They'll get the invite eventually with Notre Dame and 3 Eastern teams, likely once the SEC makes the next move.
FSU Sends First Shot Across the Acc Bow
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They'll get the invite eventually with Notre Dame and 3 Eastern teams, likely once the SEC makes the next move.
where you hearing that.
I just tried to find something about what you stated and only found articles (reading headlines) saying they're are being considered
Probably should've clarified that Cal/Stanford are likely out. Still hearsay at this point.
I posted a Dan Wetzel article in the B10 thread. Besides that I've seen a bunch of things mentioning Oregon/Washington but very little on Stanford/Cal other than kind of also ran comments.
TV networks are okay with Oregon/Washington and it's still complicated to get the financials in order. Stanford/Cal would be much harder to justify.
No offense I wouldn't trust that source but I would trust CFB media like Wetzel who cover sports.
This is the article:
No doubt. Like I said, if Stanford chooses to go Indy in football, I wonder if the B1G would be open to adding Stanford as an affiliate for their Olympic sports.
More comments from Cunningham:
From the article:
"Everyone would like to have more money and everyone would like to win more," Cunningham said during the 20-minute interview. "I don't think you have to have the most money to win the most games, and I think we've demonstrated that over the years."
Cunningham pointed to the nine national titles won by the conference in the 2022-23 academic year, the most in the nation. He also cited football national titles won by Clemson in 2016 and 2018 and Florida State in 2013.
"When you have a general counsel and the university president and the board of trustees says I'm a member of this conference and you sign a document that says I'm granting my rights to you and you have my authority to go negotiate my rights to a network and the league does that on your behalf, I'm not sure how you can just say, 'Just kidding. I didn't like the deal that was struck and now I want to get out of it,'" Cunningham said.
"Any contract, it obligates you to what you agreed to on the front end. So I'm scratching my head, wondering what are you talking about."
"A lot of schools, a lot of individuals are going to have to make decisions about what their future looks like," he said. "I don't see this configuration lasting in perpetuity."
"Do I think that the Triangle schools will play each other somewhat in perpetuity? Yes, I believe in that," he said. "Are we going to be labeled something else? Possibly. But I do think that we're going to continue to play each other. We're too close, we have too much in common and we have a lot of the same sports."
From the article:
"Everyone would like to have more money and everyone would like to win more," Cunningham said during the 20-minute interview. "I don't think you have to have the most money to win the most games, and I think we've demonstrated that over the years."
Cunningham pointed to the nine national titles won by the conference in the 2022-23 academic year, the most in the nation. He also cited football national titles won by Clemson in 2016 and 2018 and Florida State in 2013.
"When you have a general counsel and the university president and the board of trustees says I'm a member of this conference and you sign a document that says I'm granting my rights to you and you have my authority to go negotiate my rights to a network and the league does that on your behalf, I'm not sure how you can just say, 'Just kidding. I didn't like the deal that was struck and now I want to get out of it,'" Cunningham said.
"Any contract, it obligates you to what you agreed to on the front end. So I'm scratching my head, wondering what are you talking about."
"A lot of schools, a lot of individuals are going to have to make decisions about what their future looks like," he said. "I don't see this configuration lasting in perpetuity."
"Do I think that the Triangle schools will play each other somewhat in perpetuity? Yes, I believe in that," he said. "Are we going to be labeled something else? Possibly. But I do think that we're going to continue to play each other. We're too close, we have too much in common and we have a lot of the same sports."
I’m wondering if within the ACC brain trust they’re thinking about kicking some teams out to make room for others. I know this is uncharted waters but if you can replace BC and Wake Forest with say. OR and Wash then add Cal and Stanford. That attracts ND then maybe you get WV to leave the B12. Now FSU & Clemson stick around.
The ACC once counted on FSU to save ACC football. Now FSU wants the ACC albatross off their back. Don't blame em one bit.
Why would OR or Wash go to the ACC? Its Big Ten or not.
Personally I think the B1G will find some kind of justification.
But that's just my opinion without any information to back it up.
Speculating:
The justification could be Academic Prestige, the Bay Area corporations
that possibly would make a great tie in for all the B1G school's students if those corporations feel being alinged with the B1G would help their bottom line , along with the BIG schools working with Bay Area companies in job placement programs.
Also adding the two Bay would make sure the B1G's dominance of the West Coast would be complete complete if Oregon and Washington are B1G
FSU hasn’t delivered for the ACC. So there’s that argument
I don’t expect them to be out in front line we are bc Tobacco Road is their baby, big to be talking **** like thst while at the same time having the same aspirations is typical of Carolina
You think these conversations aren’t going on. We’re talking survival here. Gotta think outside of the box
Certainly going on, but why would Wash and Oregon chose the ACC over the Big Ten?
Lot of balls in the air here. They woulD choose the Big Ten currently but if the ACC decided pick up their game like I suggested above that might change the calculus a bit.
Totally disagree. Only way Ore and Wash are in the ACC is if Big Ten says no, which I doubt they will.
One of my grad student friends was a UNC graduate who always talked about how they did things "the Carolina Way" as if they were honest, pure, and ethical. Funny how the Carolina Way means something very different now.
I feel bad for Washington State and Oregon St because, though they underperformed on the field, they have pretty intense fanbases that were happy in the Pac12.
Cal and Stanford, however deserve everything bad that happens to them. They were part of the bloc who thought the PAC12 was too elite to take Texas and Oklahoma + four others. Now they can deal with being in a beefed up Mountain West.
It’s as hypocritical as Penn state saying “winning w honor” when joe pa was there
what do you feel the odds are that FSU joins the B1G?
SEC membership odds ??
My guess is 3-5 on joining the SEC, if they can get away from the ACC
Hard to say
Maybe 60 % B1G and 40 % sec
Lot of boosters want sec but administration wants B1G
Looks like no one's going to line up and side with FSU. Seems they're aligning together against them with ESPN leading the charge. Let the legal war commence.
It’s interesting RDS & Co. haven’t gotten involved yet, but I’d assume that’s one of the “outs” - I.e. break in case of emergency
I don’t think many people care, they’re more concerned with getting the hell out of the ACC, getting the fair market value per year via TV contract and winning championships
@JayDogSmooth you should be happy to see this development if it comes to pass. You know I've not believed it possible but I have to say I can possibly see a glimmer of hope here maybe if you're FSU.
Have to give you credit, you didn't know the hows or what avenue it was going to be but you were confident and I can actually see it now as possibility.
Have to give you credit, you didn't know the hows or what avenue it was going to be but you were confident and I can actually see it now as possibility.
isn't a shame that RU doesn't have a singular vision on athletics the way others do