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Krazykats1

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Yea I’m in the camp that Kiffin will be the next UF coach and maybe Sumrall could be at Ole Miss.

I just don’t think there will be many big jobs open either, therefore there is no need to have an A list of top candidates to fill possibly 1-4 jobs.

FYI, Franklin will be a coach somewhere too and at this point I’d consider him before Sumrall.
 
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Late Fall, 2036: Kentucky Football is 11-0, going into the final game of the season against Louisville. If we win, we make the CFB playoffs.

We're up 28 - 7 and JUST as the clock hits 1 SECOND REMAINING, Apophis, being roughly the same size as Commonwealth, hits smack dab on the 50 yard line. Denying us a perfect season.

The only thing still standing, is the scoreboard, with the 00:01 still illuminated. Frozen in time forever. A symbolic monument to futility. LOL

Now THAT would be, the MOST Kentucky Football thing EVER.
 
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Back when I was a raging alcoholic, bourbon being my drink of choice, I made what I now realize were some really hare brained posts. You see The bourbon made me think I was smarter than I was which led to wild ideas that made perfect sense.

I say that because it’s the only thing that would come close to making that James Franklin take make any sense at all.
 
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I'm convinced that UKFB HAS to have an offensive minded Head Coach to succeed. Someone that handles everything on that side of the ball, has a system, is an innovative play caller etc. because that takes the revolving QB/OC door out of the equation. Combine that, and keep White as DC and I think you're looking at a situation that gives Kentucky a fighting chance.

Continuity on offense is a LOT more difficult to maintain than it is on defense. Just my 2 cents. Not saying that this is universal across college football. Great DC's (Kirby Smart) can be great college coaches at established powers, but at a place like Kentucky? Probably not.
 
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august-west said:
I say that because it’s the only thing that would come close to making that James Franklin take make any sense at all.
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Well in 14 years as a head coach Franklin is 128-60 in the SEC(3 seasons) and B10(11 years).

Barring financial expectation differences he is by far more accomplished than Sumrall’s 37-10 at Troy and Tulane.

The rumors of Sumrall to Va Tech are more realistic than that Sumrall to Florida article.
 
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Heard a stat from everyone’s favorite person around here that Cignetti now has more top-10 wins in one month than James Franklin has in 13 years (pretty sure that’s the right number, not going back to find it again).

Whatever the exact number, that’s . . . pretty telling.

Plus, the guy just sucks. I’m all for a coach that has some fire and likes to mix it up, but that’s not who he is. He’s just a whiny *****.
 
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Krazykats1 said:
Well in 14 years as a head coach Franklin is 128-60 in the SEC(3 seasons) and B10(11 years).

Barring financial expectation differences he is by far more accomplished than Sumrall’s 37-10 at Troy and Tulane.

The rumors of Sumrall to Va Tech are more realistic than that Sumrall to Florida article.
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Curt Cignatti has more top ten wins at IU. Than James Franklin in ten years at Penn State.

Sorry didn’t see the post above. But it’s so ridiculous to pay $35M to get rid of one washed coach. Just to hire another that was beaten by the first washed coached.

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jayroon41

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I prefer Sumrall because I think he could be a Pope like hire but there are other good options as well:

Cignetti, Stein (Oregon OC), Hartline (Ohio St OC), Campbell (Iowa State), Diaz (Duke), Lea (Vandy), Golesh (USF), Arroyo (Arizona State's OC), Klein (A&M's OC), Mouser (Iowa State OC), Moore (Mizzouri's OC).

Anyone have any other good options or have any reason we shouldn't pursue any of the coaches from this list?

 
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Well I’m not talking about at UK. I think both guys should be smart enough to stay away from UK Football.

As far as the narrative on Franklin’s record against Top 10 teams(4-21) which coincides with against Top 10 teams in the B10(1-18)……. Which means he couldn’t beat OSU and Michigan and then Oregon the past 2 seasons, but he had them in the playoff last season.

I know you guys dislike him and that’s fine, but the guy can coach and PSU might come out of this worse than they were with Franklin. I say that because if it isn’t Cignetti the list is at best about the same as Franklin IMO.

- As far as UK, yes I’d have a wait and see approach with Sumrall and I’d be as hopeful and loyal to him as I am Stoops. Truly I’m loyal to UK more than the coach and I’ll always want the best and most.

That’s a solid list but I’d add Shannon Dawson and I’d strongly consider Dan Mullen if somehow he could bring in a recruiting guy to help him.
 
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Hank Camacho said:
Wayne was absolutely right that the product starts to suffer the moment the corporate vultures start to try to cut every cost and squeak out every penny of revenue.
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My daughter's softball team had a tournament in the middle of nowhere, Indiana. Only choice for dinner for the team was a Chili's. While not a PE firm, it's absolutely astounding how much Brinker has changed the restaurant for the worse. And yet somehow their same-store revenue is up 23%. Lol.

As for this site. I just don't get it. Why wouldn't you just keep the platform the way it was with the same web address? Is there value for being on the "On3" platform for the end user? Requiring everybody to get new accounts or find your old ones somehow had to have knocked out like 20% of the users.
 
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Voin said:
Is there any media market in the entire country in which you can live and not be subjected to every single Cowboys game EVERY SINGLE SEASON?

