matter of time before Howard accuses Gard of using the N word. It's insane that I need to say this, but NOT EVERY AFRICAN AMERICAN IS THE SAME. They are individuals. Just because a dumbass actor for instance lied does not mean that every other black male in the country is going to do the same after some sort of altercation. My goodness.
I'm not sure what this has to do with Howard. Some here wanted to and have introduced race into the discussion and I'm not sure why. Now you're bringing up Biden and Rogan. The story should be Howard going off and doing something he shouldn't have. Instead, some seem to want the story to become "Well, these blacks ya know, they'll use any excuse to call us whites racist...and how about that Biden being racist too and look how unfair Rogan is being treated. Yeah, he used the N word but I kinda agree with him on certain topics so why are people so upset with him?" Just seems like you and others are trying to lead this conversation where it doesn't need to go at this time.
Agree. He goaded Gard into an altercation because he wanted one. No mouthing off, no incident. 100% what Howard wanted. All on him though.
Playing hockey I was taught the one who retaliates, is usually the one getting the penalty. So I kind of look at this situation with that mentality. I agree the Wisc coach wasn’t an innocent bystander, but the only thing people will remember is Howard throwing a blow at an opposing coach.
