GAME 30 MINNESOTA: AS OF NOW RU STILL IN BUT NCAA TOURNAMENT BID IN JEOPARDY

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I’m starting to have doubts about Steve’s future here. The singing of Africa was all I needed to see he has no control over this locker room. Ace will decommit shortly and we will be back to eddie Jordan days
Shut the hell up!
 
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bac2therac

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I hate this guy but....

 

bethlehemfan

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It was basically safe.

If we start every game every season from up 10, 1:10 left, against this Minnesota team, we probably lose one every 15 seasons or so.
I get what you’re saying but I’ve seen too many crazy things. Rare yes safe no.
 

bac2therac

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It was basically safe.

If we start every game every season from up 10, 1:10 left, against this Minnesota team, we probably lose one every 15 seasons or so.


it has to happen perfectly but it almost always starts by turning it over on the inbound running no clock..the pass to Mulcahy was the start and there is no way he should have received the ball in that area. It almost always includes a flurry of 3s...now Ru should have survived after that one miss but instead of caleb just letting that ball go out of bounds we touched it and it was off him, he was in front of the Minny defender so there was little chance of the defender getting that board. Then there are always missed free throws...cam can you really fault but if he make his RU is up 74-67 with 36 seconds. Then Caleb missing as he usually does in these situations so no surprise there

when it starts you can only watch...see Iowa over michigan state and RU over Penn state though less dramatic
 

fluoxetine

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it has to happen perfectly but it almost always starts by turning it over on the inbound running no clock..the pass to Mulcahy was the start and there is no way he should have received the ball in that area. It almost always includes a flurry of 3s...now Ru should have survived after that one miss but instead of caleb just letting that ball go out of bounds we touched it and it was off him, he was in front of the Minny defender so there was little chance of the defender getting that board. Then there are always missed free throws...cam can you really fault but if he make his RU is up 74-67 with 36 seconds. Then Caleb missing as he usually does in these situations so no surprise there

when it starts you can only watch...see Iowa over michigan state and RU over Penn state though less dramatic
I've defended a lot of Caleb misses at the end of games. I mean, if you are a <75% free throw shooter you are going to miss sometimes and it doesn't mean you choked. But it's really becoming a pattern, and you add on the other questionable decisions he tends to make near the end of games..

Both him and Paul are headcases imo
 

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EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO HEAR ABOUT HIS GAME INCLUDING THE COMMITTEE

ITS NOT A LOSS TO A 13-17 TEAM. ITS A LOSS TO A 7-20 TEAM THAT LOST 12 IN A ROW

EMBARRASSING FOR THE PROGRAM

we will see but either way its not going to be a comfortable selection sunday
Got a bad feeling about this one unless we slaughter Northwestern :(
 
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fluoxetine

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Reminder that is a somewhat similar situation in 2021, they lost 72-51 to Nebraska before bouncing back.

Don't write off the NW game.
 
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bethlehemfan

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its Rutgers being Rutgers...i even told a couple of people at the rac last week, we will lose to Penn State and Minnesota and beat Northwestern
I had a bad feeling about tonight. Something about that arena ever since a good ru team got run off the court by mychal Thompson and Minnesota 40 something years ago. Haha.
 

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it takes a perfect thread the needle scenario for a comeback like this to happen. When the ball starts rolling though you cant stop it, you never want to start it because you cant stop it. Game was lost when we just didnt make a stop at the 3 previous possessions were were 9/10

When you defense is trash, this is what happens
When this many "everything needed to go wrong to lose" comebacks happen to you, it's a coaching issue. It needs to be improved asap
 

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I never said that. Pay attention.....I equate asking Paul to being a Point Guard to asking Cliff to break a press....both should never be asked (it is sarcasm).

Pike can't put Paul in these situations.....don't ask players to do things that they cannot succeed at. Stop putting this in Mulcahys hands to run the offense. Make good sound decisions and ask him to look to score. He isn't confident or consistent enough or doesn't quite understand the game.

He is a wing player. Give Simpson the ball, if he botches it, at least it will be because of lack of experience, not lack of abilities to attack the basket.
This is where Pike's loyalty to "my guys" gets in the way of common sense. Paul has made brain freeze turnovers in way too many end game situations. Why does Caleb seem to be at the foul line at the end of the game more than a Cam? The staff needs to do better in these end game sequences. and get the ball in the hands of the right players.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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We choked because we are human. We lost because we couldn't match up defensively in the last 10 minutes and get stops and push the lead an extra 4-6 points.

I am more disappointed in minutes 31-39 then minute 40.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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Yeah, very surprised by that, especially because it didn't look like Simpson was outclassed last night. In this game, that should have been closer to 25/22 than 35/12.
Pike has had Simpson in the game for around 500 possessions. There is no way he can and should take the 15-20 possessions against PSU and change how he feels about having Simpson in the game. It certainly doesn't help when he throws a ridiculous lob in traffic to Cliff.
 

