From Russell's mom on genes

[dawgugly20]

Might do some of us good to read.

"usually don't post on here, but I just wanted to say thank you and to let you guys know that I saw the post. I know that the majority of the fans support our boys unconditionally and Tyler knows that as well. Some of the comments that were posted in social forums about my son were heartbreaking and crossed the line. Please know that parents do read this board and so do recruits.*I usually ignore the negative comments because I*have come to understand*that a legless man cannot provide a valid critique of a runner. He has no way of putting himself in the runner's shoes.**Criticism can be positive, and usually leads to growth. A person usually learns more from the things that go wrong than the things that grow right. I don't see anything wrong with voicing opinions or disappointments on this board. However, the best coaches are able to provide criticism without condemning.*I have had a front row seat and have watched what these kids go through on a daily basis.**If ever faced with the choice to kick them when they are down, or to extend a hand to lift them up, I hope you choose the latter. We are a family. In a family, sometimes it is more important to be kind than to be right. My son said, "Mom, let it go. They are just upset about the game. I am good. *Forgive them."**It would be easier and it would make me feel better*to take the bricks that were thrown at my son and throw them back....harder. However, I realize that any old donkey can kick enough to tear down a barn, but it takes the skill of a true carpenter to build one back up. A torn down barn is no good to anyone. I am only one person, but win or lose, I plan to spend my energy on building up instead of tearing down.*I don't know what the future holds for my son, but because I know WHO holds his future it is going to be all good. We are true maroon and we love MSU. #hailstateLast edited Today*3:55*PM by bowwowbully

 

[CEO2044]

I read something similar, and I completely agree with her. Well-spoken.

 

[gravedigger]

Let me just say that if I'm blessed to be in the same position as her, God himself will have to grant me the patience to respond that way. I only know that the day my kid starts the recruiting process will be the day I stop reading message boards for 5 years.

 

[whosyourdawgy]

Amen! That's a very classy way to say screw u bastards that dogged my son

Well said Mrs Russell.

 

[SIMONOVDOG]

Mullen should have pulled the kid

He is as much to blame as our dumbass fan's.It was plain as rain the kid was off and havjng a bad day,mullen sholud have pulled him and let him watch a few series,this was croomtastic.All qb's have bad days and sometimes you gotta pull em out or risk them losing all confidence in themselves.

 

[Coach34]

Let me just say that if I'm blessed to be in the same position as her, God himself will have to grant me the patience to respond that way. I only know that the day my kid starts the recruiting process will be the day I stop reading message boards for 5 years.

It does suck for her at times- BUT:

She also gets to hear 55,000 screaming and cheering for her son as well. Alot of other Moms would love to hear that for their son just once. Got to take the bad with the good. Tyler plays hard and represents the program well. Doesnt get in trouble. Sometimes things just may not go his way and he gets some criticism

 

[dawgugly20]

No doubt. She also mentions recruits reading the boards. But you can't tell the smart folks around here anything.

 

[CEO2044]

It does suck for her at times- BUT:

She also gets to hear 55,000 screaming and cheering for her son as well. Alot of other Moms would love to hear that for their son just once. Got to take the bad with the good. Tyler plays hard and represents the program well. Doesnt get in trouble. Sometimes things just may not go his way and he gets some criticism

Honestly, have you really coached someone ever? It doesn't bother you a bit to hear some of the criticism that comes? She isn't talking about honest criticism and she's not oblivious to the fact that he's in a pretty envious position at times; it's the extreme things that bother her. It would bother me too if I were his parent, and I know from the kids I've coached, I don't want to read some of those things I've seen written about them.

I don't think it's too much to remind people every now and then that they are talking about someone's kid, friend, SO, etc. and they should think about what they say sometimes more than they do. She said it about as nicely as a Mom could.

 

[FlabLoser]

Classy, tactful post.

 

[Palos verdes]

Tyler will do even better next season. I have no concerns with him at all.

 

[Coach34]

Honestly, have you really coached someone ever? It doesn't bother you a bit to hear some of the criticism that comes? She isn't talking about honest criticism and she's not oblivious to the fact that he's in a pretty envious position at times; it's the extreme things that bother her. It would bother me too if I were his parent, and I know from the kids I've coached, I don't want to read some of those things I've seen written about them.

