Fraud, here’s another example. Just how big is this problem?

[OG Goat Holder]

rebuttal:

Adolf Eichmann: Claimed he was a "little cog" carrying out orders, not making policy.
Rudolf Höss: Stated he was trained to obey without thinking.
Wilhelm Keitel & Alfred Jodl: Argued that while they knew Hitler's orders were unlawful, they were obliged to follow them.
Otto Ohlendorf: Claimed his role in mass murder was just following orders.
Erich Priebke: Argued it was impossible to disobey orders during a massacre.

I'm not talking about a Nazi dictatorship at war, bruh. I'm talking about the modern day United States.

And I'm sure there are places were loyalists can 'make a dent' in their agenda. But not in the freakin' government bureaucracy, most of it is apolitical anyway. You're talking about military folks mainly here, which, weirdly, is where MOST of all the waste actually is. Nobody wants to hear that, though.

 

[paindonthurt]

rebuttal:

Adolf Eichmann: Claimed he was a "little cog" carrying out orders, not making policy.
Rudolf Höss: Stated he was trained to obey without thinking.
Wilhelm Keitel & Alfred Jodl: Argued that while they knew Hitler's orders were unlawful, they were obliged to follow them.
Otto Ohlendorf: Claimed his role in mass murder was just following orders.
Erich Priebke: Argued it was impossible to disobey orders during a massacre.

Make no mistake. There are crooks in congress and in federal government non elected offices and in in state government non elected offices. And its really not hard to pull off fraud but its pretty simple to reduce significantly.

Here's an easy way to pull off fraud. Example: I work for the state and i'm creating bid documents for a project. I start reaching out to my boy who is a GC. I give him all the info as i get it. It takes me 4 to 5 months to get a full set of plans and specs and get the bid ready. I post the bid. Now the rest of the suckers have 2 weeks to get all the info and make a bid. My buddy gets the bid and makes 35% on the project and gives me a kickback b/c i gave him all the info early.

Lets take the bidding process for all state and federal bids. Every single one of them.
We could probably get 10 of us in a room and add a few steps to this to make it an easy an thorough process.

Step 1 build good user friendly website (1 for Mississippi and every other state; 1 for federal)
Step 2 every bid should be posted 4 weeks before bid turn in deadline (4 weeks is enough time for most anyone to bid even if the douche bag doing the bid process lets his favorite companies know 8 weeks ahead of time)
Step 3 anyone with above a 100 iq (eliminates @OG Goat Holder) should be able to access this website and filter by a combo of: type of bid, due date of bid, release date of bid, etc,
Step 4 within 72 hrs of a bid being awarded the winner along with the broken down quoted amount should be posted to same website (filtered by a combo of date, amount, type, etc.)

If you do something like the above, the people who aren't bidding on jobs can now see how the jobs are being done, the bid process, the amounts (they make look at the documents and be like damn i could have done that for 20% less and still made a good margin).

TRANSPARENCY SOLVES A LOT OF ISSUES AND IS VERY EASY TO DO.

Note: before you idiots come at me and say its all public record, that doesn't mean its easy to access or find. Thats not transparency.

 

[paindonthurt]

We don't care when our politicians do unscrupulous things. That's been proven over and over again. Co-pilot (disclaimer) reminds us that grifters are everywhere.

Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R‑OK) — Senate HELP (Health, Education, Labor & Pensions) & Armed Services
• Trade: Bought Stride, Inc. (LRN), a for‑profit education company.
• Outcome: The position was flagged after a ~35% gain; coverage explicitly tied the position to Mullin’s role on the Education side of HELP.


Sen. Tina Smith (D‑MN) — Senate HELP (Health)
• Trade: Bought Tactile Systems (TCMD), a medical device firm.
• Outcome: Independent trackers show her 11/2023 buy up ~75% by late‑2024/early‑2025 and the 11/2024 add up ~13% within weeks; another write‑up noted a 40%+ surge shortly after purchase—squarely in her committee’s health domain.


