Grocery cost question

[ANEW]

2.64 yesterday at costco..gas that is

Starting to see $2.59 in some spots where i'm at. Obvioulsly the really busy places that have a largely captive populatoin are coming down more slowly.

 

[baltimorened]

Are grocery prices lower?
Nope.https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/food-inflation-in-the-united-states/

here's the thing IMO.prices were high when trump took office and while some things have come down others have not. I'm not an economist, but as I see it, inflation caused the prices to rise from 2021-2025. In ECON 1 it was the "law" that inflation was too much money chasing too few goods'". I think that still applies today. In order for prices to come down there has to be some "deflation" in the prices that were in effect Jan 1 2025. In order to create this deflation there has to be some event, for example, the cost of eggs - the govt increased supply by importing more and at the same time provided cash to farmers to expand their chicken inventory. So no we see a decrease because we're getting supply and demand back into some semblance of balance. Same with oil and gas..more supply will bring the cost down. And while worrying about the number of rigs we have, it's more important, it seems to me to increase supply or, through other means, lower that cost per barrel of oil on Jan 20 which was about an average of 79-80/barrel. Today the cost is less than $70/barrel. So, it stands to reason the price to consumers would go down.

So when people talk about inflation coming down, it's really the rate of inflation. Even though the FED wants 2% that really means that the cost of items will be 2% higher next year than this year. So when people say inflation is coming down why aren't prices, it's because inflation is built into our economy.

 

[TigerGrowls]

here's the thing IMO.prices were high when trump took office and while some things have come down others have not. I'm not an economist, but as I see it, inflation caused the prices to rise from 2021-2025. In ECON 1 it was the "law" that inflation was too much money chasing too few goods'". I think that still applies today. In order for prices to come down there has to be some "deflation" in the prices that were in effect Jan 1 2025. In order to create this deflation there has to be some event, for example, the cost of eggs - the govt increased supply by importing more and at the same time provided cash to farmers to expand their chicken inventory. So no we see a decrease because we're getting supply and demand back into some semblance of balance. Same with oil and gas..more supply will bring the cost down. And while worrying about the number of rigs we have, it's more important, it seems to me to increase supply or, through other means, lower that cost per barrel of oil on Jan 20 which was about an average of 79-80/barrel. Today the cost is less than $70/barrel. So, it stands to reason the price to consumers would go down.

So when people talk about inflation coming down, it's really the rate of inflation. Even though the FED wants 2% that really means that the cost of items will be 2% higher next year than this year. So when people say inflation is coming down why aren't prices, it's because inflation is built into our economy.

Yep...actually decreasing prices is a hard nut to crack. Higher supply and competition can help with it. Deporting millions of illegals should help lower food, gas and rent costs. I hope they set some regulations prohibiting large corporations from buying houses just to long term rent them out. They generally have been overpaying for houses too.

 

[firegiver]

here's the thing IMO.prices were high when trump took office and while some things have come down others have not. I'm not an economist, but as I see it, inflation caused the prices to rise from 2021-2025. In ECON 1 it was the "law" that inflation was too much money chasing too few goods'". I think that still applies today. In order for prices to come down there has to be some "deflation" in the prices that were in effect Jan 1 2025. In order to create this deflation there has to be some event, for example, the cost of eggs - the govt increased supply by importing more and at the same time provided cash to farmers to expand their chicken inventory. So no we see a decrease because we're getting supply and demand back into some semblance of balance. Same with oil and gas..more supply will bring the cost down. And while worrying about the number of rigs we have, it's more important, it seems to me to increase supply or, through other means, lower that cost per barrel of oil on Jan 20 which was about an average of 79-80/barrel. Today the cost is less than $70/barrel. So, it stands to reason the price to consumers would go down.

So when people talk about inflation coming down, it's really the rate of inflation. Even though the FED wants 2% that really means that the cost of items will be 2% higher next year than this year. So when people say inflation is coming down why aren't prices, it's because inflation is built into our economy.