I don't think it's too much to remind people every now and then that they are talking about someone's kid, friend, SO, etc. and they should think about what they say sometimes more than they do. She said it about as nicely as a Mom could.

I havent coached Tyler- so I have no special attachment other than being a State fan. And my post still stands. She needs to chill out and take the bad with the good. Nobody would say anything worse to Little34 than I would if he had thrown 4 picks in the Gator Bowl. It's a good teaching moment- Never let the highs get too high, and the lows get too low

 

[Coach34]

Tyler will do even better next season. I have no concerns with him at all.

Hopefully.

He will have a new group of WR's but return the OL intact, We just need a little scheme tweak to run the ball better to help him.

 

[GloryDawg]

Her son will be in the NFL. He might not be a first or second round draft choice but he will be on a NFL roster. He had a bad game after a long lay off. Lets not forget thier QB made mistakes but they made better of ours then we did theirs and Russell can't help a line man moving early when they got a first and goal on the three yard line.

 

[RocketDawg]

She's right and it's very well written. Tyler had a bad day ... that's obvious. But he knows it as well as anyone else. Regardless of the bowl game, he's the best QB I've seen at MSU and I've been around there a long time.

I really like what she says. Hopefully it puts things in perspective for a lot of folks.

 

[CEO2044]

I havent coached Tyler- so I have no special attachment other than being a State fan. And my post still stands. She needs to chill out and take the bad with the good. Nobody would say anything worse to Little34 than I would if he had thrown 4 picks in the Gator Bowl. It's a good teaching moment- Never let the highs get too high, and the lows get too low[/QUOTE

No, but if you've ever really coached anyone before you know there are some things that are okay to say and there are some low-blows that aren't okay. You could surely put yourself in their shoes- I definitely could with my kids, and I'm not thin-skinned.

I think it's fair to say she's talking about the low-blows that aren't warranted. She's been a quarterback's Mom long enough to know she's going to hear criticism after a bad game. I'd say she's pretty chill for a Mom after an entire season.

 

[mcdawg22]

I have to be honest, in the after game convo's about the coaching, and completely redoing our O for a QB that will play one more year, I seemed very critical of Russell. For that game I am very critical, but seriously, in the grand scope of things who the 17 am I. He screwed up, but he didn't screw up the entire year. I have always said, dude sat on the bench for Three years with offers on the table because he committed to MSU, and never even wavered. That shows a lot of character. Am I disappointed, of course, does my opinion matter in the grand scheme of things, of course NOT. Tyler means more to this university than I ever will so, learn, change, and come out in 2013 on fire. Do it young man.

 

[SIMONOVDOG]

Hopefully.

He will have a new group of WR's but return the OL intact, We just need a little scheme tweak to run the ball better to help him.

We were running the ball fine but, our coach had to throw the damn ball when we were averageing 10 yards a pop

 

[Todd4State]

Quarterback is a very unique position

Honestly, have you really coached someone ever? It doesn't bother you a bit to hear some of the criticism that comes? She isn't talking about honest criticism and she's not oblivious to the fact that he's in a pretty envious position at times; it's the extreme things that bother her. It would bother me too if I were his parent, and I know from the kids I've coached, I don't want to read some of those things I've seen written about them.

I don't think it's too much to remind people every now and then that they are talking about someone's kid, friend, SO, etc. and they should think about what they say sometimes more than they do. She said it about as nicely as a Mom could.

When things go well, they probably get too much credit. When things go bad, they probably get too much blame. That goes with the territory. The reality is it's probably easier for Tyler to take it than his Mom. And I thought she was pretty respectful in her post- I didn't see anything that I thought was over the top, and with it being Genespage, we know they don't know a lot about sports over there- so they probably were saying stupid things over there.

That's the nature of the position- Joe Montana was the best QB ever, and even he got benched for Steve Young at times and was often battling Young for the starting spot. I imagine Montana got booed a few times. Of course, he has gotten a lot of accolades as well.

It's just such a visible position that there's going to be extreme's of opinion.

The truth is, Tyler is probably thinking "Thanks Mom".

The good news for Tyler is he has a chance to redeem himself, and hopefully that will drive him in the offseason and pay off for us next year, and I think Dak will also push him a little bit and that will also probably benefit our team in a positive way. Much the same way that Young pushed Montana late in his career and possibly caused Montana to take it to that next level.

 

[Todd4State]

Hopefully.