Rep. Julie Johnson (D‑TX) — House Homeland Security (Border Security; Emergency Management & Technology)
• Trade: Bought and later sold Palantir (PLTR), a government contractor used by DHS/ICE.
• Outcome: Her 2025 sales disclosed profits in the $1,001–$15,000 range per sale. Coverage also underlined that she sits on Homeland Security subcommittees that oversee the same department Palantir serves.


Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R‑GA) — House Homeland Security; Oversight & Accountability
• Trade: Reported buys in Palantir (PLTR) and Impinj (PI) (RFID/IoT with defense & security applications).
• Outcome: A Capitol Trades roundup highlighted these as profitable tech trades that more than doubled, noting her oversight role touching DHS/Pentagon contractors.


Rep. Ro Khanna (D‑CA) — House Armed Services (Cyber, Innovative Technologies & Information Systems subcommittee); Oversight
• Trade: Repeated purchases of CrowdStrike (CRWD) and other cybersecurity/IT names.
• Outcome: A detailed review of his 2024 transactions showed double‑digit gains on CRWD within weeks; Khanna’s committee work centers on cyber and emerging tech—the sector these firms operate in. (Khanna’s household often files trades; House rules require members to disclose spouse/dependent trades as well.)

Another thing that could easily be solved.

You wanna trade in congress? Ok fine. Every trade should be posted within 72 hrs of it happening. This inlcudes anyone in your immediate family. Brother, Sister, husband, children.

They want to inside trade? Fine. Pass that info along to the public immediately so we can all jump in on the fun.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

If you do something like the above, the people who aren't bidding on jobs can now see how the jobs are being done, the bid process, the amounts (they make look at the documents and be like damn i could have done that for 20% less and still made a good margin).

LOL. Just like that, huh?

 

[ckDOG]

You are an absolute moron if you think there is a reason for a lot of the stuff we spend.

We could cut our budget by 5% easily. I know this b/c we are spending 40% more per person after adjusting for inflation since mid 1990. What in the actual 17 has happened since 1999 or early 2000s that would cause us to spend 40% more per person? NOTHING!!!

It would be easy if the electorate held their reps and senators accountable. We listen to their "but the deficit!" crap every election season and only a handful attempt to vote like they care to reduce it. Yet...we do nothing but reelect the same folks (or types of folks) over and over because we are scared we might lose the pork we claim we want to trim in the first place.

Instead of holding incumbents accountable, we just blame it on someone else's elected rep and do the same thing over and over expecting different results. Garbage in, garbage out.

 

[paindonthurt]

You eliminate Fraud, you could eliminate income taxes.

I would agree and support a 1% tax raise for 32% bracket, 2% for 35% bracket, 3% for 37% bracket and roughly a 2 to 5% corporate increase, IF THE FOLLOWING HAPPENS. We can tweak the percentages for tax and cuts some if someone has good numbers to justify.

1. 3% Decrease in budget each year until revenue is more than expenses
2. 2% decrease in budget each year until we can pay off a reasonable amount of debt each year.
3. Once 1 and 2 happen the tax brackets go back to what they are today.
4. Going forward, legislation stating a super majority would be required to ever have an unbalanced budget or to increase taxes. Either an unbalanced budget or an increase in taxes could only be for a maximum of 2 years and then requires a revote. This allows for ACTUAL EMERGENCIES.

 

[mstateglfr]

How could one county have more hospice facilities than 36 states combined unless that ratio goes along with population?

If it does go along with population ratio, then 3% and 18% are way 17ing off.

That county could have more hospice facilities per capita because facilities chose to set up there. You don’t need to go die at a facility in the county in which you live.

I acknowledged the difference is significant. I said that if all locations are legitimate, then that would explain some of the difference. That means I have no idea if they’re all legitimate and that also means that wouldn’t explain all of the difference.

My post was not defending anything. I typed out two observations related to the comment I quoted, that I found interesting.

 

[paindonthurt]

It would be easy if the electorate held their reps and senators accountable. We listen to their "but the deficit!" crap every election season and only a handful attempt to vote like they care to reduce it. Yet...we do nothing but reelect the same folks (or types of folks) over and over because we are scared we might lose the pork we claim we want to trim in the first place.

