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FlabLoser

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How is the convention center doing in Jackson? I remember Harvey Johnson, Ben Allen, and a bunch of people wanted it built so that Jackson could hold lots of conventions, etc. Also, what about the Farish Street project? Think a guy by the name of David Watkins, who I think was Ben Allen's buddy, put a lot of money into it.

It is steadily booked with smallish events. Need a lot more development downtown for bigger stuff.
 

fishwater99

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Terrible public schools(I agree, good reason to move if you have kids), lack of anything resembling culture(I disagree..Jackson has more than anywhere else in MS, and it's not even close), no really good place to go and have a good time(the only bars in the area are in Jackson and the only good live music, Ardenland is doing a good job if you haven't noticed), lack of people under the age of 30 who don't have kids(more here in Jackson than the rest of the state), ****** job opportunities(I agree), ****** opportunities to advance in the marketplaces that are available(you must not know the right people) , it's not close to the beach(really), it's not close to the mountains(Duh), there really isn't a damn thing to do outside(bike, run, golf, kayak the Pearl, tennis, soccer,Leflurs Bluffs, Mayes Lake) where's the nice part of town?(Belhaven, Fondren, NEJx), no good pro teams to watch(Who in MS does), there's not even a decent movie theater in the city limits(It's Coming to NE Jackson). ****, name a good sports bar in Jackson(Twin Peaks, the Bulldog, Last call, Timeout). I dare you. You want me to keep going? If NEJ was crime free, Jackson would still be a shitbox.

I get it, by your standards the whole State of MS is a shitbox...
 
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Low income apartments off Ridgewood Rd, between Atkins and County Line Road, pretty much doomed the real estate values east of there. Values dropped in both Lake Trace and Northpointe, as I can personally attest to.

It really is amazing to me at how quickly those two neighborhoods (especially Lake Trace) turned to ****. When I graduated from JA in '03, that was a great area......the area in the corner between Ridgewood and Adkins was a little sketchy relative to everything east of there, but as a whole that was a nice area. By the time I finished up in Starkville, it was a completely different place.
 
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Mudbugs is good stuff

I really like the bugs, and it's got a good atmosphere.

However, I've either got to drive home down Lakeland or over the Reservoir with a Hinds County tag on my small black sedan. In the words of Todd Snider, it's a hard test not to fail.
 

Col. Forbin

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Madison doesn't have a great bar, I'll give you that and I'm really surprised no one has tried to put in something like the Bulldog. I guess it's teh demographic issue. The under 30 and unmarried population is pretty slim.

But I live off Highland Colony and I'm less than 10 minutes away from Grocery Stores, Cinemas, a crapload of decent food options and shopping. That plus the good public schools and I couldn't be happier with my decision to live here.


Its not so much the demographics that is the reason a real bar won't work. The police and Mary Hawkins is why there isn't one. A bar isn't going to survive if the patrons have to worry about getting pulled over everytime they leave the bar.
 
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This is a compromise city with no soul that has no history other than being the capital. That's it. It's like saying Indianapolis is a city with soul. Places that have more culture than Jackson in Mississippi: The entire north delta to include the 82 corridor (from juke joints to country clubs), the entire Mississippi Coast, Natchez, Oxford, Starkville, and anything around Memphis. These places have events, festivals, places to go, and things to do that are unlike things anywhere else. Jackson has terribly underfunded museums and a 3rd world zoo. That's not culture.

Saying that Jackson is the best place for commerce in the state is the most skinniest kid at fat camp analogy ever. Further, the only reason any of the commerce that exists here is actually here is because some ******* thought it would be a good idea to move the capital off the river. If the people who ran this state hadn't created a false economy here over 150 years ago, then this would just be somewhere between Vicksburg and Meridian.

You're right. I don't know the right people. That's another one of the problems. If you're not from here, you're not trusted. The cliques are strong.

I'll have to check out Mayes Lake. Never heard of it before. Running? Really? I can do that in Ruleville.

The coast has the Saints. Southaven has the Grizz.

Does Last Call still exist? I lock my doors when I drive by Timeout. The Bulldog has been overrun by Affliction afficionados.

By anyone's objective standards, most of MS IS a total shitbox.

While you can't understand why everybody has to "hate" on Jackson, I can't understand why people feel the need to defend it by making it something that it's not. Just accept what it is and try to make it better.

