Before today yes improvement. To defend GW after today is stupid. He lost momentum before halftime!
Gavin has moments, but is not improving accuracy
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We had several WRs wide open today and Gavin overthrew almost all of them. He has improved. He went from unplayable to a kid now who simply isn’t accurate between 8-35 yarss downfield. Without a dominant running game you can’t win avoiding that area of the field.
You want to play Simon or the kid that’s fine. They’re not moving the needle either.
Who created that 14 point swing at the worst part in the game. Throw it away and kick the field goal from inside the 10 yard line. Game on!
They aren't making the big mistake either. What is the positive of GW today?The defense was awesome today. Until the multiple 3 and outs in a row.
have you been watching him all year? he's 50/50 on a decent throw! He is not a passer. Sure he'll make the occasional throw but man so many of his balls look bad
With the kicker who missed an extra point? You practice what you practice, then it’s all a gamble.
On the bright side, they haven't switched him to WR or TE yet.
Actually you did. "How about we get him some real WR besides a True Freshman, a Transfer from D2, an undersized slot man and a converted QB who might be the most overhyped player on the roster. We still have zero playmakers and when we play anyone good,"
You can argue how good they are, but I saw plenty of open guys today have balls sail 10 feet over their head or behind them. And last week. And the week before. Hell Dremel was running scot free and Wimsatt threw it out of the stadium. Hope I'm wrong but I just don't see him improving.
And the whole "he's young" thing is getting played out. Yeah I get he came in early, but this is now his 3rd season in the program. Serious question. How long do we wait for the lightbulb to come on? Is he given a pass this whole season? Do we stick with him for two more seasons after this? At what point do results matter over potential?
It's a disservice to that defense who brings it every week, only to trot right back on the field.
Ok rant over, time to go salvage my Saturday.
We’ve seen the Evan show. I’m not interested in the sequel but again Wimsatt isn’t getting it done either. At this point, play it out with Wimsatt, we have the Surace kid coming next year, but we need to get a real vet QB to compete for the starting job next year.
He needs a good QB coach. They’ve had plenty of time to make him at least look like a P5 QB. He even fails the eye test. He stands too stiffly, never looks comfortable running, cannot, I say again cannot run the RPO. He scares no one on the outside and can’t stretch the defense. He does have some skill sets but the OC ignores them.
Actually I think he would good be as
a awesome slot guy. He has skills. He would be dynamite as the check down guy.
Honestly, I’m not sure how you could put GW on Kirk. I agree some play calls don’t make sense but the biggest issue with Gavin is his accuracy. An OC really can’t fix that. The vertical seam route was a classic example. WR wide open, no pressure on QB, and airmailed him by 10 yards.
post of the dayActually you did. "How about we get him some real WR besides a True Freshman, a Transfer from D2, an undersized slot man and a converted QB who might be the most overhyped player on the roster. We still have zero playmakers and when we play anyone good,"
You can argue how good they are, but I saw plenty of open guys today have balls sail 10 feet over their head or behind them. And last week. And the week before. Hell Dremel was running scot free and Wimsatt threw it out of the stadium. Hope I'm wrong but I just don't see him improving.
And the whole "he's young" thing is getting played out. Yeah I get he came in early, but this is now his 3rd season in the program. Serious question. How long do we wait for the lightbulb to come on? Is he given a pass this whole season? Do we stick with him for two more seasons after this? At what point do results matter over potential?
It's a disservice to that defense who brings it every week, only to trot right back on the field.
Ok rant over, time to go salvage my Saturday.
spot on
The answer at QB is never actually playing. He's in the portal, on the bench, in high school, or on some other team after transferring out. The problem is that all the starting QBs over the last decade or so get the same bad coaching and ill-concieved offensive philosophy. This is why every QB who's supposed to be the answer to RU's problems never is.
It was a winnable game with competent playcalling and QB play. Both of those were non existent.
I asked this to the chagrin of the cult but it bears asking, 'why would you send your kid to play here?' After watching the debacle hiring an OC, the portal and qb development, you'd have to be nuts to send your kid to play offense here
Later this month he will be 20, will you still use his age as an excuse?
He’s already working with a biomechanics coach. But let’s be honest — you can either put it on target or you can’t. This isn’t 10 years ago. There’s no reason to give the program to this kid. Go get someone who can play the position. If Gavin improves this offseason and beats him out, again, awesome.
On the play calling side of it
Scored a TD on the same play twice at the goal line
Last week . Why not roll out and give GW the option to run or pass ??
Scored a TD on the same play twice at the goal line
Last week . Why not roll out and give GW the option to run or pass ??
The pick 6 was the same 4th down play we ran last week for a TD. Any decent DC scouts that. They were sitting on the play
99 out of 100 college qbs do not throw the ball on that pick 6. I could have intercepted that ball from sitting in the stands.
Everyone watching the game, in the stands saw that coming. The DB had the angle. You don’t throw that ball.
We ran it more than that. Pretty much every time we got inside the 5 this year. Wisconsin had two weeks to prepare and knew it was coming, they even said so in postgame comments. It was a stupid play call and the coaching staff should have known better, that they would scout it and know how to bait him into the throw. They simply switched from man to zone on that particular play.
He missed an easy TD right before the pick 6 keep the ball and run in. Wide open
anyone want to still argue with me that he'd start at any other BIG school?
I'll say it again, he doesn't start over any other qb in the BIG
I'll say it again, he doesn't start over any other qb in the BIG
He has so many opportunities to run the ball but he doesn't take it.
1.4M should get us more…seems like we have 6 maybe 7 plays.
Better not see that throw from far hash to boundary on goal line situations for a while. They used that to avoid INTs. Ooops. I blame the typical play call after wasting 40 seconds and forcing them to throw.
Better not see that throw from far hash to boundary on goal line situations for a while. They used that to avoid INTs. Ooops. I blame the typical play call after wasting 40 seconds and forcing them to throw.
I meant our ceiling with this coaching staff. I don’t know if we can do it this year. Our best may not be better than their best.
Next week is GS biggest game at RU since coming back. Bill Snyder he is not.