Instead of holding incumbents accountable, we just blame it on someone else's elected rep and do the same thing over and over expecting different results. Garbage in, garbage out.

i agree but if my choices are voting for a big spending trump or a big spending Biden or Kamala or even Obama, i'll take trump every 17ing time.

Why can't we have a bill clinton? I consider him and Trump to be similar other than some spending stuff.
Neither said much about abortion. Didn't take a strong stance on LGBTQ.
Both care about the economy (went about it a little different).
Both cared about illegal immigration (obama, clinton and trump did a lot of the same GD things but one is a racist for it).

 

[paindonthurt]

LOL. Just like that, huh?

I can assure you there are lots of contracts out there that can be done for way more savings than 20%. I've seen them.

 

[DoggieDaddy13]

Agree. But remember, Donald J started all that nonsense.

Don't be blaming the Donald.

It was Fauci and the Chinese and the Ukrainians.

And the Democrats!!!

 

[paindonthurt]

That county could have more hospice facilities per capita because facilities chose to set up there. You don’t need to go die at a facility in the county in which you live.

I acknowledged the difference is significant. I said that if all locations are legitimate, then that would explain some of the difference. That means I have no idea if they’re all legitimate and that also means that wouldn’t explain all of the difference.

My post was not defending anything. I typed out two observations related to the comment I quoted, that I found interesting.

Yes i can read.

 

[ckDOG]

I would agree and support a 1% tax raise for 32% bracket, 2% for 35% bracket, 3% for 37% bracket and roughly a 2 to 5% corporate increase, IF THE FOLLOWING HAPPENS. We can tweak the percentages for tax and cuts some if someone has good numbers to justify.

1. 3% Decrease in budget each year until revenue is more than expenses
2. 2% decrease in budget each year until we can pay off a reasonable amount of debt each year.
3. Once 1 and 2 happen the tax brackets go back to what they are today.
4. Going forward, legislation stating a super majority would be required to ever have an unbalanced budget or to increase taxes. Either an unbalanced budget or an increase in taxes could only be for a maximum of 2 years and then requires a revote. This allows for ACTUAL EMERGENCIES.

I'd vote for you.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Don't be blaming the Donald.

It was Fauci and the Chinese and the Ukrainians.

And the Democrats!!!

The Fauci hate will continue to puzzle me forever. He didn't even do anything controversial, just common sense shlt. He was not a political appointee.

The only thing you MAY say about him, was the same that you could say about many in the medical field back then.......they saw their time in the sun and enjoyed being the most listened to people in there. But that's just more annoying than anything else. Just like when the MS state medical doc, can't remember his name, would say things like, "Well I've been working this whole time, I HAVE to come to work." in all those Zoom appearances. I'm like m17er how tone deaf are you, saying that to a bunch of people who can't go into work or flat out lost their jobs to begin with. But the guy wasn't defrauding people.

 

[paindonthurt]

I'd vote for you.

Well i appreciate it but i'm willing to bet there are a lot more republicans in congress today who would vote for this than democrats. NOT ALL OF THEM I KNOW.

But it won't ever pass b/c you have 80% ish plus of Dems who wouldn't b/c they believe spending is gonna help us and b/c they are dumb or b/c they are on the take and 50% ish of republicans wouldn't b/c they are dumb and/or on the take.

 

[paindonthurt]

The Fauci hate will continue to puzzle me forever. He didn't even do anything controversial, just common sense shlt. He was not a political appointee.

The only thing you MAY say about him, was the same that you could say about many in the medical field back then.......they saw their time in the sun and enjoyed being the most listened to people in there. But that's just more annoying than anything else. Just like when the MS state medical doc, can't remember his name, would say things like, "Well I've been working this whole time, I HAVE to come to work." in all those Zoom appearances. I'm like m17er how tone deaf are you, saying that to a bunch of people who can't go into work or flat out lost their jobs to begin with. But the guy wasn't defrauding people.

Except he changed his common sense stuff on the reg. Flipped back and forth like 13 year old 8th grade girl on which boy she liked.

