He gone … unvaccinated Vikings coach

[JPFisher]

This is mostly false. Trump did promote the vaccine. Pretty hard as a matter of fact. It was Biden/Harris who spent the early months stating that they didn't trust Trump's vaccine.

Also trump never down played the pandemic. Another CNN lie. He ridiculed the silly measures that some states like New York were taking. And he should have because those measures not only didn't help but actively hurt the situation. Florida, Texas, Georgia and South Dakota all proved that those measures were frivolous at best. Closing small mom and pop grocery stores because they were non essential didn't end the need for people to shop. It only forced thousands of people at a time to pack into Walmart. What exactly does such a policy achieve. Absolutely nothing and Trump was correct in point this out.

Again he didn't down play the virus or the vaccine. He did however ridicule these silly measures that some governors were taking. That's not the same thing.

You're entitled to your assessment of the situation.

I just wonder why so many of his supporters refuse the vaccine if they trust him so much and if he pushed vaccination so hard.

Also why so many folks on the left have received the vaccine in spite of your assertion that Biden and Harris were harming vaccination efforts.

Kentucky regularly had fewer infections per capita than Tennessee during the pandemic. I'm not sure about other blue states, but shut downs and other drastic measures were only enacted because of a refusal of some Americans to do the bare minimum to stop the spread of the virus. That contingency of Americans didn't become emboldened out of the blue.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

This is all you need to watch this vid till the end and you will see that this whole plandemic has been in motion for yrs.. don't let them control you..

https://t.co/sS2HGICrNb?amp=1

It takes about 5 minutes to do a little research on Dr. David Martin the author of this video, to find that he's a conspiracy kook.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/

 

[megablue]

You're entitled to your assessment of the situation.

I just wonder why so many of his supporters refuse the vaccine if they trust him so much and if he pushed vaccination so hard.

YES, good point !! It would be interesting to know how many (if any) politicians and talking heads received the vaccine, while publicly down-playing and not supporting it ?? Likewise, the same for those (if any) heavily promoting the vaccine, while not receiving it themselves. You simply cannot help but wonder, the way all of this stuff has played out ...

 

[Global Havok]

It takes about 5 minutes to do a little research on Dr. David Martin the author of this video, to find that he's a conspiracy kook.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/

Whenever someone tells you "this video is all you need to see to inform yourself" and they link you a video on the internet you should seriously question their critical thinking skills.

 

[American Dragon]

I say this with all sincerity, I really hope none of you in this thread have this happen to you. Be safe.

https://news.yahoo.com/conservative-radio-talk-show-host-160604107.html

Proof that karma is real

 

[Lost In FL]

Spoiler alert: No such report exists because his claim is total BS.

Fact check: false.

Now, everyone may not like the links or data collection methods, but that is true on both sides. I appreciate JP's mature discussion, where ppl can have a discussion, evaluate on merits and make their own decision, rather than these tactics.

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

Fact check: false.

Now, everyone may not like the links or data collection methods, but that is true on both sides. I appreciate JP's mature discussion, where ppl can have a discussion, evaluate on merits and make their own decision, rather than these tactics.

What tactics? You made a claim, were called out on it and you refuse to provide the proof that your claim is correct. If it was true as you state, you should have no problem proving it.

 

[JPFisher]

This is all you need to watch this vid till the end and you will see that this whole plandemic has been in motion for yrs.. don't let them control you..

https://t.co/sS2HGICrNb?amp=1

Imma say this as someone who was a yellow-blooded, Ron Paul and Gary Johnson-supporting Libertarian... Getting into conspiracy theories really makes you feel like the smartest dude in the room. I used to regularly look around a room and think to myself that the damn fools surrounding me had no idea about big pharma cancer treatment suppression or the Clinton hit list or manufactured fuel scarcity from technological suppression in vehicles.

Then I started to look at what I was believing and thinking and realized I was basically bat **** crazy. Hell, Snowden uncovered a ton of stuff, but nothing to those conspiracies.

It's hard as hell to think about the world and commit yourself to changing how you interpret it. It's so easy to fall into a horrific cycle of confirmation bias that feeds into the belief that you CANNOT possibly be wrong. But, escaping that cycle is possible.

Cheers, friend.