He will have a new group of WR's but return the OL intact, We just need a little scheme tweak to run the ball better to help him.

You are correct about this. Our coaches have to help him out because we were way too predictable. We have to utilize our running backs better in terms of using both Perkins and Robinson, and we have to call more screens, slants, etc. Just doing that alone would help out a lot.

 

[dirtydawg40]

From what I have seen from him, he is a fine young MAN! He is discouraged right now, as he should be, but he, pardon the croomesque reference, has more character than most!

 

[Coach34]

No, but if you've ever really coached anyone before

I've coached and you know it. Stop with your ********.

Fans are always going to say things they shouldnt to players and coaches. It happens everywhere. She needs to stfu and move on. Her son is going to hear the cheers of a champion next year- and the ire of an angry mob as well. That is sports

 

[CadaverDawg]

You are correct about this. Our coaches have to help him out because we were way too predictable. We have to utilize our running backs better in terms of using both Perkins and Robinson, and we have to call more screens, slants, etc. Just doing that alone would help out a lot.

I agree. We need to work on some quick hitter timing routes. When teams bring the blitz, it's like we never have a plan to combat it...no screens, no slants, no fades. Just delayed draw plays occasionally on 3rd and long. We're setting Russell up to get killed by not having more short reads.
It seemed we had this figured out during the Tennessee game when we hit Perkins a lot out of the backfield, but we pretty much abandoned it. And I still haven't figured out why we never threw fades to our tall receivers like the Johnson's and Morrow. Everything seemed intermediate. Even JWS knew to throw a deep bomb every few series to at least keep defenses honest. Even if we over throw it on purpose, send a tall WR deep every once in a while so that defenses have to respect it. At least that way you're possibly opening up more room to throw your short and intermediate stuff.
You would think with two TE's like Hill and Johnson, Mullen would study some of Belichecks passing routes for Gronkowski and start taking advantage of our talented TE's.

 

[Arloguthrie]

TR's mom is fortunate to have someone like you

I've coached and you know it. Stop with your ********.

Fans are always going to say things they shouldnt to players and coaches. It happens everywhere. She needs to stfu and move on. Her son is going to hear the cheers of a champion next year- and the ire of an angry mob as well. That is sports

to tell her how she should react to criticism of her son.

 

[CadaverDawg]

I've coached and you know it. Stop with your ********.

Fans are always going to say things they shouldnt to players and coaches. It happens everywhere. She needs to stfu and move on. Her son is going to hear the cheers of a champion next year- and the ire of an angry mob as well. That is sports

Glad you aren't a QB then...you don't take criticism very well***

 

[Corch42]

Tell her to STFU or else you'll dot that eye.

That's how you roll.

 

[CEO2044]

I've coached and you know it. Stop with your ********.

Fans are always going to say things they shouldnt to players and coaches. It happens everywhere. She needs to stfu and move on. Her son is going to hear the cheers of a champion next year- and the ire of an angry mob as well. That is sports

Yeah- I don't know who you are, don't care enough to ever look it up. This quote alone sums up what I need to know of your coaching experience.

Just because it commonly occurs on a message board or within a fan base away from when we know a player or parent is around doesn't always mean it's "okay to say". Somewhere in there common decency should supersede the fact that you can get away with it anonymously if you want to.

I don't care what Montana went through, it's in the very least "professional" football by then, but it's still not right. These kids aren't in the "business" yet. Whether they get a lot of positive attention or not because of their "star status" doesn't mean people should also be able to degrade them because they didn't have a good game.

You want to entice people to come to your school outside of the fact that they want to play football here? Show them you'll support them and won't tear them down. I can't imagine what it's like to have so much damn feedback on my games- I'm not old, but we didn't have this junk when I played. Doubt they had it when any of you played, so you don't know either.

She's just asking people to hold themselves to a higher standard. No problem with that. Wish people would apply that in everything.

 

[ckDOG]

Agree with Momma Russell.

I've never had my failures observed by 50k people at once. I hate failing in front on anyone, I can't imagine how I would feel if my errors were broadcast in front of thousands. That would be roughened would likely handle it very poorly.

The thing I hate most about the performance was that I don't think the staff put him in the best position to succeed. He wasn't on that day. It was obvious. It happens. What was on that day? O line getting a push and Josh Robinson. What does the staff do? Put too much on Tyler on a day it obviously wasn't going to work. The anger should be directed at the staff way before TR.