 

[ckDOG]

The Fauci hate will continue to puzzle me forever. He didn't even do anything controversial, just common sense shlt. He was not a political appointee.

The only thing you MAY say about him, was the same that you could say about many in the medical field back then.......they saw their time in the sun and enjoyed being the most listened to people in there. But that's just more annoying than anything else. Just like when the MS state medical doc, can't remember his name, would say things like, "Well I've been working this whole time, I HAVE to come to work." in all those Zoom appearances. I'm like m17er how tone deaf are you, saying that to a bunch of people who can't go into work or flat out lost their jobs to begin with. But the guy wasn't defrauding people.

He was a poor and arrogant communicator on topics nobody understood and that rubbed people the wrong way.

 

[L4Dawg]

You eliminate Fraud, you could eliminate income taxes.

No, not even close.

 

[mstateglfr]

It can't change, because everyone who comes in and tries, finds out there's a reason for most of it. And the 'waste' in terms of government personnel was incredibly overstated. The government needs people to perform its functions. As far as aid to other countries? Who really knows, there.

Now, where there IS waste, is from PEOPLE defrauding the government. The Minnesota thing for example. Every now and again you'll find a bureaucrat on the take, but not often. There's just too many checks and too much oversight for someone to risk their job. The bureaucrats carry out Congress' law.

Comes back to ICE too. Even if you don't like the extreme lengths ICE is going to now, why you blaming them? Blame the administration and the political appointees who gave the orders and mandates. The dudes in uniform on the ground are just doing what they are told to do.

I am with you on the first two paragraphs.

Totally disagree with the last one. Couldn't disagree more.
Bureaucrats carrying out Congress' laws is an acceptable justification/excuse when there is no ethical or moral issue to consider.

I absolutely blame agents on the streets for what is happening because they have chosen to work for and participate In something that I view as unethical.
Those who are abusing, violating, and ignoring laws should not get a pass. They should not be excused from scrutiny because they are 'just following orders'.
It's a job- they could leave if they has a moral or ethical objection to what they are doing.
They stick around though.

If agents from ICE and CBP only executed warrants in a lawful manner, didn't lie to and intimidate lawful observers, didn't racially profile, respected 4th Amendment restrictions, and much more- then I would blame them much less, possibly not at all.

They are choosing to violate(or accepting it happening) laws and rights of those in the communities they are trawling through.

 

[Chesusdog]

I've long held the belief that if you do what it takes to get elected to a national office, you probably don't have the character to be someone I want representing me.

There are very few exceptions to that rule. I am jealous of the people represented by Thomas Massie though.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I am with you on the first two paragraphs.

Totally disagree with the last one. Couldn't disagree more.
Bureaucrats carrying out Congress' laws is an acceptable justification/excuse when there is no ethical or moral issue to consider.

I absolutely blame agents on the streets for what is happening because they have chosen to work for and participate In something that I view as unethical.
Those who are abusing, violating, and ignoring laws should not get a pass. They should not be excused from scrutiny because they are 'just following orders'.
It's a job- they could leave if they has a moral or ethical objection to what they are doing.
They stick around though.

If agents from ICE and CBP only executed warrants in a lawful manner, didn't lie to and intimidate lawful observers, didn't racially profile, respected 4th Amendment restrictions, and much more- then I would blame them much less, possibly not at all.

They are choosing to violate(or accepting it happening) laws and rights of those in the communities they are trawling through.

I view it in the same light I view cops......I'm being shown the worst on TV and social media.

 

[Drebin]

as to the "ho-hum" reaction, I'm livid, and I know that it is so much more widespread than we even think we know today (I do not think this stuff is a conspiracy at all)......but I think the ho-hum stuff we are seeing is that the proof will be in the pudding when we see big time public officials going to jail and major whistle-blowing exposure.

*I firmly believe as I sit here today that the greatest threat to our country is Congress......not every member, but definitely north of 70% of them (what we see today is nothing but theater)....*

I'm pissed about it too but when half of the country willfully votes to enable the behavior, and then screams bloody murder when someone actually starts to squash it and cut it, it definitely gets demoralizing. Which of course, is exactly what they want.