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Pike has had Simpson in the game for around 500 possessions. There is no way he can and should take the 15-20 possessions against PSU and change how he feels about having Simpson in the game. It certainly doesn't help when he throws a ridiculous lob in traffic to Cliff.

Since Mag had gone down, Simpson had been averaging 19.7 minutes per game and had played 28 vs. PSU.... why drop him to 12? I think 20-22 would have been a fair expectation last night.
 
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I think we will beat NW and get in, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. As I've thought for a while now this team is capable of losing to anybody and I expect our season will be done relatively early. Been very much a roller coaster this year - but some things that have really been overriding themes all season have really come back to haunt us:

1. We have no offense, and Pike did a bad job of coming anywhere close to replacing Geo and Ron. Very unbalanced team.
2. A few of our upper classmen have very low basketball IQ and it constantly rears it's ugly head.
3. I really expected Simpson to come along faster than he has - this team desperately needs and needed him. It has been very slow - but maybe that has to do with #2 on my list.
4. I do not like the depth on this team - we are carrying too many players who are really not P5 D1 players. A season ending injury to one player (Mag) and all of a sudden we are paper thin.
 
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If true that Pike still had a time out in his pocket when that game ended, then he bears the brunt of the blame for not stepping in to get the ship righted in the last minute.

Our inbounds plays leave a lot to be desired. How many of the inbound passes were right on the baseline which makes it much easier for a quick double team? Also what is Cliff doing all the way down the other end if we are struggling to inbound the ball. He is our biggest target and while not a great FT shooter he was pretty good last night.

Paul has not been aggressive taking the ball to the basket since the second half of the MSU game. If he is not the PG then to me he does not offer that much since his outside shooting and defense are not great.

The brain farts down the stretch bother me more than Cam and Caleb missing the FTs.

I am just passing the denial phase but the anger is still real. If they don't make the tournament, I will not be feeling bad for these guys.

And yes the singing by scholarship players was a bad look.
 
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Allowing the clock to not run was a huge error. Caleb was backing up instead of forcing him to pick it up early. Just going at him in appearance would have done that without letting him get behind you.

But it should have never come to that. We have two guys on the floor, guards, who are afraid of the ball come fouling time. Paul and Caleb.

Paul got the ball when we were up 5. Instead of dribbling across the half court line, he stood still waiting for a double to come forcing him to make a dangerous cross court pass that was easily picked off and of course scored for a 3.

Put in Oskar and the freshman. You can't close out games if you are afraid of the line. There were more plays but just a brutal loss. Worst of the Pike era by far.
I disagree on one point. Paul is afraid of the ball come fouling time but Caleb is not afraid of the ball…but should be.
 
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Caliknight

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I get you don’t want to let them get behind you so I disagree with that. You simply can’t allow the ball to roll to mid court without the clock starting.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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I think we will beat NW and get in, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. As I've thought for a while now this team is capable of losing to anybody and I expect our season will be done relatively early. Been very much a roller coaster this year - but some things that have really been overriding themes all season have really come back to haunt us:

1. We have no offense, and Pike did a bad job of coming anywhere close to replacing Geo and Ron. Very unbalanced team.
2. A few of our upper classmen have very low basketball IQ and it constantly rears it's ugly head.
3. I really expected Simpson to come along faster than he has - this team desperately needs and needed him. It has been very slow - but maybe that has to do with #2 on my list.
4. I do not like the depth on this team - we are carrying too many players who are really not P5 D1 players. A season ending injury to one player (Mag) and all of a sudden we are paper thin.
We get in and you never know what happens. PSU, MSU Wisconsin all are teams that have the ability of teams we may face in the tournament

We have warts. I feel we are a 70-80 type team who is an under .500 team with our schedule for a full year right now. With that being said. We can beat any team in the country even with this roster right now. Realistically the probability of playing week 2 has taken A significant hit though
 

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Slept about an hour last night. Never felt as despondent after any RU lost .This season has been worst than a roller coaster and waiting out Sunday and the rest is torture. But like I said in previous posts all the premature talk about seeding and the essays written before even winning key games just made it worst . Some of our so called "experts" always jumped to premature conclusions and are truly bandwagon fans. The nonsense about Pike/ certain players from the same guys that praised them after wins and attacked after losses is disturbing to me. I guess the blame game makes some feel better but attacking the team even if one agrees giant mistakes were made and opportunities lost actually makes it all more depressing. As hard as it may seem if you're gonna relish in the success you should still support your friends or team in failure. Anyways, nothing makes me feel better and giving up has never been a trait of most RU fans.Did the sun come out this morning? I'm not sure.
 
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