Glad the last round of expansion was desperation for the Big 12-2=10..

Rootmaster

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They needed a couple football brands and WVU and TCU were available. Good for OL seizing the moment. And glad we are not lining up for the current round of Big 12-2=10 expansion now with academics taken a bigger role. Here's why.

WVU is the lowest ranked academic school in all of the P5 conferences. Ugh! WVU is at 175...way outside the number of P5 school that even exist. Numbers are from the US News national university rankings.

Several of the schools climbing on each other to get in are much higher in academic rankings.

Glad we are in the promised land already. Just win baby.
 

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They needed a couple football brands and WVU and TCU were available. Good for OL seizing the moment. And glad we are not lining up for the current round of Big 12-2=10 expansion now with academics taken a bigger role. Here's why.

WVU is the lowest ranked academic school in all of the P5 conferences. Ugh! WVU is at 175...way outside the number of P5 school that even exist. Numbers are from the US News national university rankings.

Several of the schools climbing on each other to get in are much higher in academic rankings.

Glad we are in the promised land already. Just win baby.

What makes you think academics matter more now? Academics have always been a much bigger deal for the ACC than the Big 12 and the ACC took Louisville, whose academic ranking was similar to that of WVU. IOW, academics matter less and less in the conference wars over time. If WVU was competing today to get into the Big 12 with the others in the list they'd be a cinch.
 

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They needed a couple football brands and WVU and TCU were available. Good for OL seizing the moment. And glad we are not lining up for the current round of Big 12-2=10 expansion now with academics taken a bigger role. Here's why.

WVU is the lowest ranked academic school in all of the P5 conferences. Ugh! WVU is at 175...way outside the number of P5 school that even exist. Numbers are from the US News national university rankings.

Several of the schools climbing on each other to get in are much higher in academic rankings.

Glad we are in the promised land already. Just win baby.



This guy here is a troll.

Total troll account.

Vernon should ban your ***.
 
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Let's be realistic.
Conferences that expand want teams that can put butts in the seat and, more importantly, eyeballs in front of the TV, which is paying billions of dollars to get those eyeballs in front of the commercials.
That's it.
Geography doesn't matter, or WVU would NOT be in the Big 12.
Academics doesn't matter much, either. Or Duke and Vanderbilt and, well, yes, Stanford would be at the top of everyone's list.
WVU got into the Big 12 for 2 reasons:
1. TV likes the Mountaineers, the idea of country boys hanging in there with the big dogs.
2. Oliver Luck had a collegial relationship with just about every president and athletic director in the Big 12. I bless the day that Oliver came to WVU, at the perfect time. His predecessor would not have gotten WVU in the AAC. No offense to Pastilong, but Oliver was the most qualified athletic director in WVU history, right up there with Legs Hawley and Fred Schaus.

Now, let's grab a Tiger by the tail and toss it all the way to Missouri.

If you see a maroon Honda Accord tooling down I-79 on Saturday with a JO 4 WVU Ohio license plate, toot your horn and wave (ALL fingers, now!). If WVU plays in Mountaineer Field, I'm always there, unless I'm dead, and I've given instructions for the funeral home to stop by Mountaineer Field before planting me in Northlawn Memorial Gardens in Cuyahoga Falls next to my wife, Monnie, under the double grave marker with "WV" under each of our names. 100 years from now, visitors to the cemetery will know that we are Mountaineer fans.


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U nnerve BYU

N euter Kansas State

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor
 
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Rootmaster

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RobinHood ...this is an attempt to give you something to self identify with..

Psychology Today defines a troll like this:

" An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response."

Now that you know what you are you should feel better. lolx2
 

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Universities dont consider academics of schools based on the potitical us news rankings. They consider things like Carnegie classification and ratings of schools and programs within the universities on a national scale.

They dont rate by a pay magazine
 

Rootmaster

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Okay Buck...what authority figure told you that. Come on man...don't be so defensive about our school. Can't fix what you can't admit. I am a WVU grad and have done fine so the academic standing didn't bother me. However, remember WVU was on a football high the last go round...certainly not the case now.
 
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I got a first-class education at the WVU School of Journalism and had some from Journalism Schools with higher rankings who worked under me during my 43-year newspaper career.
But here's the Cliché College Rankings for Big 12 schools:

71. Texas

92. Alabama

99. Iowa State

133. Baylor

136. TCU

231. Oklahoma State

246. Oklahoma


414. West Virginia


Couldn’t find rankings for

Kansas

Kansas State

Texas Tech

Take it for what's worth. Spit on it. Kiss its ***. I don't care.

By the way, you'll notice that Alabama ranks #92. Is there ANY conference in the country that wouldn't salivate to have the Crimson Tide as a member. I seriously doubt they would look up Alabama's academic rankings.

Even the rankings are subjective. I understand that. What they give more weight to will make schools that do well in that category rank higher.

Back to salient point: Academic rankings in today's college football world of shifting conference realignments are pretty far down the bottom of the checklist.

If a team can bring in more money to the conference than any other team, that will be the first pick. To think overwise is not understanding today's landscape.


M assacre Missouri

O bliterate Youngstown

U nnerve BYU

N euter Kansas State

T rample Texas Tech

A nnihilate TCU

I mpale Oklahoma State

N ail Kansas

E radicate Texas

E rectile dysfunction Oklahoma

R oll over Iowa State

S uffocate Baylor
 

Rootmaster

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If you think it is all about success on the field, then that is my point. The last go round WVU was riding the wave but that has slipped ...a lot...over the last few years, However if it was just football that mattered then BYU would be a lock...which they aren't because of social issues...right or wrong. Bottom line is: this time academics do count more than the last time for the Big 12-2=10. Hey we could be shocked with the picks. Just sayin'
 

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If you think it is all about success on the field, then that is my point. The last go round WVU was riding the wave but that has slipped ...a lot...over the last few years, However if it was just football that mattered then BYU would be a lock...which they aren't because of social issues...right or wrong. Bottom line is: this time academics do count more than the last time for the Big 12-2=10. Hey we could be shocked with the picks. Just sayin'
And if it was academics, Rice would be a lock for the Big 12. Like you said, who knows for sure. I think it's truly between 3-4 schools. The rest are fluff. IMO it's between BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF or USF
 

Rootmaster

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80ate...I actually agree with your school list. That's what I have been thinking. However there is a lot of chatter out there (by school administrators)about the need to make academics a bigger part of the mix with the demise of the thought of a Big 12-2=10 network.I am still hearing the best bets in the end are: Cincinnati and Houston. But ,if the Presidents decide to lean towards academics then Connecticut, BYU and even Tulane get some talk. Who the hell knows at this point. lol.Just do it already.