And this is not a right vs left thing, they both do it. But when the current administration tried to end chunks of it, out came the nazi allegations and Tesla torchings.

 

[ckDOG]

I've long held the belief that if you do what it takes to get elected to a national office, you probably don't have the character to be someone I want representing me.

I think we are long overdue for adding to the house count. Our 435 reps getting close to 800k constituents each. That's a lot of people often over a large geography. In 1790 it was around 35k. Is 35k practical? Probably not but we should skew much further to that end.

More reps makes the office more accessible to the constituency. More people would be able to afford to run and get their ideas out to the constituency. More reps would make it easier for additional parties to form and there be less groupthink amongst the 2 we have today. It would also make more people feel more closely connected to the political process and incentivize civic engagement. I try to get connected with mine (Kustoff) but all I get is put on his email newsletter. If I were 1 of 100k rather than 800k, I'd have a better chance at getting his ear.

Downside would be cost but you could argue the existing budget is largely variable and can be split among more reps. Also, you'd end up electing some real mouth breathers, but [gestures to Washington].

 

[mstateglfr]

I view it in the same light I view cops......I'm being shown the worst on TV and social media.

Well that is a lot of 'the worst' then.

Stephen Miller and JD Vance have both recently claimed ICE agents have absolute immunity and federal immunity. Absolute immunity.
The guy who is vice president of the country said ICE agents have 'absolute immunity'.
The guy who is deputy chief of staff for policy and homeland security advisor said ICE agents have 'federal immunity'.

When that is the narrative being pushed from above, and ICE agents are allowed to stop anyone and demand papers, misuse warrants, break windows, escalate tensions, casually threaten observers that they will receive the same harm others have received...then yeah those agents are part of the problem and should be blamed.

 

[dorndawg]

I think we are long overdue for adding to the house count. Our 435 reps getting close to 800k constituents each. That's a lot of people often over a large geography. In 1790 it was around 35k. Is 35k practical? Probably not but we should skew much further to that end.

More reps makes the office more accessible to the constituency. More people would be able to afford to run and get their ideas out to the constituency. More reps would make it easier for additional parties to form and there be less groupthink amongst the 2 we have today. It would also make more people feel more closely connected to the political process and incentivize civic engagement. I try to get connected with mine (Kustoff) but all I get is put on his email newsletter. If I were 1 of 100k rather than 800k, I'd have a better chance at getting his ear.

Downside would be cost but you could argue the existing budget is largely variable and can be split among more reps. Also, you'd end up electing some real mouth breathers, but [gestures to Washington].

Be still, my heart. I've been saying this for years. We all agree congress does a shiitty (and shiittier, increasingly job) and simultaneously we ask far too much from congressmen.

 

[o_Hot Rock]

Everything about our healthcare system is corrupt.

Countries with a fraction of the US economy do a better job of healthcare for it's people with far less resources. Why? We gotta have our billionaires and they do not give two ***** about our healthcare. They only care how much money they can make from it. So, they like the corrupt system because they exploit it too.

The worst of this is when someone does get really sick for any extended time. They can't work. If they can't work, they can't earn. Can't earn, they can't buy insurance. Then what? We just let them die when often it would have been cheaper for us to collectively get them well and send them back to work earning.

You can almost cut our cost by a 1/3 or more just by eliminating insurance companies. Insurance keeps half what we give but it does cost 4-10% of that money for the billing administration. We have to pay that no matter what but we don't have to pay for Superbowl adds and multi million dollar salaries or even the 6 figure insurance agents who drain our pockets. You like the guy or gal, he is your neighbor and very personable but completely unnecessary expenditure. They don't give you care so why are we paying them half (48%) of we spend on healthcare?

This is possible, every other modern country in the world has done this for it's people. Yes, there are problems in their systems but they have it far better than the corrupt system we have that is rampant with fraud from over billing Hospitals, to big pharma policies to all forms of insurance fraud.

Bottom line is Americans don't mind corruption so long as it's them benefiting from it.

 

[o_Hot Rock]

Well that is a lot of 'the worst' then.