TLDR , are they lower? What policies are making them lower? Is income up? Are there actual policies being debated and voted in to make our lives more affordable?

 

[baltimorened]

TLDR , are they lower? What policies are making them lower? Is income up? Are there actual policies being debated and voted in to make our lives more affordable?

some are lower, some no
reducing deficits helps make them lower
real income is up
debate is just talk. we need positive action in the same way as with the egg and oil examples above. Increase supply, create policies to allow manufacturers/producers to lower their costs.

Getting prices lower is a difficult task. We should look back at the '70s to see what effect lowering the rate of inflation then did to prices. I would imagine we'd see the same thing - some prices came down and some didn't. According to AI search, prices, for the most part, did NOT return to pre inflation prices, they continued rising, but at a slower rate. I expect we'll see the same thing now.

 

[fatpiggy]

some are lower, some no
reducing deficits helps make them lower
real income is up
debate is just talk. we need positive action in the same way as with the egg and oil examples above. Increase supply, create policies to allow manufacturers/producers to lower their costs.

Getting prices lower is a difficult task. We should look back at the '70s to see what effect lowering the rate of inflation then did to prices. I would imagine we'd see the same thing - some prices came down and some didn't. According to AI search, prices, for the most part, did NOT return to pre inflation prices, they continued rising, but at a slower rate. I expect we'll see the same thing now.

He is trolling just so you know. Look through the beginning of the thread at his alarmism and the claims he was making on what would happen. He was drastically wrong.
Same thing with bitcoin. He has been hating on it since we started a thread on it when it was trading about $25,000. He still denies he was wrong even when it’s trading $115,000.
He has a history of alarmism and being wrong and not admitting it. It’s his whole persona.

 

[Allornothing]

He is trolling just so you know. Look through the beginning of the thread at his alarmism and the claims he was making on what would happen. He was drastically wrong.
Same thing with bitcoin. He has been hating on it since we started a thread on it when it was trading about $25,000. He still denies he was wrong even when it’s trading $115,000.
He has a history of alarmism and being wrong and not admitting it. It’s his whole persona.

He has a history of alarmism and being wrong and not admitting it.

Honest question. Do you ever expect a Demonrat to say they were wrong? That **** is never gonna happen.

 

[firegiver]

He is trolling just so you know. Look through the beginning of the thread at his alarmism and the claims he was making on what would happen. He was drastically wrong.
Same thing with bitcoin. He has been hating on it since we started a thread on it when it was trading about $25,000. He still denies he was wrong even when it’s trading $115,000.
He has a history of alarmism and being wrong and not admitting it. It’s his whole persona.

Aren't you the bet squelcher?

 

[firegiver]

some are lower, some no
reducing deficits helps make them lower
real income is up
debate is just talk. we need positive action in the same way as with the egg and oil examples above. Increase supply, create policies to allow manufacturers/producers to lower their costs.

Getting prices lower is a difficult task. We should look back at the '70s to see what effect lowering the rate of inflation then did to prices. I would imagine we'd see the same thing - some prices came down and some didn't. According to AI search, prices, for the most part, did NOT return to pre inflation prices, they continued rising, but at a slower rate. I expect we'll see the same thing now.

Despite what others may claim here, there was a clear promise by the current administration to lower grocery prices. This thread was always about that and what was being discussed and done to achieve that.
Tarrifs and deportation of farm workers seem to fly in the face of achieving those goals. I'll state ive seen 0 actual policies listed by anyone not having to do with bird flu, that lower grocery prices.

Fat piggy is someone that doesn't understand my position on many issues. Even though I've spelled it out to exhaustion. Anyway, this thread is about grocery prices which keep rising.

 

[Weapon_X]

Despite what others may claim here, there was a clear promise by the current administration to lower grocery prices. This thread was always about that and what was being discussed and done to achieve that.
Tarrifs and deportation of farm workers seem to fly in the face of achieving those goals. I'll state ive seen 0 actual policies listed by anyone not having to do with bird flu, that lower grocery prices.