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I don't know, but "local" CBS game in Louisville has been the Browns 5 of the 6 weeks of the season. I swear to God the NFL hates us.
 
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jayroon41 said:
That settles it then; there you go Krazy another mental giant willing to go out on that limb with you. Two peas in a pod.,
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You're definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed on here, but even Radio knows that Franklin is light years ahead of Sumrall at the SEC level.
 
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jayroon41

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august-west said:
To be honest I’m not 100% sold on Sumrall either. I wouldn’t be disappointed if he’s the choice but when the time comes there needs to be an all out and thorough search done. If he is the best candidate then so be it, I’ll be behind him all the way.
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That's fair; who would you prefer instead of him?
 
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august-west said:
To be honest I’m not 100% sold on Sumrall either. I wouldn’t be disappointed if he’s the choice but when the time comes there needs to be an all out and thorough search done. If he is the best candidate then so be it, I’ll be behind him all the way.
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It's really hard to tell with these dudes. Everyone thought Fickell would crush at Wisconsin. Total dud. Same with Frost and Rhule at Nebraska. Jimbo at TAMU. Meanwhile, Cignetti was a much less heralded hire and he has f*cking IU in the National Title picture. I'd just like to have some positivity and excitement around the program.
 
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Brady, please elaborate if you can.
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UK paid off AA because AA has so much dirt on those cheating losers. I was asked to cheat. I was asked to pay $300,000 for Kinyata Goodwin on national signing day. Anybody remember his LOI coming in late that day? I can tell you it was because MSU offered 300k on NSD.

I laughed in their face. Only done NIL deals with current players. I tried to help and they asked you to cheat SMH. After that, they never asked me again for recruits.

Eddie Gran is the only coach over there with some integrity and character that I ever dealt with.

Top button is paying Stoops because Stoops has the goods on him is my educated guess.

Any staff that thinks Goodwin is worth $300,000 back then deserves to be fired. They are wasteful and cheats. That’s the truth.
 
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BradyJames said:
UK paid off AA because AA has so much dirt on those cheating losers. I was asked to cheat. I was asked to pay $300,000 for Kinyata Goodwin on national signing day. Anybody remember his LOI coming in late that day? I can tell you it was because MSU offered 300k on NSD.

I laughed in their face. Only done NIL deals with current players. I tried to help and they asked you to cheat SMH. After that, they never asked me again for recruits.

Eddie Gran is the only coach over there with some integrity and character that I ever dealt with.

Top button is paying Stoops because Stoops has the goods on him is my educated guess.

Any staff that thinks Goodwin is worth $300,000 back then deserves to be fired. They are wasteful and cheats. That’s the truth.
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Im not disputing your story but if you think anyone cares about “the goods” anymore you are nuts. Hell hardly anyone cared back when “the goods” were illegal.
 
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I like Sumrall and his passion for the game but I'm starting to prefer taking a flyer on a guy like Stein or Hartline. After 13 years playing 1940s football, I think UK needs an innovative mind.

Ideally, you would have **** canned Stoops after the infractions dropped last year and tagged Coen as the HC (although I think he would have turned it down as he seems to prefer the NFL).

Either way, gotta be done with Stoops this year or we will absolutely cave (even further) on recruiting.
 
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It's like some are resigning themselves to Sumrall. Yeah, he'll have an advantage, knowing how things work here but there are others to look at.

Stoops was a good hire. He just stayed too long. He and we screwed that up.

As to Hartline, I think OSU's offense is pretty vanilla, maybe by Day's design. They can execute with great talent. UK does not have that luxury. If you're looking for a great offensive mind, he may not be it. IDK.

I'm just looking for Arch to put of HOF numbers this weekend and Feinbaum can declare, Texas is back!
 
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Are there requirements in the Stoops contract where that addresses all the things we could potentially do to make his life miserable enough to walk away? I'm not talking anything illegal, but more Major League style.

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I heard Cignetti and his wife grew up in West Pa and hate Penn State and probably won't be going there. He only makes $200,000 less than Franklin was making, at a minimum he's going to parlay this to a nice raise. After learning more, I think they'll likely end up with Rhule who grew up there and played there.

Florida might be able to get Cignetti though; they might have two great options with he and Kiffin; Drinkwitz may be their 3rd choice.
 
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jayroon41 said:
I heard Cignetti and his wife grew up in West Pa and hate Penn State and probably won't be going there. He only makes $200,000 less than Franklin was making, at a minimum he's going to parlay this to a nice raise. I think they would then turn their attention to Rhule who will probably turn them down too; Iowa State's coach would be a good hire for them.

Florida might be able to get him though; they might have two great options with he and Kiffin; Drinkwitz may be their 3rd choice.
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His dad was the WVU coach when he was a teenager. WVU hates Penn St and Pitt with a passion.
 
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The 60-day buyout clause is so unique I haven't heard anyone that can think of any buyout nor can I find any that large that was due in that short of a period of time. The only one in the ballpark was Kevin Sumlin being owed $10 million in 60 days.

If Stoops is bought out, it would be the 3rd largest buyout in college football history behind Jimbo and Franklin.

Mitch needs to retire so we can reset the football program without him.
 
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