Stephen Miller and JD Vance have both recently claimed ICE agents have absolute immunity and federal immunity. Absolute immunity.
The guy who is vice president of the country said ICE agents have 'absolute immunity'.
The guy who is deputy chief of staff for policy and homeland security advisor said ICE agents have 'federal immunity'.

When that is the narrative being pushed from above, and ICE agents are allowed to stop anyone and demand papers, misuse warrants, break windows, escalate tensions, casually threaten observers that they will receive the same harm others have received...then yeah those agents are part of the problem and should be blamed.

ICE is given a quota. They have to arrest so many a day. It matters little if it's a real criminal or some guy with his kid dropping him off at school. They even arrested the kid. Guy was completely here legally on a work permit through 2028 and they put him and his kid in prison. How does anyone still support that is beyond me but this county is full of hate and it's dying.

 

[mcdawg22]

I will say this. Whenever fraud is brought up it’s always the crooked government that is pointed out. You never see the every day fraud in the private sector. Fraud is the third largest economy in the world behind the United States and China. And yes, when we see government fraud it’s easy to point out it’s our tax dollars, but you are also paying taxes at your banks for fraud, at stores for fraud, investments (Worldcom/Enron) for fraud. It’s a human problem not just a government problem.

 

[patdog]

I will say this. Whenever fraud is brought up it’s always the crooked government that is pointed out. You never see the every day fraud in the private sector. Fraud is the third largest economy in the world behind the United States and China. And yes, when we see government fraud it’s easy to point out it’s our tax dollars, but you are also paying taxes at your banks for fraud, at stores for fraud, investments (Worldcom/Enron) for fraud. It’s a human problem not just a government problem.

Of course there's fraud everywhere. But it's a LOT easier in the government sector and you can steal a LOT more money there.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We don't care when our politicians do unscrupulous things. That's been proven over and over again. Co-pilot (disclaimer) reminds us that grifters are everywhere.

Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R‑OK) — Senate HELP (Health, Education, Labor & Pensions) & Armed Services
• Trade: Bought Stride, Inc. (LRN), a for‑profit education company.
• Outcome: The position was flagged after a ~35% gain; coverage explicitly tied the position to Mullin’s role on the Education side of HELP.


Sen. Tina Smith (D‑MN) — Senate HELP (Health)
• Trade: Bought Tactile Systems (TCMD), a medical device firm.
• Outcome: Independent trackers show her 11/2023 buy up ~75% by late‑2024/early‑2025 and the 11/2024 add up ~13% within weeks; another write‑up noted a 40%+ surge shortly after purchase—squarely in her committee’s health domain.


Rep. Julie Johnson (D‑TX) — House Homeland Security (Border Security; Emergency Management & Technology)
• Trade: Bought and later sold Palantir (PLTR), a government contractor used by DHS/ICE.
• Outcome: Her 2025 sales disclosed profits in the $1,001–$15,000 range per sale. Coverage also underlined that she sits on Homeland Security subcommittees that oversee the same department Palantir serves.


Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R‑GA) — House Homeland Security; Oversight & Accountability
• Trade: Reported buys in Palantir (PLTR) and Impinj (PI) (RFID/IoT with defense & security applications).
• Outcome: A Capitol Trades roundup highlighted these as profitable tech trades that more than doubled, noting her oversight role touching DHS/Pentagon contractors.


Rep. Ro Khanna (D‑CA) — House Armed Services (Cyber, Innovative Technologies & Information Systems subcommittee); Oversight
• Trade: Repeated purchases of CrowdStrike (CRWD) and other cybersecurity/IT names.
• Outcome: A detailed review of his 2024 transactions showed double‑digit gains on CRWD within weeks; Khanna’s committee work centers on cyber and emerging tech—the sector these firms operate in. (Khanna’s household often files trades; House rules require members to disclose spouse/dependent trades as well.)

 

[paindonthurt]

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I think we are long overdue for adding to the house count. Our 435 reps getting close to 800k constituents each. That's a lot of people often over a large geography. In 1790 it was around 35k. Is 35k practical? Probably not but we should skew much further to that end.

