Grayson Suspended Indefinitely by Duke....

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Maybe, just maybe, he put Grayson back in to force him to deal with a bad situation that he had just created. I have no idea why K put him back in. Maye it was an attempt to force him to control his emotions. Maybe that is a stretch, but do you really think that K put him back in to save the day for Duke? Do you really think K put him back in because he thought he needed Grayson to play to win that game? Maybe, just maybe, it was a teachable moment.
 
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There was only one or two replays inside the arena, and K was talking to refs during them. He was at a bad angle to see it live too. But you go ahead and think whatever you want, since trip gate means so much to you.

Just wow.
 

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Me thinking that a head coach, at the game, watching the game, with five replays, when his player received a technical, on his end of the floor knew what happened is a conspiracy? Ok then.
You do know that replays are a TV thing, right? They aren't actual holograms projected onto the floor, right?
I'm not familiar with Duke AD and President. Are they on the up and up, relatively speaking?
Yeah, about that conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories...

My point, son, is that you don't need to come to a Duke board and question Duke fans' motives regarding Duke's team and Duke's coach. Sports ain't an impartial endeavor. It's partisan. You're no Woodward or Bernstein. You're closer to Joanne Woodward or Leonard Bernstein.
 

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No surprise even on a Duke board on ripping K. Remember this screwed up country elected a Muslim loving racist and someone actually voted for an obvious criminal in this last election. Loons are out of their cages. Me, I choose to trust in K.
 

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There was only one or two replays inside the arena, and K was talking to refs during them. He was at a bad angle to see it live too. But you go ahead and think whatever you want, since trip gate means so much to you.
Yeah, I was at the game also and couldn't tell what had happened live.
I remember seeing GA's arm swinging and wondering if he hit the other player. Then there was only 2 replays and there's no way Coach K saw that. I guess haters are gonna hate. I didn't agree with K playing Grayson in the 2nd half, but he showed his wisdom by sleeping on it and getting all information before making a hastened decision.
 
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In the replay, the trip clearly comes from behind the Elon player, yet the impact causes him to move back and to the left. Back... and to the left...
 
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You do know that replays are a TV thing, right? They aren't actual holograms projected onto the floor, right?

Yeah, about that conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories...

My point, son, is that you don't need to come to a Duke board and question Duke fans' motives regarding Duke's team and Duke's coach. Sports ain't an impartial endeavor. It's partisan. You're no Woodward or Bernstein. You're closer to Joanne Woodward or Leonard Bernstein.

Just going by what a Duke fan said in this thread. He said they showed it 5 times in the arena. And "son"? Your whimsy knows no bounds. Anyway, if you guys want to stick with this "he didn't know" theme, it's really none of my business. It's just silly though. I'm sure I'll be banned for thinking this so I guess it ends pretty soon either way.
 

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Just going by what a Duke fan said in this thread. He said they showed it 5 times in the arena. And "son"? Your whimsy knows no bounds.
You just proved his point. You avoid and dismiss 97.8% of what is said on this thread and focus on what YOU want to see. You have an agenda, it is clear. We get it- you hate Duke, K and all that it comes with. Maybe it's jealousy maybe it's just being a UK fan. Bottom line is there was zero that could have been done that would have been acceptable to you and your fans. Go back to your board or I'll assist you there.
 

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You just proved his point. You avoid and dismiss 97.8% of what is said on this thread and focus on what YOU want to see. You have an agenda, it is clear. We get it- you hate Duke, K and all that it comes with. Maybe it's jealousy maybe it's just being a UK fan. Bottom line is there was zero that could have been done that would have been acceptable to you and your fans. Go back to your board or I'll assist you there.

I'm impressed, you managed to use straw man, non sequitur, and ad hominem argument all in one post. You say no reaction would have been acceptable to me and I'm a UK fan therefore K didn't know what happened. Neither what would have or would have not been acceptable to me nor my rooting allegiance have any bearing on whether or not K knew the dude tripped someone again.
 

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You don't NOT know that it wouldn't!

Like referring to Gerald Henderson as a victim following Elbowgate '07, I suspect K is more than happy to take heat away from a player, and I think that's something to be proud of, not embarrassed by.
I will take Jay Bilas' and Jason Williams opinion on what is embarrassing to the program. It is not like they have an agenda.
 

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I'm impressed, you managed to use straw man, non sequitur, and ad hominem argument all in one post. You say no reaction would have been acceptable to me and I'm a UK fan therefore K didn't know what happened. Neither what would have or would have not been acceptable to me nor my rooting allegiance have any bearing on whether or not K knew the dude tripped someone again.
When all else fails, critique style...
 

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If someone says a=b so a=c, what else can you do?
I don't know... maybe... digress further and further, hoping to turn it into some weird, convoluted form of a battle of attrition masquerading as a battle of wits, hoping to obscure that your complete lack of substance and integrity has been exposed and eviscerated?
 

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I don't know... maybe... digress further and further, hoping to turn it into some weird, convoluted form of a battle of attrition masquerading as a battle of wits, hoping to obscure that your complete lack of substance and integrity has been exposed and eviscerated?

