I do hope FSU and Clemson can figure this out as I'd love to see the ACC implode
FSU Sends First Shot Across the Acc Bow
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There is benefit to Rutgers if the ACC contract holds to 2036, and less benefit and some risk if it doesn’t.
ACC imploding and becoming less relavent is very good for RU. To argue otherwise is 'retarded' and I say that nicely
2035, the same year Notre Dame Football ceases to be independent and joins a conference.
I am more concerned with RU’s fortunes than getting schadenfreude from schools like BC and Syracuse being left out in the cold.
What is the evidence for your argument that the ACC blowing up is a good thing? The difference between RU being where they are now and where we need to get are not recruits we are losing to ACC schools.
Meanwhile, the ACC staying together gives RU the time to continue their incremental improvement to try and build a solid program before the ACC blows up and makes consolidation into a 24-32 team top tier of CFB a possibility again.
More players. Rutgers will be the only legit school in the NE outside of Penn St., which pretty much has already come to fruition.
Once the Acc is out of the way entirely, our recruiting pool gets even bigger, as to the eyeballs.
The B12 would snap up Pittsburg and Louisville. Virginia definitely and Virginia Tech maybe would find a home.
You are talking about our recruiting pool increasing because Syracuse and BC are cast out into the wilderness.
Well, Syracuse gets few players we want and most of the kids that go to BC will find somewhere else to go with their “anywhere but Rutgers” NJ parochial school attitude.
That is not necessarily a positive development. There is a danger that the lack of a dynamic P5 presence in the Northeast will lead to its further decline at the lower levels, including HS and below. The Northeast is dominated academically by institutions that are not great fans of college football and have gone out of their way to point to its dangers and deemphasize it. That spills over into the lower levels as more parents in this region are likely to steer their children away from the sport than other regions of the country.
We battle Nitts, BC, Pitt, Maryland, Cuse, VT and UVA for guys
Having Cuse, Pitt and BC regulated into a 3rd conference lesser than the B1G (or possibly worse for at least BC) is a good thing fod recruiting
Rutgers at some point will be that "dynamic presence". At least more than the rest of the schools.
I am not going to argue with you, but a competitive environment creates opportunities and provides an atmosphere people want to associate with and be a part of. The lack of big-time football other than one school in an entire region of the country that is already deemphasizing at the lower levels is not a good thing for the long-term viability of the sport in that region and will result in less recruits as more parents steer their kids away from football.
That is the talk and the position of losers, hoping and praying that everybody will just quit and they will be crowned champions by default, winners welcome competition and still prevail.
We are in the most competitive environment. The Big Ten. That's not changing.
Those Acc schools aren't quitting. They just can't keep pace hence why the league will blow up. Our championship goes through Ohio St and Michigan, not Syracuse and Uconn. The acc isn't our competition. However, their failure will give Rutgers an even better opportunity to own the NE.
We were talking about recruiting and the premise that us being the last standing in the Northeast was somehow a positive for long-term recruiting in the region. But never mind, enjoy the rest of your day!
Right. IF you are the biggest baddest store in town, everyone will want to go there to shop.
Not our fault Acc couldn't keep pace. As to mommy and daddy not letting joey and jimmy play football, well, BCU, Syracuse and Uconn being in leagues less than isn't going to impact that either way.
Not our fault Acc couldn't keep pace. As to mommy and daddy not letting joey and jimmy play football, well, BCU, Syracuse and Uconn being in leagues less than isn't going to impact that either way.
If the ACC blowing up now freed up more PA recruits because Pittsburgh was significantly weakened, I would be all for it, but I think they and Louisville would be immediately snapped up by the B12.
I don’t think weakening Syr and BC does enough for RU to make up for the downside risk.
I don't see any risk with the ACC blowing up vs its current iteration and our current situation in the B10 - either way, we need to step up our on the performance, recruiting and NIL or it's all for naught
not in this case and other markets have demonstrated this
your presumption is wrong here
We can argue about the chances that the companies who contract for college football rights will eventually set up a new elite level of 24-32 teams that would relegate the rest of the Power conference teams to second class status. The point is that those chances are somewhere in the range from 0% to a number bigger than 0%.
Given that Rutgers would likely be left out if that elite grouping was set up today, I would like to keep the chances of it happening right at 0% by keeping the ACC intact.
Every year it is delayed is more time for Rutgers to improve their standing.
without a whale donor coming forward, nothing except a sense of urgency will work IMO
This. If you look at the caliber of players GS is getting BC and Cuse aren't even concerns. Right now we have enough money, great new scheduling, and we're the top public school in the NE academically. We definitely shouldn't be rooting for chaos just to laugh at ACC schools. Weird obsession some of our fans have w those schools. It's like obsessing over an ex GF who is 400 lbs and lives in a trailer and thinking maybe she can be 500 lbs and homeless. Who cares?
Well they wound up adding two west coast teams ( Stanford & Cal) plus SMU so as I predicted they would be aggressive and go west just got the teams wrong. BTW, you’re a douchbag.