More reps makes the office more accessible to the constituency. More people would be able to afford to run and get their ideas out to the constituency. More reps would make it easier for additional parties to form and there be less groupthink amongst the 2 we have today. It would also make more people feel more closely connected to the political process and incentivize civic engagement. I try to get connected with mine (Kustoff) but all I get is put on his email newsletter. If I were 1 of 100k rather than 800k, I'd have a better chance at getting his ear.

Downside would be cost but you could argue the existing budget is largely variable and can be split among more reps. Also, you'd end up electing some real mouth breathers, but [gestures to Washington].

And I might win one and get rich off of insider trading!***

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Interesting site: https://www.quiverquant.com/

 

[ckDOG]

And I might win one and get rich off of insider trading!***

That's old school now. The big money is the presidency. Sue a department that reports to you then force them to settle. Brilliant!

 

[horshack.sixpack]

View attachment 1177618

Here are your top 4 (not exactly apples to apples for them as it is "for the period that hillsignals has been tracking them):

• Nancy Pelosi: +127% performance.
• Dan Crenshaw: +89% performance.
• Tommy Tuberville: +156% performance.
• Josh Gottheimer: +98% performance.

Perhaps most stunning is Trump's net worth jumped to $7.3 billion, up from $3.9 billion in 2024

 

[paindonthurt]

Here are your top 4 (not exactly apples to apples for them as it is "for the period that hillsignals has been tracking them):

• Nancy Pelosi: +127% performance.
• Dan Crenshaw: +89% performance.
• Tommy Tuberville: +156% performance.
• Josh Gottheimer: +98% performance.

Perhaps most stunning is Trump's net worth jumped to $7.3 billion, up from $3.9 billion in 2024

I don't trust trump's networth numbers.

When he ran in 2016 everyone yelled that he wasn't a good business man and his net worth was exaggerated. yadda yadda yadda

But you can't argue with the performance numbers bc thats based on actual reported by law numbers.

AND ITS A SIMPLE DAMN FIX!!

 

[paindonthurt]

Here are your top 4 (not exactly apples to apples for them as it is "for the period that hillsignals has been tracking them):

• Nancy Pelosi: +127% performance.
• Dan Crenshaw: +89% performance.
• Tommy Tuberville: +156% performance.
• Josh Gottheimer: +98% performance.

Perhaps most stunning is Trump's net worth jumped to $7.3 billion, up from $3.9 billion in 2024

Also not sure where you are getting those numbers but comparing apples to apples

Forbes reported his net worth in 2015 at $4.5 billion
Forbes reported his net worth in 2025 at $7.3 billion

Thats a wapping 5% annually over 10 years.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Also not sure where you are getting those numbers but comparing apples to apples

Forbes reported his net worth in 2015 at $4.5 billion
Forbes reported his net worth in 2025 at $7.3 billion

Thats a wapping 5% annually over 10 years.

Data I saw had him at $3.5B in 2017, losing ~$1.2B in his first term to end 2021 at $2.3B. Two different sources show the gains in this term cited.

ETA: sources were Google AI and Co-Pilot. They were both in agreement about both terms.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I think we are at a point where government employees who's job it is to approve and police all this money the government hands out, should be able to earn "finders fees" on finding fraud. Give them some incentive to care about catching these criminals. It will be way cheaper in the long run.

Plus this is actually a place where AI can be used to search all data concerning the paperwork and find dead people or duplicate SSN numbers or other discrepancies that might take some deep dives to find for a human.

 

[o_Hot Rock]

Of course there's fraud everywhere. But it's a LOT easier in the government sector and you can steal a LOT more money there.

Not really, We got a way bigger problem even having insurance. We waste almost half our healthcare dollar on insurance. Medicare does the billing for about 4-10% and it's corrupt as crap and needs oversight but Insurance companies charge you 48% up front and we give it stupidly.

Both Medicare and reg Insurance are paying fraud claims at an alarming rate. Hospitals over bill every day. Most People don't have a clue if their hospital bill is close to correct or not and that's not new.

 

[o_Hot Rock]