 

[Wooly17er]

I havent coached Tyler- so I have no special attachment other than being a State fan. And my post still stands. She needs to chill out and take the bad with the good. Nobody would say anything worse to Little34 than I would if he had thrown 4 picks in the Gator Bowl. It's a good teaching moment- Never let the highs get too high, and the lows get too low

As a father, this tells me one of two things: (1) There is no Little34; or (2) If there is, you aren't actually considering what Mrs. Russell is going through....or (3) Little34 really drew the short straw when his old man was selected to help instill character and humility.

This was very well said on her part. I'm sure she's built up some pretty thick skin over the years, but this doesn't mean she should just "STFU" because some message board hero wants to be cheered by fellow dickfarts in crossing as many lines as possible when her son performed poorly in a game. And while I'm sure your refrigerator is covered with print outs of the monumental posts you make wading deep into douche territory, I'm not buying your "As a parent this is what'd I'd do" argument. You should probably thank me for not buying the argument...maybe I'm giving you too much credit.

 

[Shmuley]

What a shame pornjort runs such a ****** board ...

shame on his braided belt wearing pervert ***.

 

[Shmuley]

You're right. His concrete *** should have been on the bench ...

after the second pick. But here's the point. Had mullens hooked his *** like he should have, this woman would have been raising mortal hell demanding to know why her baby was treated unfairly and not given a chance.

 

[CEO2044]

As a father, this tells me one of two things: (1) There is no Little34; or (2) If there is, you aren't actually considering what Mrs. Russell is going through....or (3) Little34 really drew the short straw when his old man was selected to help instill character and humility.

This was very well said on her part. I'm sure she's built up some pretty thick skin over the years, but this doesn't mean she should just "STFU" because some message board hero wants to be cheered by fellow dickfarts in crossing as many lines as possible when her son performed poorly in a game. And while I'm sure your refrigerator is covered with print outs of the monumental posts you make wading deep into douche territory, I'm not buying your "As a parent this is what'd I'd do" argument. You should probably thank me for not buying the argument...maybe I'm giving you too much credit.

Well-said.

Sorry, I don't know you but I know I'd never tell someone I don't know to STFU. Or probably anyone else unless someone really took me to the farthest extreme possible. And I'm certainly not going to say that in regards to some Mom politely saying that while she understands criticism is common, she'd rather people think about what they write more before they write it.

No offense, I like a coach that actually gives a **** about my kid. As a former coach, it was absolutely my job to handle the criticism- both dole it out and make sure it was concentrated. That includes stepping in if something out of line occurs if the situation calls for it. I'm fine if you yell out their number and tell the ref they're being too rough or whatever. But if you step over the line- and sometimes people do- and I felt it was time to step in, better believe I would. Because not everything's appropriate and sometimes grown-ups don't act like grown-ups and no, it's not okay.

Not only that, but you're sitting there telling people who you are and essentially putting your kid in the crosshairs by challenging anybody else that "you can't criticize him more than me". That's bull. You know what kind of crap is said on here sometimes- you'd really want someone saying that junk to him? The only lesson he'd get from that is people are expendable and nobody actually cares about him. Wonderful lesson. While that may be some people's outlook on life, I don't want that to become a reality.

 

[Todd4State]

If you don't think SEC football is a business

Yeah- I don't know who you are, don't care enough to ever look it up. This quote alone sums up what I need to know of your coaching experience.

Just because it commonly occurs on a message board or within a fan base away from when we know a player or parent is around doesn't always mean it's "okay to say". Somewhere in there common decency should supersede the fact that you can get away with it anonymously if you want to.

I don't care what Montana went through, it's in the very least "professional" football by then, but it's still not right. These kids aren't in the "business" yet. Whether they get a lot of positive attention or not because of their "star status" doesn't mean people should also be able to degrade them because they didn't have a good game.

You want to entice people to come to your school outside of the fact that they want to play football here? Show them you'll support them and won't tear them down. I can't imagine what it's like to have so much damn feedback on my games- I'm not old, but we didn't have this junk when I played. Doubt they had it when any of you played, so you don't know either.

She's just asking people to hold themselves to a higher standard. No problem with that. Wish people would apply that in everything.

I have some beachfront property in D'Lo I'd like to sell you. These are 18-23 year old men.

