All great.
I feel like the understated complaint is that too many main characters lived. No way they wrap up all those storylines in three episodes. 75% of them had to die to give any real closure a chance
Game of Thrones Season Eight Thread
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All great.
I feel like the understated complaint is that too many main characters lived. No way they wrap up all those storylines in three episodes. 75% of them had to die to give any real closure a chance
Ramin Djawadi is awesome...like someone said Light of the seven was an awesome score too when Cersei blew up the Sept.
He also did awesome work on Westworld...sprinkling in real songs he redid like:
Cream by Wu tang clan
Rolling stones Paint it black
Nirvana heart shaped box
Anyone see the theory going around that when Jon stood up to scream at the dragon, he was actually yelling “Gooo....Go...Gooo”? All to distract the dragon and sacrifice himself while telling Arya to get to the Godswood and kill the NK. I went back and listened. Sounds very close to “Go”. But maybe that’s because I was hoping to hear it that way.
I thought the exact same. But I stuck to it based on its rep. By episode 3-4 I was hooked and binge watching. My first impression of the show was how stupid the opening credits were and the song but by the end I loved everything about the show including the opening credits song. What makes it so good is how how well written it is. The scenarios are written with the long game in mind. Kinda similar to how the MCU is with their movies.
I haven’t read a single page of any of the books and was disappointed with the episode.
1.) There was no true revelation for what the NK wanted. Only Brans theory. So we really never learned **** about him. He never even said a single word all series.
2.) The Walkers should have been the final battle. Cersei and throne are boring as hell compared to the NK. Plus the NK has been set up as the big bad all series.
3.) Not a single white walker fought. To those that say “nobody ever said they are master swordsmen, that’s on you.” I remember a certain episode where Jon had to fight one in a very famous episode and that walker kicked his *** before Jon was finally able to kill him, or escape I can’t remember.
4.) The NK was killed too easily. I’m ok I guess with Arya being the one but it should have been different.
Basically I’m left wondering, if the NK and the walkers truly are dead and gone, what in the hell was the point of them even being in the show? They could have just had the show only be about the throne pissing contest if the NK wasn’t going to do more than he did.
Just extremely lazy and poor writing.
1.) There was no true revelation for what the NK wanted. Only Brans theory. So we really never learned **** about him. He never even said a single word all series.
2.) The Walkers should have been the final battle. Cersei and throne are boring as hell compared to the NK. Plus the NK has been set up as the big bad all series.
3.) Not a single white walker fought. To those that say “nobody ever said they are master swordsmen, that’s on you.” I remember a certain episode where Jon had to fight one in a very famous episode and that walker kicked his *** before Jon was finally able to kill him, or escape I can’t remember.
4.) The NK was killed too easily. I’m ok I guess with Arya being the one but it should have been different.
Basically I’m left wondering, if the NK and the walkers truly are dead and gone, what in the hell was the point of them even being in the show? They could have just had the show only be about the throne pissing contest if the NK wasn’t going to do more than he did.
Just extremely lazy and poor writing.
With Jon and the white walker fight the walker had him on the ropes but when the walker struck Jon's sword it didn't break because of what it's made of, stunning the ww long enough for Jon to counter. No sword had ever held up to a strike from a ww spear thing they wield.
I agree that ending the whole nk army and it's threat in one episode after they were literally built up from the first episode was a bad idea. However I've been longing for Cersei to be killed by Jaime and I hope that prophecy comes true, though it could be Tyrion (sp)? too. My hope is that the Battle laying one episode means the last 3 are going to be crazy with a LOT of twists and death. Plus all 3 are long episodes.
Regarding 3
I said that and it’s true. Jon beat him in sword fight lasting a minute or two. Sam killed one too. Sure they can probably fight well above average but it’s not worth it to them to risk dying and losing all the wights they turned.
There are 3 episodes left and they can't all be only about Cersi. A lot of these answered things might very well be answered before it's over. Bran knows everything, they could spend an entire episode with just him filling everyone in.
Last scene is this show will be Bran's eyes turning blue.
Kind of a weird vibe in the lead up to this episode. Last week it was all speculation about just how many characters would die. Now it is who the hell knows.
At some point Euron Greyjoy is going to have to get an epic death. Maybe Jaime takes him out before strangling his harpy sister with his golden hand.
At some point Euron Greyjoy is going to have to get an epic death. Maybe Jaime takes him out before strangling his harpy sister with his golden hand.
The Mountain rapes him to death because he's crushing on Cersei.
