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  • Jon Hood never played enough to have a real opinion about his game. But he stayed here 4 years and for that I give him props.
  • Willis is one of the guys I thought Cal did wrong (Kevin Galloway the other). Could have had him bombing corner threes for years, but Cal was pissed that Willis wasn't the second coming of Trey Lyles or something. Btw, regarding Galloway, I don't know exactly what went down, but per my understanding Cal just came in and send "you're gone". And back then you had to sit a year and lose a year of eligibility (because he had already had a transfer year) in the process of it.
  • My All-I Don't Respect Them Team for UK Basketball under Cal:
    • PG: Askew
    • SG: Terrence Clark
    • SF: Brandon Boston
    • PF: EJ Montgomery
    • C: Sarr
 
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Anon1700452283

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Quade Green
Adam Williams
Sacha Killeya Jones
Alex Legion
Michael Porter
Cory Sears
Shaedon Sharpe

And this dude picks 2 Kentucky kids 🙄
My favorite Cat is a KY kid, I don’t discriminate.

Willis was maddening to me and the fans clamoring for more of him made it worse.

For Hood, I should’ve said stuck up rather than soft. I saw him big timing some kids once and maybe have unfairly held that against him.
 
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Anon1700452283

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If Shaedon Sharpe isn’t your least favorite cat and your reasoning is “too soft for my liking” then um…………

Ashton Hagans and Wheeler quit on their teams.

The Dragon(did he have a name?) also quit.

Then, and this may be my 2nd all time most hated and soft, Ryan Harrow!
When I said I wanted the godfathers of this thread to post more, I didn’t mean the creepy uncle.
 

Ron Mehico

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Don’t care for Willis one bit and found him extremely unlikable. The most perfect encapsulation of how he played was missing the wide open corner 3 in the elite eight game against UNC that would’ve sealed it followed by playing absolutely no defense whatsoever on Maye for the winning shot. Leisure suit Larry loved his gf though.
 

fatguy87

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Loved Willis and playing him more minutes salvaged the 2016 season. There aren't many stretch 4's who have TS%'s in excess of 65 and have defensive rebound %'s over 17.

Willis should've played more minutes during the 2017 season as well. He was better or on par with Gabriel in every category except offensive rebounding and probably penis size. Believe it or not, he lead the 2017 team in box plus-minus.
 
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I listened to a couple podcasts/YouTube videos. Were they the ones who basically asked why give up being a hero in that hotbed of basketball called Florida only to go to Kentucky and be forgotten after you are done? Or things like that.

He's going to possibly get LESS minutes.

The difference between Florida's offer and Kentucky's was minimal (not sure how they'd even know that)

It cheapens the game when you give up returning to Florida, as the defending champion for money.


Just lame **** that never seemed to bother them until NOW.

And yes, RL's ex is Stage 5 batshit crazy. First time I met her, at a UK Football game it was clear as day.
 

fatguy87

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He's going to possibly get LESS minutes.

The difference between Florida's offer and Kentucky's was minimal (not sure how they'd even know that)

It cheapens the game when you give up returning to Florida, as the defending champion for money.


Just lame **** that never seemed to bother them until NOW.
NCAA rules restricting pay and player movement being evil was the collective media line for the better part of the last decade. Coaches can do x. It’s unfair players can’t do x as well.

Now players have freedom to move from school to school without any restraint, libertarian freedom. They can do it for pay or any reason really.

Pundits can spare me the histrionics. This what they wished for. The values they hold over how and what NCAA basketball ought to mean is different than what a 20 year old has. They conceded the power to shape them to the players. Shocked Pikachu face when the players make decisions not in line with what media thinks is best.
 
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krazykats

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Loved Willis and playing him more minutes salvaged the 2016 season. There aren't many stretch 4's who have TS%'s in excess of 65 and have defensive rebound %'s over 17.

Willis should've played more minutes during the 2017 season as well. He was better or on par with Gabriel in every category except offensive rebounding and probably penis size. Believe it or not, he lead the 2017 team in box plus-minus.

Welp that settles it, this fella been bringing the real deal stats since his first post.