Fat piggy is someone that doesn't understand my position on many issues. Even though I've spelled it out to exhaustion. Anyway, this thread is about grocery prices which keep rising.

You’re spinning a narrative that doesn’t hold up under basic scrutiny.

Yes, Trump has said he wants to bring grocery prices down... and unlike the empty talk we’ve heard for years, there have already been clear measures outlined. Energy independence is a major one. When fuel and transportation costs drop, it brings relief across the entire supply chain, including food. The USDA is also being retooled to reduce regulatory bloat and make production more efficient. Tariffs, in context, are targeted to protect American farmers from getting undercut by cheap, often subsidized imports... not some blanket tax that randomly hikes prices at the grocery store.

And blaming deportations is just lazy. Removing people who are here illegally isn’t the reason eggs or lettuce cost more. Labor is one factor, sure, but it’s not the driving force behind grocery inflation. There are legal visa programs and plenty of advancements in agri-tech to deal with labor shortages. Relying on an illegal labor pool isn’t a long-term solution... it’s a symptom of a broken system.

Also, the claim that nothing’s improved is false. Prices have come down on some key staples... eggs, milk, chicken, butter... all of which spiked during the pandemic and Biden-era inflation. Just because it doesn’t match a political narrative doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

Let’s not pretend tariffs or deportations are the reason we’re still feeling inflation. The real cause is the last few years of reckless spending, energy strangulation, and regulatory chaos. That’s what needs to be reversed... and that’s exactly what’s being addressed now.

 

[dpic73]

You’re spinning a narrative that doesn’t hold up under basic scrutiny.

Yes, Trump has said he wants to bring grocery prices down... and unlike the empty talk we’ve heard for years, there have already been clear measures outlined. Energy independence is a major one. When fuel and transportation costs drop, it brings relief across the entire supply chain, including food. The USDA is also being retooled to reduce regulatory bloat and make production more efficient. Tariffs, in context, are targeted to protect American farmers from getting undercut by cheap, often subsidized imports... not some blanket tax that randomly hikes prices at the grocery store.

And blaming deportations is just lazy. Removing people who are here illegally isn’t the reason eggs or lettuce cost more. Labor is one factor, sure, but it’s not the driving force behind grocery inflation. There are legal visa programs and plenty of advancements in agri-tech to deal with labor shortages. Relying on an illegal labor pool isn’t a long-term solution... it’s a symptom of a broken system.

Also, the claim that nothing’s improved is false. Prices have come down on some key staples... eggs, milk, chicken, butter... all of which spiked during the pandemic and Biden-era inflation. Just because it doesn’t match a political narrative doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

Let’s not pretend tariffs or deportations are the reason we’re still feeling inflation. The real cause is the last few years of reckless spending, energy strangulation, and regulatory chaos. That’s what needs to be reversed... and that’s exactly what’s being addressed now.

 

[Weapon_X]

You are truly a naive, gullible, useful idiot. The post is riddled with red flags, exaggerated claims, and likely falsehoods that get shared because they fit a convenient narrative. Let’s break it down and rebut it clearly:

1. There is no credible evidence that Governor Jim Pillen made any such call to Trump or issued a plea for help.

No public record, news source, or press release from the Governor’s office or major agricultural publications confirm any of this. It’s a meme built on fiction... meant to go viral, not inform.

2. Migrant labor didn’t “flee” Nebraska en masse.

Nebraska’s agriculture sector, like others, faces long-standing labor challenges, but there is no verified data showing a sudden, large-scale exodus of migrant labor that “crashed” the state’s tax base. In fact, many Red states, including Nebraska, have adapted with mechanization and legal seasonal work programs.

