Yup, it’s a rare topic that fuels as many frivolous arguments as December rankings of NCAA wrestlers.
FLO Rankings 12-9-2025 Ohio State #1
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Luke learned that lesson last year. I have zero worries about this.
lillidahl dec bozakius 3-0
blaze dec Davino 6-0
Mendez mdec Ngao 6-4
SVN dec Stiles 9-4
Duke dec Cannon 12-4
Mitch mdec Paddy 16-4
Levi dec karchla 19-4
Rocco dec Fishback 22-4
Barr mdec Shumate 26-4
Feldman dec Cole 26-7
The best chances beyond that are Davino beating blaze would change the outcome to 23-10
maybe Bozakius could pull off an upset 20-13 would be the worst case scenario
i think a 23-10 score is very realistic and that is a very good Ohio State Team
blaze dec Davino 6-0
Mendez mdec Ngao 6-4
SVN dec Stiles 9-4
Duke dec Cannon 12-4
Mitch mdec Paddy 16-4
Levi dec karchla 19-4
Rocco dec Fishback 22-4
Barr mdec Shumate 26-4
Feldman dec Cole 26-7
The best chances beyond that are Davino beating blaze would change the outcome to 23-10
maybe Bozakius could pull off an upset 20-13 would be the worst case scenario
i think a 23-10 score is very realistic and that is a very good Ohio State Team
Unless Luke gets caught, he is going to light up bozakius
probably right but Bozakius's strength is a factor
File these rankings under it's way too early to
Take him down and let him up. Don't plat around on the mat with him.
Since Sanderson took over PSU has scored less than 103 points just two times, the 2009/2010 season and then in 2014/2015. I'm just saying.
I think a worst case looks something like below. Would be very entertaining and Bouzakis does have a pinner’s chance against LL.
Bouzakis dec Lilledahl 3-0
Blaze dec Davino 3 - 3
Mendez mdec Nagao 7-4
SVN dec Stiles 7-7
Cannon dec Duke 10-7
Mitch mdec Paddy 10-11
Levi dec karchla 10-14
Fishback dec Rocco 13-14
Barr mdec Shumate 13-18
Feldman dec Cole 16-18
I assumed that most here are like me and don’t care at all about rankings and let the results on the mat speak for themselves. But I see that at least 2 of the top active threads right now are about rankings, so maybe not.
Maybe we need a poll on posters’ view about rankings.
That match reminds me: all three of the U20 eligible guys ranked above MB (WrestleStat) got smoked by him this spring/summer. Davino, Fugitt and Larkin all got lit up. Zero takedowns given up in four matches. 31 points scored, 1 scored against him. Unless he ducks, Tyler Knox (Flo #6) will be his next higher-ranked victim.
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)
61 lbs 3rd Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Benjamin Davino, Ohio RTC/ Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC)www.flowrestling.org
61 kg 1st Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Zan Fugitt, Wisconsin Regional Training Center
61 kg 1st Place Match - Marcus Blaze, Titan Mercury Wrestling Club (TMWC) vs Zan Fugitt, Wisconsin Regional Training Centerwww.flowrestling.org
But, but, but... that's freestyle and in folk one can win without getting a takedown, especially if they can turn while giving a tough ride
But, but, but... that's freestyle and in folk one can win without getting a takedown, especially if they can turn while giving a tough ride
A single turn may not be enough to beat Marcus, unless they pin him. He’s known for being incredibly stingy defensively but, as demonstrated, he is quite a bit better than all of them from neutral, too.
Bozakius will show up to wrestle, not to use his strength to stall the match into a 3rd period single takedown setting. Luke wins this match with a tech or damn near one. In the post season Bozakius will have learned going at it with Luke is not a great idea and then he may slow things down. The dual match is going to be fun.
If we win, we get Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate for the football team; if he wins, he gets a case of Yuengling
I am old enough to remember when that was an exotic and valuable thing in the Chicagoland area. I had an aunt who lived in Pottsville and she brought a six pack of beer to my dad when visiting. I was the only kid in the Midwest with Yuengling cans to trade in my beer can collection (yes, I just dated myself).
Now you can't pass out on a bar without hitting your head on a Yuengling promotional item.
As the kind of fan who is always worried that a Penn State wrestler might get themselves in a bad position and get pinned against a lesser-ranked opponent (e.g. Taylor/Bubba, Dylan Alton/Dylan Ness, Truax/Rogotzke, Lilledahl/McCrone, Davis/Bouzakis) I get a lot of peace watching Marcus wrestle. Even as a true freshman he is so solid in his positioning and mat awareness/intelligence. As I have mentioned before, his defense alone will keep him in most matches, and his offense has been top notch recently while still not putting himself in dangerous positions.But, but, but... that's freestyle and in folk one can win without getting a takedown, especially if they can turn while giving a tough ride
Don't forget that rankings can affect seedings. Remember what happened to Mark Hall when he lost to Zahid in the NWCA all star match at the beginning of the season. So rankings do matter depending, of course, on who is doing the rankings.
And mccrones picture will be put on the wall as a national champion even though he won't wrestle in ncaa's. Not how Cael would do it but Tom does!The banner is going up in Covelli Center as we speak.
Only ranking that matters is the end of season coaching rankings.
Ratings & rankings are interesting because people consume them and people also just consistently disagree with them. They know they will ,and why , but they digest them regardless. I have respect for all of the "professional" wrestling media types, but to me, ratings and rankings are entirely useless endeavors. Especially for teams.Does anyone actually need flo or Intermat or some short dude hammered off Budweisers to tell you which team is the best? Granted, anyone that drinks Bud heavies is fine with me.
Re: Wrestlstat: It's been years, and I have yet to see anyone on here, or the other board, come up with their own ranking algorithm.
Re: Santa: Take that **** all the way back. Any hint that there's a reason not to believe in Santa is sacrilege and will be met with derision. I'll bet you stand around at Christmas parties discussing the impossibility of Christmas eve Santa logistics, while everyone else enjoys magic and cookies. Take. It. Back.
Maybe Minnesota can print tshirts for them as well.The banner is going up in Covelli Center as we speak.
The only ranking that matters is the end of season Coaches' ranking. Pundit rankings are for entertainment only.
I think I've told this story on the old board but not here ...
My brother attended grad school in California in the late 1990s. They held an "International Food Festival." He was responsible for Philly food (never mind that we grew up in Central PA and ate different stuff). Getting Tastykakes, pretzels, etc., was no problem.
Yuengling was another matter -- the closest distributor was in Phoenix. So he called and asked me to ship 2 cases of bottles to his apartment. Cost was no object.
Of course there was no way I was doing this in PA. So I drove to Delaware (no big deal living in Delco), bought 2 cases at Liquor World, then went to Mail Boxes Etc. When I entered MBE with 2 cases of beer, everybody looked at me like I had 3 eyes.
I told the MBE guy I needed the cases bubble wrapped with padding between the bottles, ground shipped, had to arrive in 1 week or less, and my brother would pick up -- no way we're leaving 2 cases of beer in the lobby of his college apartment building while he's on campus.
Total cost for beer + shipping: $300.
My brother sold them at the fair for $6.50 each, so he broke even.
Then he said he got reimbursed, so it was pure profit.
The event sponsor who paid $300 for Yuengling? Labatt.