That OG enough?
 
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Unless Oweh starts at the 3, Aberdeen isn't going to start, do you think? He's a good player, but it feels like Pope got his starting PG when Lowe came here. And if Oweh starts at the 2, then Aberdeen will be the backup, and he'll be helluva backup, because he can spot both positions (1 AND 2) Jasper and Perry would seem to be the odd men out (unless Jasper just lights it up, and you HAVE to play him. Anyway though, it seems like those three (Lowe, Aberdeen, and Oweh) will get the lion's share of the minutes.

Just my non-basketball being take.
 

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Unless Oweh starts at the 3, Aberdeen isn't going to start, do you think? He's a good player, but it feels like Pope got his starting PG when Lowe came here. And if Oweh starts at the 2, then Aberdeen will be the backup, and he'll be helluva backup, because he can spot both positions (1 AND 2) Jasper and Perry would seem to be the odd men out (unless Jasper just lights it up, and you HAVE to play him. Anyway though, it seems like those three (Lowe, Aberdeen, and Oweh) will get the lion's share of the minutes.

Just my non-basketball being take.
Isn’t it fun, though?
 

btodd0224 n/a?

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I’m going to say this again, look at the roster when Pope played here. Absolutely loaded and should have won 3 straight Championships. He has the experience of being on loaded teams and can explain that strategy with firsthand knowledge.

He’s going to run teams into the ground, just like they did in ‘96. He’s also setting the foundation for multiple runs, just like’96-98. Just sit back and enjoy watching other team’s players walking up the court in the 2nd half. The Comeback Cats say hi, and they weren’t the most talented of the three.

Still remember sitting in a bar catching **** from everyone in there, down 10 at halftime. I didn’t even reply, just let them have their moment. I had bet almost everyone in there. Right before the 2nd half started, I stood up from my barstool and told them all, when Utah’s big men start walking up the court with 10 minutes to go, get your money out and pass it this way. The rest is history, damn sweet and profitable history!!

We’re back to where we should be, making runs to the FINAL FOUR and winning CHAMPIONSHIPS! Teams are going to fear us, just like it should be!!
 

kybobcat_rivals185207

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I’m going to say this again, look at the roster when Pope played here. Absolutely loaded and should have won 3 straight Championships. He has the experience of being on loaded teams and can explain that strategy with firsthand knowledge.

He’s going to run teams into the ground, just like they did in ‘96. He’s also setting the foundation for multiple runs, just like’96-98. Just sit back and enjoy watching other team’s players walking up the court in the 2nd half. The Comeback Cats say hi, and they weren’t the most talented of the three.

Still remember sitting in a bar catching **** from everyone in there, down 10 at halftime. I didn’t even reply, just let them have their moment. I had bet almost everyone in there. Right before the 2nd half started, I stood up from my barstool and told them all, when Utah’s big men start walking up the court with 10 minutes to go, get your money out and pass it this way. The rest is history, damn sweet and profitable history!!

We’re back to where we should be, making runs to the FINAL FOUR and winning CHAMPIONSHIPS! Teams are going to fear us, just like it should be!!

 

Anon1700452283

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Unless Oweh starts at the 3, Aberdeen isn't going to start, do you think? He's a good player, but it feels like Pope got his starting PG when Lowe came here. And if Oweh starts at the 2, then Aberdeen will be the backup, and he'll be helluva backup, because he can spot both positions (1 AND 2) Jasper and Perry would seem to be the odd men out (unless Jasper just lights it up, and you HAVE to play him. Anyway though, it seems like those three (Lowe, Aberdeen, and Oweh) will get the lion's share of the minutes.

Just my non-basketball being take.
The other option is starting Dioubate at the 3 with Aberdeen coming off the bench but I don't think it would happen until later in the year. At the beginning of the year, I don't think JQ starts as they will try to bring him in slowly given his injury status.

When JQ is ready to start, it could be instead of BG, Dioubate or Aberdeen.
 