3. The $15 billion sales loss claim is laughable.

Nebraska’s entire GDP is around $150 billion. A $15 billion loss would be a 10% collapse... something that would be global news, not a footnote in a meme. It’s economic fiction, not fact.

 

[fatpiggy]

@firegiver

 

[ANEW]

The one thing i find amazing right now is all the reporting on the price of eggs. Everywhere you turn there are news outlets reporing on it.

 

[TequilasForLoss]

Despite what others may claim here, there was a clear promise by the current administration to lower grocery prices. This thread was always about that and what was being discussed and done to achieve that.
Tarrifs and deportation of farm workers seem to fly in the face of achieving those goals. I'll state ive seen 0 actual policies listed by anyone not having to do with bird flu, that lower grocery prices.
… Anyway, this thread is about grocery prices which keep rising.

I’ll add an element that is completely apolitical.

A lot of people aren’t being responsible consumers.

When prices go up and we just b!tch about it but keep paying, that’s how Publix and Kroger post record profits amid a price surge.

Do your part and find places that sell the same thing or similar at a cheaper price.

And hey, sometimes, go without. Wait for prices to drop.

This isn’t a total solution but it’s a key ingredient in downward price pressure that’s missing far too often right now.

 

[fatpiggy]

I’ll add an element that is completely apolitical.

A lot of people aren’t being responsible consumers.

When prices go up and we just b!tch about it but keep paying, that’s how Publix and Kroger post record profits amid a price surge.

Do your part and find places that sell the same thing or similar at a cheaper price.

And hey, sometimes, go without. Wait for prices to drop.

This isn’t a total solution but it’s a key ingredient in downward price pressure that’s missing far too often right now.

Sounds an awful lot like capitalism

 

[baltimorened]

I’ll add an element that is completely apolitical.

A lot of people aren’t being responsible consumers.

When prices go up and we just b!tch about it but keep paying, that’s how Publix and Kroger post record profits amid a price surge.

Do your part and find places that sell the same thing or similar at a cheaper price.

And hey, sometimes, go without. Wait for prices to drop.

This isn’t a total solution but it’s a key ingredient in downward price pressure that’s missing far too often right now.

I live across the street from a whole foods...maybe highest prices of all food stores. It's always crowded. People might complain about prices but still go there.

There's an aldi's maybe a 1 1/2 miles up the road.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

here's the thing IMO.prices were high when trump took office and while some things have come down others have not. I'm not an economist, but as I see it, inflation caused the prices to rise from 2021-2025. In ECON 1 it was the "law" that inflation was too much money chasing too few goods'". I think that still applies today. In order for prices to come down there has to be some "deflation" in the prices that were in effect Jan 1 2025. In order to create this deflation there has to be some event, for example, the cost of eggs - the govt increased supply by importing more and at the same time provided cash to farmers to expand their chicken inventory. So no we see a decrease because we're getting supply and demand back into some semblance of balance. Same with oil and gas..more supply will bring the cost down. And while worrying about the number of rigs we have, it's more important, it seems to me to increase supply or, through other means, lower that cost per barrel of oil on Jan 20 which was about an average of 79-80/barrel. Today the cost is less than $70/barrel. So, it stands to reason the price to consumers would go down.

So when people talk about inflation coming down, it's really the rate of inflation. Even though the FED wants 2% that really means that the cost of items will be 2% higher next year than this year. So when people say inflation is coming down why aren't prices, it's because inflation is built into our economy.

@baltimorened

Dear Sir

I was talking to my financial advisor also known as my wife regarding grocery prices after seeing the inflation report coming in slightly cooler.

Our conversation covered like gas and eggs which dropped like a rock, however she says grocery prices are still elevated 6 months after Trump has taken office.

Our talk was that something has to happen to drive prices down. Our consensus is that the supply is still fight due to suppliers cutting back on supplies like 2 years or so back and the shortage is still working through the supply chain.

As an example Miracle Whip in one store is $ 9.67 and down the street $ 4.55.

