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The scientists at the CDC and WHO are the ones saying this flu is potentially much worse. The media is merely reporting it as they should. It's a life or death situation for some folks.
China locked down Wuhan. Italy, France and Spain are now on lockdown. Italy's Med care system is maxed out. If you don't think any of that is newsworthy....don't know what else to say.
It's not a left wing conspiracy to bring down Trump.
Sticking your head in the sand, fingers in your ear and believing Trump when he calls it a hoax, won't make this go away.
This is science.

At no time has Trump called the China coronavirus a hoax. Would he declare a National Emergency for a hoax. Quit your hating and people might take you serious. Taking a dig at Trump makes your post irrelevant and that is sad because you said some good things. But if you do not think a segment of our society and media don't want this to be the thing that beats Trump you are in La La Land.
 
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At no time has Trump called the China coronavirus a hoax. Would he declare a National Emergency for a hoax. Quit your hating and people might take you serious. Taking a dig at Trump makes your post irrelevant and that is sad because you said some good things. But if you do not think a segment of our society and media don't want this to be the thing that beats Trump you are in La La Land.

Just two weeks ago despite what scientists were telling him.....Not hating, just prefer truth and science to lies and ignorance.
 

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At no time has Trump called the China coronavirus a hoax. Would he declare a National Emergency for a hoax. Quit your hating and people might take you serious. Taking a dig at Trump makes your post irrelevant and that is sad because you said some good things. But if you do not think a segment of our society and media don't want this to be the thing that beats Trump you are in La La Land.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...tration-downplayed-the-coronavirus-2020-3?amp
 

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The scientists at the CDC and WHO are the ones saying this flu is potentially much worse. The media is merely reporting it as they should. It's a life or death situation for some folks.
China locked down Wuhan. Italy, France and Spain are now on lockdown. Italy's Med care system is maxed out. If you don't think any of that is newsworthy....don't know what else to say.
It's not a left wing conspiracy to bring down Trump.
Sticking your head in the sand, fingers in your ear and believing Trump when he calls it a hoax, won't make this go away.
This is science.
Obtuse response by a liberal suffering from Trump derangement syndrome. No one called it a hoax including Trump. He never said the virus wasn’t real. He said the media stirring panic wasn’t helping. He acted in January by cutting off the travel to China when you liberals said it was racist to do it. He has taken many steps including calling it a national emergency. Spain and Italy are in lock down because they have ****** medical systems and have open borders- the type of socialist system that Sanders wants to bring to the United States.
I clearly said this must be taken seriously something your lord and savior Barak didn’t have the intelligence to do with the swine flu. He waited until millions were infected and over a 1,000 died. And the left wing media slurped his ignorant *** the entire time.
 

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At no time has Trump called the China coronavirus a hoax. Would he declare a National Emergency for a hoax. Quit your hating and people might take you serious. Taking a dig at Trump makes your post irrelevant and that is sad because you said some good things. But if you do not think a segment of our society and media don't want this to be the thing that beats Trump you are in La La Land.

correct on Trump and Coronavirus Hoax. It was more directed towards Democrats.

However, his actions has been slow and preparedness of USA is surprisingly behind other countries.
 
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Obtuse response by a liberal suffering from Trump derangement syndrome. No one called it a hoax including Trump. He never said the virus wasn’t real. He said the media stirring panic wasn’t helping. He acted in January by cutting off the travel to China when you liberals said it was racist to do it. He has taken many steps including calling it a national emergency. Spain and Italy are in lock down because they have ****** medical systems and have open borders- the type of socialist system that Sanders wants to bring to the United States.
I clearly said this must be taken seriously something your lord and savior Barak didn’t have the intelligence to do with the swine flu. He waited until millions were infected and over a 1,000 died. And the left wing media slurped his ignorant *** the entire time.

Pull the oversized MAGA hat off your head so its not covering your eyes and ears....then listen to Trump call Coronavirus a Democrat hoax for yourself.....
 

irishcat1965

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Pull the oversized MAGA hat off your head so its not covering your eyes and ears....then listen to Trump call Coronavirus a Democrat hoax for yourself.....

Your derangement is showing. He never said the virus is a hoax. He clearly said the Democrats politicizing it to get an advantage in November is the new hoax. Meaning they Are saying the virus is his fault it’s in the US. I can’t believe I have to explain this to you. Actually I can. You are a liberal.
 