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anthonys735

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-Hating on Toys R Us as a kid is certainly a ****** take. We worshiped. Video game wall and room was amazing. Don't sleep on the slot car section. Tricking them out with neon tires. Damn. New game, Pizza Hut, 2 Liter of Coke, that's what dreams were made of.

-Not sure how great it is for the sport but the portal is entertaining AF.

-Sounds like Mark really let it hang out. Estimated 20.5M roster. Let's hope he can manage it. The big money rosters mostly struggled last year. As we saw this year, we still need a that dude. Hopefully it's Oweh.

-Playing with our starting lineup is so much fun.
Lowe - Jahnson - Perry
Aberdeen - Chandler
Oweh - Kam Williams
Dioubate - Jelavic - Noah
Garrison - JQ (when healthy) - Moreno

-When we told the kids about the Pop dying, the youngest freaked out for a second because he thought we meant Mark Pope. Lol.

-I **think** we're over the hump and in to spring proper with the weather. Next 10 look fantastic. Last night at the ballpark was magical. Gimme that 75 and partly cloudy Derby we deserve.

-We're in the heat of the battle now. Since returning from Spring Break we've had 15 baseball events. That's 9 days.

-Time to catch up on the NHL scene. I love the playoffs.
 
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Anon1700452283

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-Sounds like Mark really let it hang out. Estimated 20.5M roster. Let's hope he can manage it. The big money rosters mostly struggled last year. As we saw this year, we still need a that dude. Hopefully it's Oweh.

-Playing with our starting lineup is so much fun.
Lowe - Jahnson - Perry
Aberdeen - Chandler
Oweh - Kam Williams
Dioubate - Jelavic - Noah
Garrison - JQ (when healthy) - Moreno
I think JJ will back up mostly at the 2 with Aberdeen and Chandler playing more minutes at the 1 than him.

I think part of the reason he went so deep with his roster this year is to try to give us plenty of insurance in case injuries happen again.

It will be interesting to see what happens if Perry leaves and what he does with that roster spot (last day for his to get in the portal is today).

We're still trying to get Brandon Hawthorne who's a 4 star decommit from WVU as well.
 

wcc31

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Shorts:

- I think the starting lineup in November will be:

1- Lowe
2- Oweh
3- Aberdeen
4- Dioubate
5- Garrison

Upstarts JQ and Chandler threatening the 2/5 spots. X-factors being the Euro and Williams.

- Pretty clear considering the words coming outta his mouth, his substitution behavior and team-building that Pope values depth in the same way his mentor does. For Pitino, it was mostly for defense. For Pope, it’s driven by the effort spent in his offense.

- If you were to nitpick I suppose you could point to the lack of a sniper and too many mouths to feed. I think Lowe turns into a good shooter this year and Chandler/Johnson have sniper potential.

- Tough to rate my favorite pickups. JQ gives legit Webber vibes with the way he moves, passes, build and freaky athleticism. I think Lowe’s a stud in the making and his vision will be fun. Dioubate is just an ornery MFer I hated playing against last year.

- BBN is a handful but you can legit get informed opinions on any player in the country because these MFers watch so much ball.

- Speaking of, The Faithful didn’t just blindly decide to believe in Mark Pope last April. That’s a misnomer. After the decision, BBN started doing research and watching tape. Once we took a look, we saw a guy who with our resources could do really well. We knew Pope. We knew how intelligent and charismatic he was. Dude would be a CEO or CMO if he wasn’t a ball coach. Once we dove into his BYU offense, we got it.

- Love the college basketball media quirk where every hire of a midmajor coach is a surefire winner.

- You see some of these newly hired offensive wizzes going shooting, but Pope realized athleticism and D is more important actually.

- Florida received 2 votes in the preseason AP poll last year.

- Have always appreciated the Hunt Bros. Pizza business model. Targeting gas stations for their **** pie.

- Minka Kelly still 🔥 at 44. An all-timer.

- Would be nice if Oats scooted off to the pros.
 

krazykats

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Perry heading down to WKU for a season could be best for him. I’m sure he’d have other options too, but they have been solid at their level in and out of conference.

I love the kid, but he’d be doing himself a disservice to sit this bench hoping for a SR year run.