I'm confused by what the show has done to Euron. In the books, he's probably the biggest human threat in the story with his dragon-controlling horn, but in the show he's like a Tim Burton version of Jack Sparrow.
I hope they give him something cool to do before it's over other than just trying to bang Cersei. I also feel like he's the kind of character who would make it out of this alive, but if he does die in the show I expect it will be Yara (Asha) that kills him.
I'm good with a good zombie rape scene. It can't be worse than watching the Stark girls' sex lives and Euron has it coming.
I'm with CatofDaVille about Euron. He's been inexplicably neutered in the show. Now Cersei is stuck with the idiot and will have to marry him to cover up yet another incest baby.
While I typically ***** when people are too hard on the show by comparing it to the books, I'm going to be absolutely hypocritical here. Book Euron is easily the best character to come about in the later novels. (I know he is briefly mentioned in the earlier books). Just a spooky, brilliant sociopath who you can never tell if he is lying or telling the truth or what exactly he wants other than to sow chaos. He's basically The Joker of ASOIAF.
Show Euron is just ok. I mean he does some cool stuff and he is evil but he's subservient to Cersei and does her bidding. There isn't a chance in hell that Book Euron is subservient to anyone.
And don't get me started on the eye patch. Beric Dondarrion has an eye patch. It isn't a hard special effect or costume. Dammit.
Having not read the books, Euron is the best character to come along in a while. Just a straight up villain. No sympathy for him at all. That's kind of refreshing to have a character that has no redeeming qualities so you can root against him. The other villains at least have reasons for being awful or are on some sort of redemption arc (besides Cersei). He's just an ***, and it's great.
Fair enough, but in the books he has an eye patch which makes him at least 15% more awesome.
Euron's death should be by Jaime's hand(s). 'Nuff said. Preferably, right after Euron kills Brienne.
If they have Yara killing Euron... that'll convince me that the showrunners just fell in love with too many "moments" during this final season. Regardless, I sure hope they don't have Euron crying his eyes out at the end.
Speaking of those "moments," I haven't noticed any posts about Lyanna Mormont's giant-killing scene.
If they have Yara killing Euron... that'll convince me that the showrunners just fell in love with too many "moments" during this final season. Regardless, I sure hope they don't have Euron crying his eyes out at the end.
Speaking of those "moments," I haven't noticed any posts about Lyanna Mormont's giant-killing scene.
Yes that was intense. Did not think they were going to kill her off. She took the biggest one with her though.
What's funny is that a bunch of angry book nerds were pissed at the Lyanna Mormont death scene because it wasn't believable enough that she would be able to stab the giant in the eye after he crushed her bones.
I just find that hilarious and ironic that the fantasy series they're all obsessed with that has dragons, fire-resistant women, zombies, and giant wolves isn't believable enough for them.
I've read the books, and they're better than the show (aren't they always?), but there are some internet geeks that take this **** way too seriously.
I just find that hilarious and ironic that the fantasy series they're all obsessed with that has dragons, fire-resistant women, zombies, and giant wolves isn't believable enough for them.
I've read the books, and they're better than the show (aren't they always?), but there are some internet geeks that take this **** way too seriously.
Books are almost always better because 1. they always add more than what a TV show or movie has time to do. and 2. It leaves it up to your imagination and people's imaginations are always better to them than some show someone else's imagination came up with. My perfect story for game of thrones ending isnt the perfect ending for anyone else ... etc...
But I like visual media better... havent read a novel since The wheel of time book 6 because they put me to sleep
But I like visual media better... havent read a novel since The wheel of time book 6 because they put me to sleep
Great points. Hard to believe how much injustice was done to this character, especially last two seasons. He started out perfectly.
Jon snow was another character they really whiffed on imo. Cat too. Noone would fight over her.
The rest they pretty much nailed.
Agree. Tyrion is another one though that was really softened on the show. In the books he's not the clear cut good guy that he is portrayed to be on GOT. He's kind of an ahole a lot of the time. He's also missing a nose and has two different colored eyes.
He also didn't magically morph into an idiot after the show creators received criticism for not having enough strong female characters.
I think the deal that bran made was the let the night king take his body in trade for letting the living win at this juncture.
I do wonder if Jon Snow saw Arya trying to get through before he stood up to the dragon. Hard to tell what he was screaming but he could have been providing a distraction. If you noticed one of the white walkers felt a brush of air and turned to look. That was Arya blowing past him, it's not out of the realm to think she has some powers of illusion/stealth as a faceless person. A lot of others have powers, why not her too?? That might rule out my first point though and that she didn't need a distraction to get around the dragon.
