FLO Rankings 12-9-2025 Ohio State #1

Goggles Paisano

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Well one little weekend and all will be correct (nearly) in the rankings world come Tuesday. The click bait firestorm abated as quickly as it came.

Blaze and Duke wrestled to how we see the world.

My hammer of the weekend award goes to Josh Barr. Lightning quick and powerful. I am sorry guys but anyone who thinks the pending wrestleoff is anything more than just a formality, ain't watching the same guy(s) I am. Conner had a fantastic run, but Josh? Holy cow!

Josh should be #1, but I will say Elam with that length is looking really really good, and he will give Josh a solid test. Anyone else? Foggetaboutit.
 

jstross

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Regarding Luke/Nate and Joe/PJ.... traditionally the matches between two Penn State wrestlers, are very very close, often overtime matches. This is due to the culture and the familiar nature of the team. Bartlett was forced to overtime by David Evans some time ago, and many many other examples. These rankings are using that against our starting guys this year. It will probably sort itself out eventually, but it might take until March because after all it is duck season right now. P.J. is supposed to wrestle the #5 guy this weekend... anyone else think that will actually happen?
It did and PJ won 5-2.
 
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Fatwoodchuck

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Idk, 8 points over under for ohio state dual. Seems fair to me. Ohio st is fudging sneaky good this year.

Im gonna make a prediction if ohio gets within 8 points in the dual this year ok state will be knocking sooner than later.

Predictuon: Ain't happening. With 70% confidence
 

PSUbluTX

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Idk, 8 points over under for ohio state dual. Seems fair to me. Ohio st is fudging sneaky good this year.

Im gonna make a prediction if ohio gets within 8 points in the dual this year ok state will be knocking sooner than later.

Predictuon: Ain't happening. With 70% confidence

Not sure what a Predictuon is, but if it allows you to be 70% confident about a future event, well then, that sounds like something the Flo rankers need to get their hands on. Might pair well with their Magic 8 Ball.

😜
 

pish69

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Easy. Check out the 157 rankings.
Flo really did some mental gymnastics on that one.
You have to read their explanation.
Really? I thought Kosak did a good job there. Watters didn’t deserve the 1 and Cannons had a great year thus far. Duke at 3 is better than the 11 they had him at
 

Nikko57

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I agree the ratings update isn't bad at all and actually is alot better.
To me it seems like what they did goes against what they say they normally do.
 
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Sportfan2017

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I just don't understand how a team can pass up two teams that were ahead of them last week, when they haven't beaten either team and neither team lost this weekend. In fact....tOSU soundly beat a top 4 team. Makes no sense. I guess all that bitching and moaning scared the rankers into changing their votes. SAD
 

mcpat

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I’ll give Flo credit, after creating a poll about their rankings with a voting option being how difficult it is to find the rankings on their app, they changed it and now they’re very easy to find.
 
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pish69

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I just don't understand how a team can pass up two teams that were ahead of them last week, when they haven't beaten either team and neither team lost this weekend. In fact....tOSU soundly beat a top 4 team. Makes no sense. I guess all that bitching and moaning scared the rankers into changing their votes. SAD
lol. I fell for it
 

Nikko57

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I just don't understand how a team can pass up two teams that were ahead of them last week, when they haven't beaten either team and neither team lost this weekend. In fact....tOSU soundly beat a top 4 team. Makes no sense. I guess all that bitching and moaning scared the rankers into changing their votes. SAD
Simple answer is they put Barr back in the rankings and #1. Although he is behind Elam in p4p rankings.
 

mcpat

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Marcus Blaze ranked 6th? Behind. 3 loss Ayala. Larkin who has same best win but forfeited a match that counts as a loss I believe with the new forfeit rules (I could be wrong but pretty sure that goes on official record).

Thats my only nitpick this week
Yeah - after what Blaze did to Knox, all they did was flip flop the two.
 

pish69

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Why not redo 133 like they did 157?
The good thing most of these rankings will change once we get head to head matches.
I guess they’re not dropping Drake from 4 because his 3 losses are to 1,2 and 3. Larkin and Blaze have similar resumes but I’d ding him for the FF
 

98lberEating2Lunches

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I just don't understand how a team can pass up two teams that were ahead of them last week, when they haven't beaten either team and neither team lost this weekend. In fact....tOSU soundly beat a top 4 team. Makes no sense. I guess all that bitching and moaning scared the rankers into changing their votes. SAD
It's tournament scoring based on a model not dual meet. PSU never fell from the #1 dual meet spot.
 
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98lberEating2Lunches

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Marcus Blaze ranked 6th? Behind a 3 loss Ayala. Behind Larkin who has same best win but forfeited a match that counts as a loss I believe with the new forfeit rules (I could be wrong but pretty sure that goes on official record).

Thats my only nitpick this week
Expected based on how they do things
 

Sportfan2017

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It's just that I think I've seen similar sentiments before
You definitely have. I have too. That's why I wrote what I thought was a ridiculous sarcastic post. Now I am lumped in with the very group I was trying to make fun of. I think I need the Spyker Bundle.........or a couple more bottles of this Flying Dog Double Dog 12% beer. This stuff really works and tastes good too. 'Nighty Night :)
 
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Goggles Paisano

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If Nagao remains out for a while, we might get to the point where our deepest weight on the team has the lowest ranking. Crazy great times.
 

zzs006

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Really? I thought Kosak did a good job there. Watters didn’t deserve the 1 and Cannons had a great year thus far. Duke at 3 is better than the 11 they had him at
I know Cannon is undefeated (against D1 competition) with all bonus point wins but I just can’t ignore Melvin Miller putting it on him. And then watching Melvin lose to Jayden. Thinking that PJ isn’t the best guy at this weight takes mental gymnastics.
 

BWFight

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As the kind of fan who is always worried that a Penn State wrestler might get themselves in a bad position and get pinned against a lesser-ranked opponent (e.g. Taylor/Bubba, Dylan Alton/Dylan Ness, Truax/Rogotzke, Lilledahl/McCrone, Davis/Bouzakis) I get a lot of peace watching Marcus wrestle. Even as a true freshman he is so solid in his positioning and mat awareness/intelligence. As I have mentioned before, his defense alone will keep him in most matches, and his offense has been top notch recently while still not putting himself in dangerous positions.
Yes, Marcus is one of the best with his positioning. I think he must train extensively with Nagao. 🤣
 
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Aardvark86

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At the end of the day, the purpose of the intro season rankings is to allow one to evaluate whether upcoming opponent wrestlers (a) have no pulse, (b) have a pulse, (c) are credible, or (d) might present an interesting matchup. In other words, they are qualitative rather than quantitative in value.
 
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I like what Flo did at 157, everyone getting huge boosts from beating Cardenas was starting to get ridiculous. However, based on Flo's ranking logic Melvin Miller would be the #1 guy at 157, which I can't exactly argue with based on results but I don't think is necessarily correct.
 
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