I always here the margins in grocery is like 2%.

Obviously that is not the case with this product.

So my thought is we need to encourage production or the supply

Lower interest rates would definitely help

Also the government buying massive supplies for illegal immigrants damaged the food shelter clothing etc supply chain

That’s my story and I am sticking to it

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

I live across the street from a whole foods...maybe highest prices of all food stores. It's always crowded. People might complain about prices but still go there.

There's an aldi's maybe a 1 1/2 miles up the road.

Have started shopping Aldi’s

Great prices on very good products

I prefer Publix or Harris Teeter but for just basic foods Aldi is tough to beat

 

[TequilasForLoss]

I live across the street from a whole foods...maybe highest prices of all food stores. It's always crowded. People might complain about prices but still go there.

There's an aldi's maybe a 1 1/2 miles up the road.

and although this thread is groceries, the theory is broadly applicable.

reduce the demand, let the supply build up, then later on we can all buy for less. make do in the meantime.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Here’s my fun on eggs thing

My wife has pet chickens and we have eggs coming out our ears

She was not happy with the scrappy grass shed for her chickens I built out of my scrap lumber so I had to invest in a top of the line chicken coop with all the bells and whistles for $7500

So my eggs are free according to her but as I depreciate the cost of the coop I figure about $25 a dozen LOL

 

[firegiver]

Sooo everyone, are grocery prices down?

 

[baltimorened]

@baltimorened

Dear Sir

I was talking to my financial advisor also known as my wife regarding grocery prices after seeing the inflation report coming in slightly cooler.

Our conversation covered like gas and eggs which dropped like a rock, however she says grocery prices are still elevated 6 months after Trump has taken office.

Our talk was that something has to happen to drive prices down. Our consensus is that the supply is still fight due to suppliers cutting back on supplies like 2 years or so back and the shortage is still working through the supply chain.

As an example Miracle Whip in one store is $ 9.67 and down the street $ 4.55.

I always here the margins in grocery is like 2%.

Obviously that is not the case with this product.

So my thought is we need to encourage production or the supply

Lower interest rates would definitely help

Also the government buying massive supplies for illegal immigrants damaged the food shelter clothing etc supply chain

That’s my story and I am sticking to it

I shop at Aldi...prices are significantly cheaper.

If you go back and look at the high inflation of the 80s, when the RATE of inflation came down, the price increases generated during the period of high inflation didn't come down. It will be the same things time IMO. If I read the figures from today's report correctly, there has been DEFLATION in the case of a few items, but not many.

Love the idea of lower interest rates, I'm trying to sell a condo.

All in favor of lowering gas prices and increasing supply. Sounds like sound economic policy to me. Also in favor of higher real wages.

Sooo everyone, are grocery prices down?

the answer from one persons perspective...some are down, some are up and some are the same.

And you have to define "down". Down from the Biden days of 9% inflation or down from the last days of Trump administration.?

Now from an older persons perspective, costs/prices don't go down. Inflation is built into our economy. In the 1960s you could buy a top of the line mustang convertible for about $2600. Now, mustang convertible would likely cost in the $40000s. Just read an article about one of the TV shows where man gets windfall of $300,000 and he's probably in 1%. Equivalent today is estimated at $9-10 million.

McDonalds hamburger was $.19 when it opened in the 1950s.

If you're waiting for prices to come down, you'll likely be disappointed. That's why I posted in another thread, when trump said he would end inflation on day 1, I didn't believe him, because I knew it was not possible.

 

[scotchtiger]

and although this thread is groceries, the theory is broadly applicable.

reduce the demand, let the supply build up, then later on we can all buy for less. make do in the meantime.

I don’t think that approach is for me. Life is too short for my family to “make do.”

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

You’re spinning a narrative that doesn’t hold up under basic scrutiny.