Seriously? Thinking the obvious, that K probably knew the dude tripped someone now equates to lack of integrity? Or are you saying my style of posting shows lack of integrity? Either way, again, wow.
 

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Can anyone think of a single example where a player got a technical foul but was not kicked out, and was then held out of the game by their coach? Like, one single example. Just one.
 
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Can anyone think of a single example where a player got a technical foul but was not kicked out, and was then held out of the game by their coach? Like, one single example. Just one.

Is he being held out for the trip or the tantrum? If it's for the tantrum it happens a lot. Off the top of my head I remember Pitino suspending a player after he faked getting elbowed in the face by a UK player. But again, I can't say for sure that's why he was suspended. Guys get suspended all of the time in professional sports for plays that weren't even penalized in the game for whatever reason.
 

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Seriously? Thinking the obvious, that K probably knew the dude tripped someone now equates to lack of integrity? Or are you saying my style of posting shows lack of integrity? Either way, again, wow.

sobe, you better stand down, you seem to be contemplating going to battle with Dattier. You will be disarmed and left homeless if he shifts into attack mode. Just sayin'.
 
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sobe, you better stand down, you seem to be contemplating going to battle with Dattier. You will be disarmed and left homeless if he shifts into attack mode. Just sayin'.


LOL, I'll get banned if that's what you mean.
 

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Dattier isn't a blind homer. He's always been more than fair and partial when it comes to evidence and doesn't allow himself to be ignorant of what's really going on.

Yes he's a fan and sticks up extra for his team and coach like all us TRUE fans. He nor us nor k nor the team need you to be satisfied with the facts. He's been very fair about the situation while you clearly have an agenda. He hasn't excused anything, but furthermore him and his fair and honest opinion are wanted here, your not.
 
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Your agenda and tone are blatantly clear.

Yes, I've meant for my agenda and tone to be clear that I think all of these posters claiming K didn't know the dude tripped someone are ridiculous. Do guys really ban people for tone?
 

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You just proved his point. You avoid and dismiss 97.8% of what is said on this thread and focus on what YOU want to see. You have an agenda, it is clear. We get it- you hate Duke, K and all that it comes with. Maybe it's jealousy maybe it's just being a UK fan. Bottom line is there was zero that could have been done that would have been acceptable to you and your fans. Go back to your board or I'll assist you there.



It's the carolina way. OFC
 

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Is he being held out for the trip or the tantrum? If it's for the tantrum it happens a lot. Off the top of my head I remember Pitino suspending a player after he faked getting elbowed in the face by a UK player. But again, I can't say for sure that's why he was suspended. Guys get suspended all of the time in professional sports for plays that weren't even penalized in the game for whatever reason.

No no, not talking about getting suspended. That is what happened.

I mean, during the game, have you ever seen a player get a technical foul, and not get kicked out, but then seen the COACH sit the player for the rest of the game as punishment? Because that is what you are insisting should have happened.

This has nothing to do with him punching the seat on the bench... K was talking to refs when that happened, he wasn't sitting at his tv with a camera zoomed in on Grayson.
 

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Dattier isn't a blind homer. He's always been more than fair and partial when it comes to evidence and doesn't allow himself to be ignorant of what's really going on.

Yes he's a fan and sticks up extra for his team and coach like all us TRUE fans. He nor us nor k nor the team need you to be satisfied with the facts. He's been very fair about the situation while you clearly have an agenda. He hasn't excused anything, but furthermore him and his fair and honest opinion are wanted here, your not.

Again, whether I have an agenda or not is irrelevant. And what facts? Are you saying it's a fact K didn't know the dude tripped someone?
 

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Yes, I've meant for my agenda and tone to be clear that I think all of these posters claiming K didn't know the dude tripped someone are ridiculous. Do guys really ban people for tone?

Good lord, stop being a drama queen. Nobody here has said anything about banning anyone except you, over and over and over, like you are either begging to get banned or planning ahead so you can say "Told you so!" An adult should be able to post on a rival board in a tone that won't result in a ban.
 

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Again, whether I have an agenda or not is irrelevant. And what facts? Are you saying it's a fact K didn't know the dude tripped someone?
Dude you're going around in circles. No one cares of your opinion of what you think K Did or didn't know. You've made it abundantly clear. Move along.
 

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No no, not talking about getting suspended.

I mean, during the game, have you ever seen a player get a technical foul, and not get kicked out, but then seen the COACH sit the player for the rest of the game as punishment?

This has nothing to do with him punching the seat on the bench... K was talking to refs when that happened, he wasn't sitting at his tv with a camera zoomed in on Grayson.

Probably. But I don't think people would saying he should have missed the rest of the game if this had been the first incident anyway. If this had been the first time I don't think people would be saying he should have sat the rest of the game.
 

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Good lord, stop being a drama queen. Nobody here has said anything about banning anyone except you, over and over and over, like you are either begging to get banned or planning ahead so you can say "Told you so!" An adult should be able to post on a rival board in a tone that won't result in a ban.

Actually, a mod brought up the fact that I haven't been banned yet.
 

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Probably. But I don't think people would saying he should have missed the rest of the game if this had been the first incident anyway. If this had been the first time I don't think people would be saying he should have sat the rest of the game.
Who cares? Seriously?
 
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