I could live in Greenville, Mississippi and be happy. I actually did, and I was because there were phenomenal people there. I mean that. Wonderfully genuine and warm people who openly welcomed me into their homes and their community. I miss them, and if it had been economically feasible, I would have stayed. With that said, some of that town looks like Beirut. I'm not going to act like it is some wonderful place whereby any objective observer would say that it was a great place to move to. It's not, but I love it. My loving it doesn't mean that I have to go around acting like the crime there isn't bad (it is) or that people who don't like it are just hating on it (They're not). That would make me a liar because I know that it's not a great place to move to. It has a ****-ton of problems that great places to live don't have.

Same for Jackson. It's a shitbox, but it's where I live. I have great friends here, and I am generally pretty happy. If I go around acting like Jackson is a great place to be, that makes me a liar. Because by any objective standard, it isn't. That was the whole point of my first post. Jackson's a shitbox, and anybody who says any differently is a liar.

Stop acting like you're sitting on a pile of roses. They're not roses, and everybody can see that, even you.
 

FlabLoser

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I'm as big a Jackson critic as anybody (except you apparently). But you aren't being fair.

The Children's Museum and the Science Museum are first class. They aren't huge. But they are first class. The art museum is really good. It was loaded with original Monets recently.

The Rhythm & Blues festival was great. Didn't have megastar headliners, but it was really good.

Celtic Fest is great. It drew national talent from New York.

There have been some other festivals I didn't go to.

Don't act like Jackson doesn't have festivals. It does. It has culture.

What it doesn't have is rubber stamped ticketmaster draws that other major cities have. While I'd like to see a major act play in Jackson, you can't honestly consider that stuff culture that is local to any city.
 

eckie1

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Not much left for you to do other than to just off yourself....

This is a compromise city with no soul that has no history other than being the capital. That's it. It's like saying Indianapolis is a city with soul. Places that have more culture than Jackson in Mississippi: The entire north delta to include the 82 corridor (from juke joints to country clubs), the entire Mississippi Coast, Natchez, Oxford, Starkville, and anything around Memphis. These places have events, festivals, places to go, and things to do that are unlike things anywhere else. Jackson has terribly underfunded museums and a 3rd world zoo. That's not culture.

Saying that Jackson is the best place for commerce in the state is the most skinniest kid at fat camp analogy ever. Further, the only reason any of the commerce that exists here is actually here is because some ******* thought it would be a good idea to move the capital off the river. If the people who ran this state hadn't created a false economy here over 150 years ago, then this would just be somewhere between Vicksburg and Meridian.

You're right. I don't know the right people. That's another one of the problems. If you're not from here, you're not trusted. The cliques are strong.

I'll have to check out Mayes Lake. Never heard of it before. Running? Really? I can do that in Ruleville.

The coast has the Saints. Southaven has the Grizz.

Does Last Call still exist? I lock my doors when I drive by Timeout. The Bulldog has been overrun by Affliction afficionados.

By anyone's objective standards, most of MS IS a total shitbox.

While you can't understand why everybody has to "hate" on Jackson, I can't understand why people feel the need to defend it by making it something that it's not. Just accept what it is and try to make it better.

I could live in Greenville, Mississippi and be happy. I actually did, and I was because there were phenomenal people there. I mean that. Wonderfully genuine and warm people who openly welcomed me into their homes and their community. I miss them, and if it had been economically feasible, I would have stayed. With that said, some of that town looks like Beirut. I'm not going to act like it is some wonderful place whereby any objective observer would say that it was a great place to move to. It's not, but I love it. My loving it doesn't mean that I have to go around acting like the crime there isn't bad (it is) or that people who don't like it are just hating on it (They're not). That would make me a liar because I know that it's not a great place to move to. It has a ****-ton of problems that great places to live don't have.

Same for Jackson. It's a shitbox, but it's where I live. I have great friends here, and I am generally pretty happy. If I go around acting like Jackson is a great place to be, that makes me a liar. Because by any objective standard, it isn't. That was the whole point of my first post. Jackson's a shitbox, and anybody who says any differently is a liar.

Stop acting like you're sitting on a pile of roses. They're not roses, and everybody can see that, even you.

And at the ripe old age of two, it would seem.

Seriously, you ******* homo. I've never seen anybody project misery like you do.

Woe is you. You embody everything that is wrong with the state of Mississippi.
 

Bro Montana

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I heard BB's is going to close.