Yes, Trump has said he wants to bring grocery prices down... and unlike the empty talk we’ve heard for years, there have already been clear measures outlined. Energy independence is a major one. When fuel and transportation costs drop, it brings relief across the entire supply chain, including food. The USDA is also being retooled to reduce regulatory bloat and make production more efficient. Tariffs, in context, are targeted to protect American farmers from getting undercut by cheap, often subsidized imports... not some blanket tax that randomly hikes prices at the grocery store.

And blaming deportations is just lazy. Removing people who are here illegally isn’t the reason eggs or lettuce cost more. Labor is one factor, sure, but it’s not the driving force behind grocery inflation. There are legal visa programs and plenty of advancements in agri-tech to deal with labor shortages. Relying on an illegal labor pool isn’t a long-term solution... it’s a symptom of a broken system.

Also, the claim that nothing’s improved is false. Prices have come down on some key staples... eggs, milk, chicken, butter... all of which spiked during the pandemic and Biden-era inflation. Just because it doesn’t match a political narrative doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

Let’s not pretend tariffs or deportations are the reason we’re still feeling inflation. The real cause is the last few years of reckless spending, energy strangulation, and regulatory chaos. That’s what needs to be reversed... and that’s exactly what’s being addressed now.

You are pretty much spot on

Trump and his MAGA agenda is putting everything in place to make America

Sooo everyone, are grocery prices down?

Depends on the product , the location you are shopping, stores , food brands, etc

I could try to explain location or zip code pricing but unfortunately your steel trap mind when it trips whether a squirrel or bear is shut tight

In general I will agree the food prices have been slow in dropping back to pre Biden levels

But then it takes time to rebuild a supply chain

Prices are going to start falling late Fall and into 2026

 

[firegiver]

You are pretty much spot on

Trump and his MAGA agenda is putting everything in place to make America


Depends on the product , the location you are shopping, stores , food brands, etc

I could try to explain location or zip code pricing but unfortunately your steel trap mind when it trips whether a squirrel or bear is shut tight

In general I will agree the food prices have been slow in dropping back to pre Biden levels

But then it takes time to rebuild a supply chain

Prices are going to start falling late Fall and into 2026

So a lot of words for: no

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

So a lot of words for: no

I was sitting in bed thinking about what answer you were trying to get to suit your narrative

My answer is that prices and huge inflation on food and products driven by Biden have slowed and are where they are.

Trump’s economic plan is starting from the elevated Biden levels which in some cases still has forward motion.

The continuation of inflation has been broken

Now the issue is to safely deflate commodities and prices across all industries as if inventories are deflated in value quickly it will cause huge financial paper losses

Do you understand that concept

 

[TigerGrowls]

So a lot of words for: no

Food up 0% in July. Just admit defeat and buy yourself a MAGA hat. You will feel better.

 

[baltimorened]

Food up 0% in July. Just admit defeat and buy yourself a MAGA hat. You will feel better.

is the price of a MAGA hat higher or lower

 

[dpic73]

is the price of a MAGA hat higher or lower

Depends on where the China tariffs are ATM

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Depends on where the China tariffs are ATM

Post your name and home address on here and I will send you two MAGA HATS FREE

 

[dpic73]

Post your name and home address on here and I will send you two MAGA HATS FREE

You can send me more than that when I have my next bonfire. As a matter of fact, round up the red hats from all your friends and family and feel free to donate. Thanks!

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

You can send me more than that when I have my next bonfire. As a matter of fact, round up the red hats from all your friends and family and feel free to donate. Thanks!

OK WILL DO SEND DETAILS I REQUESTED AND YOU WILL GET A BUNDLE

 

[dpic73]

OK WILL DO SEND DETAILS I REQUESTED AND YOU WILL GET A BUNDLE

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[PalmettoTiger1]

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I would rather send them to your house where we could have the news report on your bonfire out there in California.

 

[dpic73]

I would rather send them to your house where we could have the news report on your bonfire out there in California.

California Georgia? I live in Atlanta d'oh