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Your derangement is showing. He never said the virus is a hoax. He clearly said the Democrats politicizing it to get an advantage in November is the new hoax. Meaning they Are saying the virus is his fault it’s in the US. I can’t believe I have to explain this to you. Actually I can. You are a liberal.
Mixing the word hoax into a speech about a deadly virus while he whines about criticism from Dems is irresponsible at best and dangerous at worst. Do you really believe your nuanced translation of his hoax analogy is the message received by the majority of people in that crowd??? C'mon man....look no further than this message board to see what the takeaway was. Most heard, "The virus is a hoax created by the Dems to make me look bad". Most heard, "Don't worry about this virus because it's not real anyway". Playing games with words is not as dangerous for you IrishCat because you are able to carefully discern messages like that....but you are also smart enough to understand that is not true for many of his followers that take his word for gospel. Let's be real about this parsing of words and message intent.
 

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Yes, I agree but sometimes you find in the comments where some one has some info from other countries that shows that young people are not immune to this virus. Hopefully its not to scare people but to inform.
 
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WildMoon

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Yes, I agree but sometimes you find in the comments where some one has some info from other countries that shows that young people are not immune to this virus. Hopefully its not to scare people but to inform.

no one is saying young is immune to it. Not sure where this misguided information is spread.

Young people just don't die from it. LOL. You still get sick.

This thing is like old people killer,
 

kybassfan

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I think Morg has Corona in his brain. Along with some squeezed lime.

No virus though.
 

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Just two weeks ago despite what scientists were telling him.....Not hating, just prefer truth and science to lies and ignorance.

Sambowieshin-Nowhere in that video does he say the Coronavirus is a hoax. If you hear it in the video please tell us the exact minute and second he says the words “the Coronavirus is a hoax”. If you can’t do that it is obvious you hate trump and will twist facts and spread lies to do whatever it takes to bring him down. Unfortunately many like to do this rather than stick to hard facts.
 

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Most have heard the stories from Italy. Mostly bad from what I've read.
Talked this morning to a friend of mine who is a doctor here in the states. Speaks fluent English and Italian. Has an elderly mother in Italy and a sister who lives either close to her mom or with her (don't know which). So he went over recently to see about his mom. While there his mother starts feeling bad with all the syptoms of COVID-19. He called the Italian version of 911. They asked the age of the patient and when informed of her age...would not send an ambulance. Said she was too old.
So he and his sister drove her to the hospital. They did admit her...with some reluctance. When the doctors came in and were talking amongst themselves of her condition (in Italian..thinking he was from the US and only spoke English)...guess they were talking about that she was too old to treat. Don't know her age, I forgot to ask, but I'm guessing 80+. Thinking he didn't understand them. Guess he then started talking to them in Italian and that he was a doctor in the US. Suddenly their tune changed and starting to treat his mom.
Said while he was there, there was a guy in the cubicle next to his mom (guess the 'old' hospital type ward thing with curtains between beds) who had cut a finger off in an accident. Again, an old guy. They sent him home with no treatment. Kind of hard to believe.
I know nothing about the Italian healthcare system. Overwhelmed as some on here have said? Maybe.
Gov't healthcare? Don't know. He was in a hurry so there are some questions that I have so maybe I'll have a chance to talk to him again. But it made me wonder, especially when it comes to death count, if this may be a reason why it's high. Have NO idea.
 

HagginHall1999

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correct on Trump and Coronavirus Hoax. It was more directed towards Democrats.

However, his actions has been slow and preparedness of USA is surprisingly behind other countries.

Which started with NAFTA...

Once we make it through this we all need to understand that important stuff like medicine needs to be made in the USA.

A coutry of our size and wealth should be dependent on no other country to survive.
 

WildMoon

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Which started with NAFTA...

Once we make it through this we all need to understand that important stuff like medicine needs to be made in the USA.

NAFTA, That's just an excuse. To be honest. Competent business won't have any issue producing in USA.
 

WildMoon

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Ok, yeah it is an excuse...80% of acute meds being made in China is an excuse.

The government has let us down. That is no excuse it is a fact Jack.

If you are that defiant in your party support I don't know what to say.

i don't really care about some bad business practice. yawnnn
 

HagginHall1999

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i don't really care about some bad business practice. yawnnn

That is the problem. You care about political squabble.

Look it is an issue, period. I work for a global corporation, one of the largest companies in the world. We produce hardly nothing in China or the US...however some of our largest American corporations rely on China to mass produce everything.

If you don't think it as issue that critical items such as acute meds, saline bags, masks, etc are not made in the US, then what is your gripe? Yawn...

Let me add...I don't give a rats *** what party anyone votes for. We need people to get stuff done.
 
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WildMoon

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That is the problem. You care about political squabble.

Look it is an issue, period. I work for a global corporation, one of the largest companies in the world. We produce hardly nothing in China or the US...however our largest American corporations rely on China to mass produce everything.

If you don't think it as issue that critical items such as acute meds, saline bags, masks, etc are not made in the US, then what is your gripe? Yawn...

Let me add...I don't give a rats *** what party anyone votes for. We need people to get stuff done.

i mean I consult globally, and i know the stupidity of believing that it's better to produce in china.

has nothing to do with NAFTA (BTW, that's north america free trade, nothing to do with china...)
 