Can't think of anyone that had a better death than Sir Jorah Mormont. He protected the queen till the very end and collapsed without a word. It also looked like during the battle she turned his body to take a blow to protect herself.
Kinda wished Davos Seaworth would have gotten offed. I've grown tired of his poor man act and his grudge against the red witch. He really never added much to the story and has always been undisciplined. IMO he really let his side down in the battle of the bastards by not having the archers fire sooner. Maybe with him gone we could have kept the red witch, although she sucked at predictions she did give us Jon Snow back and hell, lighting all those swords on fire was pretty cool.
Let's face it, the Dothraki were never going to fit in at Kings Landing after the wars. Too savage, though they would have been handy in the fight it was a good time to get rid of them.
I'm still not sure what is left to cover in 3 long episodes. If they can beat the army of the dead and the white walkers in one episode taking Cersi and her band of missionary's should be a walk in the park.
P.S. Whoever posted a couple of weeks ago that the dead in the crypts would be awakened. You were right and I was wrong. [thumb2]
Can't think of anyone that had a better death than Sir Jorah Mormont. He protected the queen till the very end and collapsed without a word. It also looked like during the battle she turned his body to take a blow to protect herself.
Kinda wished Davos Seaworth would have gotten offed. I've grown tired of his poor man act and his grudge against the red witch. He really never added much to the story and has always been undisciplined. IMO he really let his side down in the battle of the bastards by not having the archers fire sooner. Maybe with him gone we could have kept the red witch, although she sucked at predictions she did give us Jon Snow back and hell, lighting all those swords on fire was pretty cool.
Let's face it, the Dothraki were never going to fit in at Kings Landing after the wars. Too savage, though they would have been handy in the fight it was a good time to get rid of them.
I'm still not sure what is left to cover in 3 long episodes. If they can beat the army of the dead and the white walkers in one episode taking Cersi and her band of missionary's should be a walk in the park.
P.S. Whoever posted a couple of weeks ago that the dead in the crypts would be awakened. You were right and I was wrong. [thumb2]
Bran’s weird eyes also looked past the Knight King for a beat right before the NK titled his head and went for the sword.
I think the dead rising in the crypts was handled really well. It could have been terrible and hacky with Zombie Rickon and (maybe) Lady Stoneheart arising for big fan servicey cameos.
Sam made it to and killed a ww with dragon glass, don’t know why anyone is having difficulty believing Arya could do it. The ww aren’t the brightest anyway, they can fight but only the NK showed any sixth sense ability.
The whole of the dead army attempts a war of attrition at the command of the NK at every battle and they never displayed cunning tactics. Arya getting by all of them except the NK has been par for the course on the show for the army of the dead.
The whole of the dead army attempts a war of attrition at the command of the NK at every battle and they never displayed cunning tactics. Arya getting by all of them except the NK has been par for the course on the show for the army of the dead.
Curious to see how much of the army is left and if they find more soldiers, I bet Dorne joins them.
Pretty good summary of episode 3. Never seen this reviewer be as critical before.
If you ignore the fact that last season they were able to contain one in a wooden box, but the wights in the crypts were able go punch their way out of stone coffins.
That guy doesn't get GOT. He acted like it should have all ended right there with 3 episodes left and was left disappointed because things didn't go exactly like the books hinted they might.
Criticizing war strategy of the neanderthal's as if they had radar and cell phones. They didn't have great generals, they had tricks and magic. Jon Snow's name might have changed but it wasn't to the name of the prince that was promised so I'd say it's time to drop that narrative all together.
The criticisms of the war strategy were valid. I think that the show producers didn't know anything about war strategy and should have consulted someone who did.
GoT is in a medieval age, not a neanderthal age. Even the ancient Egyptians and Romans would not have made the mistakes that were made in this battle.
Worth noting, they won the battle. The plan was to draw the NK to Bran and it went off as planned. Still this guy acted like every move was a mistake because he didn't understand the goal.
Who in that war room was a great general or tactician? Jon Snow has made tactical errors in every battle he’s been in, he’s not a tactician. Arya, Sansa, Danny and sam are useless. Jaime was a great fighter but not as a general, Brianne might have been the best at it and yet she never led an army.
Robb Stark was dead, Ned too. I don’t see why anyone would expect anything but errors considering who was left to make the decisions. I also don’t think anyone have the command for the Dothraki to charge in, they whooped themselves into a frenzy and took off.
Robb Stark was dead, Ned too. I don’t see why anyone would expect anything but errors considering who was left to make the decisions. I also don’t think anyone have the command for the Dothraki to charge in, they whooped themselves into a frenzy and took off.