I can't visualize how that Academy Sports is going to look. I read it is supposed to face Lakeland. So its back would be turned to Flowood Dr? That makes no sense. Maybe I am misunderstanding exactly where it is going to go.

And I am with you that a big box store right next to a nice park is not a good move.

What new parkway?

the he one time I went to Bonnie Blair's the place reeked of cheap *** cigarette smoke. Like the kind you know is just stuck to the walls and ****. I could barely drink a beer. Couldn't imagine eating anything in there. Granted that was when it was relatively new and they may have even gone smoke free since. But that one experience was enough to not bother going back.
 
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Have you been to Meek Hall for a play in the past couple of weeks? There are some people looking for you.

I got no problems with Mississippi. I love it. I just don't see anything redeeming about calling a thing something that it isn't. Call it what it is. If you like it, tell other people why. Maybe they'll like it too. If you lie to them they will eventually find out the truth and just resent you for it.
 

eckie1

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I can only assume that you just made some kind of Old Miss pun....

Have you been to Meek Hall for a play in the past couple of weeks? There are some people looking for you.

I got no problems with Mississippi. I love it. I just don't see anything redeeming about calling a thing something that it isn't. Call it what it is. If you like it, tell other people why. Maybe they'll like it too. If you lie to them they will eventually find out the truth and just resent you for it.

So, I'll just disregard whatever the hell that might mean. I'm sure it was an amazing joke, though.

But, it's obvious that you should commit hara kiri. Anybody who says any differently is a liar.
 

Palos verdes

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I might be wrong, but I think there can't be any bars in Flowood. I think Flowood liquor places have to have a certain percentage of revenue from food.

A bar in Madison? Not unless Queen Mary starts drinking.

Uhhh..does anyone want to comment on Flab's last sentence??
 

Palos verdes

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I once saw the Allman brothers at the Jackson Zoo. When the zoo closes, it won't be replaced. Central Mississippi simply won't have an actual zoo. Few will even care.
 

LastMajorDude

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I was at that concert also. First time I saw Warren Haynes with them. Good grief, nothing like the ABB on a hot day!!
I once saw the Allman brothers at the Jackson Zoo. When the zoo closes, it won't be replaced. Central Mississippi simply won't have an actual zoo. Few will even care.
 

thatsbaseball

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Just curious...why is this thread lingering

is there something that can be added that hasn`t already been said ? I don`t get it.
 

coach66

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Obviously you haven't bellied up to Chili's or Applebee's or the most

awesome of them all Georgia Blue where Jim Carmody will sign your glass if you buy him a drink*.
 

fishwater99

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This is a compromise city with no soul that has no history other than being the capital. That's it. It's like saying Indianapolis is a city with soul. Places that have more culture than Jackson in Mississippi: The entire north delta to include the 82 corridor (from juke joints to country clubs), the entire Mississippi Coast, Natchez, Oxford, Starkville, and anything around Memphis. These places have events, festivals, places to go, and things to do that are unlike things anywhere else. Jackson has terribly underfunded museums and a 3rd world zoo. That's not culture.

Saying that Jackson is the best place for commerce in the state is the most skinniest kid at fat camp analogy ever. Further, the only reason any of the commerce that exists here is actually here is because some ******* thought it would be a good idea to move the capital off the river. If the people who ran this state hadn't created a false economy here over 150 years ago, then this would just be somewhere between Vicksburg and Meridian.

You're right. I don't know the right people. That's another one of the problems. If you're not from here, you're not trusted. The cliques are strong.

I'll have to check out Mayes Lake. Never heard of it before. Running? Really? I can do that in Ruleville.

The coast has the Saints. Southaven has the Grizz.

Does Last Call still exist? I lock my doors when I drive by Timeout. The Bulldog has been overrun by Affliction afficionados.

By anyone's objective standards, most of MS IS a total shitbox.

While you can't understand why everybody has to "hate" on Jackson, I can't understand why people feel the need to defend it by making it something that it's not. Just accept what it is and try to make it better.

I could live in Greenville, Mississippi and be happy. I actually did, and I was because there were phenomenal people there. I mean that. Wonderfully genuine and warm people who openly welcomed me into their homes and their community. I miss them, and if it had been economically feasible, I would have stayed. With that said, some of that town looks like Beirut. I'm not going to act like it is some wonderful place whereby any objective observer would say that it was a great place to move to. It's not, but I love it. My loving it doesn't mean that I have to go around acting like the crime there isn't bad (it is) or that people who don't like it are just hating on it (They're not). That would make me a liar because I know that it's not a great place to move to. It has a ****-ton of problems that great places to live don't have.