HagginHall1999

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i mean I consult globally, and i know the stupidity of believing that it's better to produce in china.

has nothing to do with NAFTA (BTW, that's north america free trade, nothing to do with china...)

I said it started with NAFTA. That is when all started going down hill.
 

HagginHall1999

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why don't you blame poor management of these businesses?

I am not saying blame is soley on govt or business. However, businesses are going to buy what is cheaper at their level of quality. It is all about money obviously. Have it made cheaper, mark it up more and in turn increase profitability.

The government has a responsibility to look out for the people and inact change to ensure that isn't happening in our country. Businesses have no responsibility for their people unless you are in a contract. The vast majority outside the Top 10% are not in contract. A businesses consumer, they care less about in general...as long as they are buying their product they are happy.

We are screwed over and duped in our own country on a regular basis. This isn't a political party debate. The system is broken. We are a service country and are now experiencing problems a service country would expect to experience when all services shut down.
 
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Once again, how much panic was there when the swine flu infected 60 million? None. Why? The media wasn’t going to rock the boat of the biggest moron who has ever been in the White House. He was a total assclown who waiting 5 months to do anything while it spread like wildfire because he was totally incompetent. Yet, the United States still fully recovered and never cancelled anything.
Calling Obama a moron when Trump cant play a game of chess because he keeps yelling KING ME shows your clear bias. You can have your opinion but clearly your opinion loses all credibility when you compare Obama and Trump in intelligence. Whew.
 

WildMoon

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I am not saying blame is soley on govt or business. However, businesses are going to buy what is cheaper at their level of quality. It is all about money obviously. Have it made cheaper, mark it up more and in turn increase profitability.

The government has a responsibility to look out for the people and inact change to ensure that isn't happening in our country. Businesses have no responsibility for their people unless you are in a contract. The vast majority outside the Top 10% are not in contract. A businesses consumer, they care less about in general...as long as they are buying their product they are happy.

We are screwed over and duped in our own country on a regular basis. This isn't a political party debate. The system is broken. We are a service country and are now experiencing problems a service country would expect to experience when all services shut down.

I don't really care much. but from what you said, it won't fix the problem. At the end of the day management run the business. Reliant on government fixing the problem is where most people/business will stay struggling.
 

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I already did that. Woke up with a sniffle yesterday and freaked out. Turns out you can have a runny nose this time of year...
[laughing]......

I was at the store, getting gas. About 7/8 people in line. Dude sneezes. It was like the matrix after that. Store got quiet---Everyone just stopped---Looked at this dude, as if he had just unleashed a fury of the virus,.....


I simply apologized.....And left.o_O
 

HagginHall1999

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[laughing]......

I was at the store, getting gas. About 7/8 people in line. Dude sneezes. It was like the matrix after that. Store got quiet---Everyone just stopped---Looked at this dude, as if he had just unleashed a fury of the virus,.....


I simply apologized.....And left.o_O

I read sneezing and runny nose is not a symptom.

Primarily headache, trouble breathing or shortness of breath...but trust me I know what ya mean!
 
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HagginHall1999

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I don't really care much. but from what you said, it won't fix the problem. At the end of the day management run the business. Reliant on government fixing the problem is where most people/business will stay struggling.

Management of a private business cannot fix a problem that belongs to our country. If company A is manufacturing a like product in China and company B is manufacturing a like product in the USA, company A is going to have lower COGS.

Company A will then mark up and pull a greater profit which will in turn push company B out of the market or potentially out of business all while undercutting company B.

Government can fix the problem through regulation and guess what, that is better for our country than status quo.

It is simply irresponsible for nearly everything we buy to be coming from China. It is completely irresponsible to have all of our acute meds coming from there as well. Ridiculous...
 
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He wasn’t calling it a hoax

Sambowieshin-Nowhere in that video does he say the Coronavirus is a hoax. If you hear it in the video please tell us the exact minute and second he says the words “the Coronavirus is a hoax”. If you can’t do that it is obvious you hate trump and will twist facts and spread lies to do whatever it takes to bring him down. Unfortunately many like to do this rather than stick to hard facts.
At the 27 second mark he says, "This is their new Hoax" referring to the Dems criticism of his Coronavirus handling. He later tells the crowd there are only 15 cases, no deaths and it will probably be getting better soon. The overt message sent to that crowd (despite the warnings being given by scientists and the national media at the same time) was that the danger of this virus and criticism of him downplaying this virus are all just a hoax. The fact you can't comprehend his message intent is why I'm so glad the scientists, public servants, private sector business leaders, governors and mayors all across America completely ignored him and acted until it reached the point he had no other choice but to wake the F up to what was happening in this country and declare a national emergency. He and his cult were in complete denial up until a couple of days ago. Some still are.