Right or wrong, criticism is part of it, and it goes on everywhere in the SEC. I've heard of Bama fans throwing bricks through Bill Curry's window, a guy killing Auburn's trees, I've seen Auburn fans boo Brandon Cox when we were playing them in 2007, I've seen Tennessee fans boo Tyler Bray, I've seen LSU fans boo their players sometimes. And I'm just scratching the surface.

You can either put a finger in the dam and try to stop it, or you can deal with it. And the players deal with it as best as they can. If he is going to play in the NFL- and I do think Tyler has that chance- he's going to have to learn how to deal with pressure from fans at some point. And Tyler knows that and like I said, I expect him to respond by working even harder and playing better.

You can't run away from criticism in life. I get criticized myself at times and my company does as well, and sometimes I have to listen to it, and hopefully do something constructive with it. Same as anyone else on here.

 

[mparkerfd20]

It does suck for her at times- BUT:

She also gets to hear 55,000 screaming and cheering for her son as well. Alot of other Moms would love to hear that for their son just once. Got to take the bad with the good. Tyler plays hard and represents the program well. Doesnt get in trouble. Sometimes things just may not go his way and he gets some criticism

I don't agree with you often, but on this I agree with you 100%. Even though it's not the positive response it is a true one. That said I hate Tyler got criticized. It was Mullen's fault for not pulling him after the 2nd, then 3rd INT. Personal attacks shouldn't happen, but they will. Gotta take the good with the bad.

 

[Rutherford B. Hayes]

Great players have short memories. You forget when you stink & you don't get full of yourself when you are great as there is a long line of people ready to knock you down.

I know an ex-MLB reliever who was booed and after the game he told reporters after the game, "If I'd of been a fan in the stands I would have booed too. I had a job to do and I didn't do it.

On a more positive note, when Russell QB'ed Meridian in the 6A finals versus South Panola he started the game unable to hit the water from a boat, but he turned it around and later lead Meridian to a huge upset. Yes, it was a far smaller stage, but Russell has faced adversity, hopefully this fiasco will given him the fire in the belly to come back much better.

 

[godlluB]

When I saw Tyler Russell play in the state championship game in high school, I said that before he graduated, he'd be the best QB in the history of MSU, and if things went just right, he might even be a Heisman candidate his senior year. He probably won't win the Heisman, but he's already doing serious damage to State's record book. I've been a State fan for 20 years, and I can't think of a QB during that time that I'd rather have lead the team next year than Tyler.

Was I screaming at the TV during the Gator Bowl for Mullen to put Dak into the game? Of course I was! Tyler was having a bad game, and we needed to make a change. I doubt that there's ever been a QB at MSU who at some point during the season I didn't chant to put in the backup. I'm a fan, it's my prerogative. Fortunately, I don't get paid $2.5M a season to make those decisions.

Tyler's mom is his mom, she loves him unconditionally. At least, she'd better, or she sucks as a mom. We're fans, we don't have to, but if we don't respect what he has done for us, his commitment, and his love for MSU and the state of Mississippi, we suck as fans. We're family, we are expected to squabble, bicker, and fight, but we'd also better stick together and pull the same direction. Mama Russell ended her post with "We are true maroon and we love MSU. #hailstate". No one can question her or her son's loyalty. They give 100% to MSU every day. Do you?

 

[Hambone.sixpack]

Tyler needs to stay in Meridian. He will never fit the offense and Mullen will never adjust to him. We are soft as a team and we have no offensive identity because of him.

 

[Coach34]

As a father, this tells me one of two things: (1) There is no Little34; or (2) If there is, you aren't actually considering what Mrs. Russell is going through....or (3) Little34 really drew the short straw when his old man was selected to help instill character and humility.
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Or (4) Both Little34's wont be thin-skinned, sensitive whiners that worry about what people have to say about them. They will know when they played well and be damn proud of it. They will know when they played like ****- and do what is necessary to try and make sure it doesnt happen again. Fans are uneducated and predictable-You're a hero when you win and **** when you lose. Much like their father, they won't worry about what any outsiders have to say and value their opinion about as much as a copy of Billy Brewer's autobiography.

 

[CadaverDawg]

In other news....C34 has nicknamed the enlarged ****, "little34".*

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[HD6]

Still struggling finding that personal life?

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Much like their father, they won't worry about what any outsiders have to say and value their opinion about as much as a copy of Billy Brewer's autobiography.

Like Colby Rasmus.