Same for Jackson. It's a shitbox, but it's where I live. I have great friends here, and I am generally pretty happy. If I go around acting like Jackson is a great place to be, that makes me a liar. Because by any objective standard, it isn't. That was the whole point of my first post. Jackson's a shitbox, and anybody who says any differently is a liar.

Stop acting like you're sitting on a pile of roses. They're not roses, and everybody can see that, even you.

Wow, you really don't have a clue do you. Open your eyes and look around....

Just within the next week here are some events that show you how much you are missing in Jackson...

http://www.jacktoberfest.com/ (Free beer fest downtown tomorrow, it's great)

http://www.ardenland.net/shows.html (Local Music promoter, just had the Black Crowes and Jason Isbell is next Monday)

http://www.martinslounge.net/ (The Revivalists play this Saturday)

http://www.msmuseumart.org/
(Great work on display by Wyatt Watters from trip to Italy with Robert St. John)

http://www.ticketmaster.com/search?...r_search&user_input=Jackson,+ms&q=Jackson,+ms
Rodney Carrington this Friday night and Disney's the Beauty and the Beast next week at Thalia Mara Hall

You also just missed the International Gumbo Festival, which was great....

I suggest you grab a Thursday Clarion Ledger and a Jackson Free Press every week, and you will find more than enough things to do. But I get it, you like to ***** and complain. I bet we will be hearing it Saturday after LSU rolls your *** in Oxford...
 

horshack.sixpack

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We've yet to discuss this either...

 
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Since I've already taken one controversial stance, then I'll go ahead and throw this out there.

With regard to Michael Jackson, it is my humble opinion that, solely related to his music, it was all down hill after the Jackson 5.

I should add that I despise that whole 80's sound. It's only redeeming quality is that bitches love 80's music.
 

fishwater99

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I see you have no rebuttal to the variety of Culture currently available here in Jackson proper...

We are also having an open House at River Hills tonight, you should drop by, maybe you will make some connections..
 

WeWonItAll(Most)

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Question to some of you Jackson residents: How can y'all know people that have been held at gunpoint or mugged in your neighborhood and still feel safe? I've been a Jackson suburbanite pretty much my whole life and this has never happened in my neighborhood and I honestly can't even imagine it happening. The way y'all are posting it looks like y'all are saying "yea, my neighbor was held at gunpoint over an iPhone and a wallet, but its no big deal and its still a great place to live!!!"
 

johnson86-1

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Good Post....

I just don't understand the hate for Jackson.. Bunch of racists I guess..

I don't think it's racism as much as fear.

There are lots of things you could point to as holding Jackson back, but the biggest problem with jackson is the combination of ignorant voters and racial animosity. This is not unique to Jackson in Mississippi. Lots of towns in Mississippi have already been are in danger of being derailed by the same factors. I think a lot of people look at Jackson and see the future of their towns. And this isn't even unique to Mississippi. Memphis, Birmingham, and New Orleans have all battled with the same issue.
 
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Not all racists are white.

I don't think it's racism as much as fear.

There are lots of things you could point to as holding Jackson back, but the biggest problem with jackson is the combination of ignorant voters and racial animosity. This is not unique to Jackson in Mississippi. Lots of towns in Mississippi have already been are in danger of being derailed by the same factors. I think a lot of people look at Jackson and see the future of their towns. And this isn't even unique to Mississippi. Memphis, Birmingham, and New Orleans have all battled with the same issue.

Chokwe pretty much won the mayors race by saying the other guy was too white for a black man. I have never lived in Jackson but I have lived in Ridgeland and now Flowood for the last 10 years. It seems like Jackson keeps raising taxes and squeezing the people who actually pay taxes. If I was a single guy I might live there but we can drive to anywhere in Jackson pretty much within 20 or 30 minutes.

I don't really worry about crime in Flowood. I can get to Table 100, Cerami sp?, Elys (which is fantastic), Amerigo all in around 10 to 15 minutes. Unless I can walk to somewhere from my house I don't understand why living in Jackson would be better. It does make me sad to see what is happening to the State Capitol but I really don't know what can stop it without someone like Queen Mary just taking over and actually kicking peoples asses.

If I was the police commissioner I wouldn't even worry about busting people for weed or prostitution, just get the mugging and killing stopped first.
 
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