We do not now, or probably ever have the personel to run a pro style drop back offense. Russell was sacked numerous times by a three man rush. Also we do not at this time have a defense that can get pressure on a QB consistently with four down lineman. In saying this, I hope Mullen is not so stubborn, that he does not immediately state that there is an open competition for QB nest season. I am starting to think there was a reason Russell never beat out Relf fo a starting spot.
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Michigan?? Really. Michigan won because they are 12th in the country in D. Hike is slowly moving the team to his offensive philosophy and he is recruiting players for such. What you are asking is to install a whole new offense for a QB for one year. You know how coaches say all that extra bowl practice is invaluable, that is to reinforce something they practice all year. Now imagine learning all new sets starting Spring. If you like missed assignments and blown routes then this is a good idea.
Hmm
1. We can as evidence by Michigan. Are we getting their Oc?
2. No. The qb has to throw the ball.
1. We can as evidence by Michigan. Are we getting their Oc?
2. No. The qb has to throw the ball.
We have known TR was going to be our QB this year since Mullen got to campus. If he wasn't prepared to put him in the best possible spot for success then it is on him.
So what do you do, create a whole new offense with Tyler running it while Dak runs his offense. Have the OL, WR, and RB learn two completely different blocking schemes, running plays, and routes. I'm sure the offense you ran in high school would rival War and Peace in sheer size but in the normal football world their is a finite number of plays your average Guard can remember.
Thats what all of spring and fall are for genius. These are D1 SEC football players not white boys from Calhoun City. They had to learn an entire new offense when Dan first got here. Its obvious with our trio of RB's (pre Griffin injury) we would best be suited at running the LSU style and making Malcolm a bigger part of the O.
You're right. A passing QB will never do anything in Mullen's O.
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It's not even about Russell rather we don't have the personnel for this style. No deep threat whatsoever to keep the secondary honest. Slow developing pass plays with WR who cannot get open. Look at our losses if you want to see what I'm talking about. Jesus Christ mcdawg22 how can you defend that ****.
From right after the Egg Bowl
From right after the Egg Bowl
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Can you seriously sit there and say the offensive philosophy was the problem today. A four yard out was pick 6. A crossing pattern in triple coverage was forced on, what, second down? A 15 yard out that was telegraphed and thrown to the inside shoulder. A ball was tossed up for grabs for no apparent reason. These are problems caused by Tyler Russell not offensive schemes. The ultimate goal is to win football games. Our offense was not the reason we lost A&M, LSU, or Ole Miss. Against Bama we moved the ball well but we choked in the red zone. If you watch the bowl game again, a punishment I wouldn't even wish on you, chart Russell's passes. Over half were terrible passes. Hell even the Clark TD pass was overthrown. I understand where you are coming from but you don't abandon an offensive philosophy for one guy and that's all it is, one guy. If we still had a TE for a QB nobody would be questioning Mullen's philosophy.
Our pass blocking is actually pretty dang good. TR holds the ball longer than any QB in football
What exactly is your point? First you have some dumbass quote about passing qb's and link me to Chris Leak.. Okay first off Leak was more talented and had better escapibility than TR. Also he benefitted from Percy Harvin, Dallas Baker, Andre Caldwell, Corneilus Ingram, and Tebow as his change of pace. We have none of that talent.
But then as you huff and puff about passing qb's, you explain how Russell was the sole reason we lost this game. Which is it? Russell was a huge part but so was our philosophy, which was nonexitant. Our playcalling was darts on a board.
Its easy. Mullen prefers the dual threat. With elite talent around a damn good pocket guy (we'll call Leak that) he could make it work. With our talent and a statue at QB it was never a good fit. Hence the reason needed for under center, more pro style philosophy to fit our personnel. He could be a lot more comfortable with Prescott running his style and calling plays, but that was never going to work with TR and our ****** WRs.
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Simple, Dan Mullen has proven that he can successfully coach a passing QB, Tyler Russell has not proven that he can win the big game when his D gives him the opportunity. So you want to take the proven coach out of his game plan to pacify a QB with subpar performances against solid competition, and somehow Offensive practice has to split time with the old offense and the new offense because every other QB on the roster and the current QB's we are recruiting are built for the old offense. Surely even you see how ludicrous this is.
I agree. But I also agree with fathead about our personnel under Mullen's offense. Mullen's current philosophy will not succeed
unless we have lots of speed and elite talent on offense. We simply haven't recruited well enough here. But right now there are bigger fish to fry and that doesn't concern players.