Then again as a KY boy sitting the bench on a potential championship run would be fine by me.
 

anthonys735

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Perry heading down to WKU for a season could be best for him. I’m sure he’d have other options too, but they have been solid at their level in and out of conference.

I love the kid, but he’d be doing himself a disservice to sit this bench hoping for a SR year run.

Then again as a KY boy sitting the bench on a potential championship run would be fine by me.
If he wants to play, go, but being a role player as a 6' Kentuckian, and making 250k isn't a bad gig. I'd like to see him stick. Long term, for him, being a 4-5 year UK player is massive.
 

Ron Mehico

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I don’t believe that 20.5 million dollar amount for a second. I don’t think anybody has a damn clue what rosters cost. 2 weeks ago Kentucky couldn’t compete. Last week Duke had 30 million, this week Kentucky has the more than BYU, etc. just feel agents are floating around numbers to reporters to keep driving up prices. There is a Florida insider who has posted occasionally on rafters the last 15 years that’s legit. He said the Florida guard we signed had 2 higher offers than us but chose us. He did say we offered more than Florida though, and he said it was less than the 2 million reported by Goodman and others.

Which leads me to my more exciting point: it seems we have something amazing happening - players seem to be enjoying playing for the University of Kentucky men’s bball team for the first time in ten years

Oweh - likely to return
BG - back
Chandler - back
Noah - back
Perry - probably back

That’s pretty much every player returning. That’s amazing. When was the last time we had that happen? Continuity is one of the most difficult but yet important factors for team success in this era and it looks like we have a coach that prioritizes it. I don’t know if it’s his positive coaching style or what, but that’s exciting ****
 

tallkat70

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Someone in Rafters posted that they weren't so sure a significant amount of our NIL isn't coming from the Mormon church to promote Pope and indirectly the spread of the religion. WTF do you even say to that? NIL, how much there is and where it comes from, is a mystery to man. It is up there with is there a God and why are we here?
 

BBdK

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The $ is a big factor, of course. But, in time, I think it will be shown that it's just as much about the type of actual kid/family Pope is recruiting. He clearly recruits with "fit' in mind over ANYTHING.

I mean, just look at the collection of actual people on last year's team? They were as special of a group of kids/men as we've had around here, as a whole.

That said, There will absolutely be some duds along the way, almost surely some teams that just don't 'fit', or pan out as envisioned, and we're of course gonna lose our share over the years due to bags being dropped elsewhere...but it sure as hell feels good trusting our coach again.
 
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Ron Mehico

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Also, with regards to Travis Perry, there was a great post on rafters about it: Even though he’s smaller and not particularly athletic, there is no reason he can’t be as good as similar players athletically and skill wise that made a name for themselves in the NBA. The three similar to Travis Perry players he named?

John Stockton, Steve Nash, and Mark Price 😂 Pretty decent for our 12th man imo
 

catsfanbgky

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IMO, when 100% healthy :

PG - Lowe
2G - Oweh
SF - Williams
PF - Dioubate
C - Quaintance

The key to this lineup working (obvious strong defensively), is Williams and Dioubate hitting the 3's at a similar clip as last year, but on higher volume. Also, do not harp on Lowe's shooting %'s last year for 2 reasons, one, he had to carry the team on his back having the ball so much, he had to take a lot of tough shots with the shot clock running down. The second reason was he had a broken finger on his shooting hand. Even wore a splint on it.
 

_Chase_

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- Speaking of, The Faithful didn’t just blindly decide to believe in Mark Pope last April. That’s a misnomer. After the decision, BBN started doing research and watching tape. Once we took a look, we saw a guy who with our resources could do really well. We knew Pope. We knew how intelligent and charismatic he was. Dude would be a CEO or CMO if he wasn’t a ball coach. Once we dove into his BYU offense, we got it.
The youtube video about Pope's offense titled something along the lines of "this team plays offense like a video game" flipped me from "uh, not sure about this" to "f*ck it let's go" in about 3 seconds. Luckily I came across that video within about 10 minutes of him being hired. Whoever got that video in the hands of BJW so quickly did the lord's work.