 

[megablue]

Imma say this as someone who was a yellow-blooded, Ron Paul and Gary Johnson-supporting Libertarian... Getting into conspiracy theories really makes you feel like the smartest dude in the room. I used to regularly look around a room and think to myself that the damn fools surrounding me had no idea about big pharma cancer treatment suppression or the Clinton hit list or manufactured fuel scarcity from technological suppression in vehicles.

Then I started to look at what I was believing and thinking and realized I was basically bat **** crazy. Hell, Snowden uncovered a ton of stuff, but nothing to those conspiracies.

It's hard as hell to think about the world and commit yourself to changing how you interpret it. It's so easy to fall into a horrific cycle of confirmation bias that feeds into the belief that you CANNOT possibly be wrong. But, escaping that cycle is possible.

Cheers, friend.

I appreciate your honesty and sentiments.

I've often wondered if the way to go in developing sets of beliefs is maybe to assume you are wrong and then conduct an honest and open-minded search to prove its errancy to yourself. Absent the ability to prove your position to be wrong, you have more the reason to hold onto it.

 

[BBBLazing]

There are plenty of big name players that are refusing to take the shot. Good for them as well. I have friends that have taken this experimental injection and have lost the ability to function. Can't walk or talk and continuously shake. Some have caught the virus multiple times after taking their second round of experimental injection. This is a slurp fest for some of you. But hey your body your choice. Right.

I'm calling BS on this. You don't have friends that received the vaccination and then lost the ability to walk and talk.

 

[BBBLazing]

According to the CDC, a few weeks ago, more people died from complications due to the vaccine than from complications due to the disease. The total number is now nearing 70K.

People either don't hear about this, because of $$$ or because they are too busy lighting candles at the alter of Fraudci.

• Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.

Where do you get 70K? This is straight from the CDC website.

 

[sieken_rivals49111]

I'm calling BS on this. You don't have friends that received the vaccination and then lost the ability to walk and talk.

It happens… I can’t speak to the regularity of it, honestly have no idea. However, I have a coworker that his daughter is dealing with this exact scenario. She is having to relearn to walk, constant numbness in her lower body, a few other ailments. Again, I don’t know how often this is happening or if they even understand who is at risk of this happening to them but it is happening. It was a two shot vaccine but I don’t remember which one he said it was.

 

[jimmybuffet123]

I know several who got severely sick and a couple who died after taking the vaccine.
One of my best friends is in bad condition right now with heart problems after taking it. Said he is also having bad problems with his legs not working right.

This vaccine is much worse than the actual virus. A virus that is so deadly they had to include cancer deaths, car wrecks, drive by shootings etc etc etc all in to drive the numbers up.

Your much better off getting the virus and developing natural immunity to it

Lol found the internet doctor. Break out the Alex Jones tinfoil hats

 

[Father Torque_rivals16706]

I'm calling BS on this. You don't have friends that received the vaccination and then lost the ability to walk and talk.

It can happen. That's the Guillain-Barre syndrome they talk about. It can be really bad. My father-in-law got it once after a flu vaccine. My wife's doctor has always recommended her not getting a vaccine because of that, in case it's hereditary. She's still on the fence about getting the covid vaccine because of it.

 

[Lost In FL]

• Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 339 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through July 19, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines. However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths.

Where do you get 70K? This is straight from the CDC website.

I linked it earlier. I appreciate you looking the first part up. You have to run a query from the vaers tool.

Correction: Today's count was at 11K, up from 7K. I'll correct my original from 70K to 7K. My sincere apologies to everyone on that; i could've sworn i saw 70K someplace, but it may have been this 7K. My sincere apologies. [I do not want "disinformation" either. I want ppl to know the truth and make the decision on their own.] Now ... the 7K or 11K could be overstated, fair argument. We could find later it is understated too. Regardless, the USG stopped the swine flu (pretty sure it was swine flu and not bird flu) in 1976 to just 3 deaths. So, if there is potentially 7K or 11K deaths attributable to the vax AND if the vax doesn't stop someone from "catching and releasing" (haha), then why not be patient?

One item i found interesting, or troubling (depending upon where you sit), is vaers cases were relatively flat for like a decade, and then in 2021 it blows up. I understand the vaers count is "flexible", but that argument holds true for the death count as well. So... I would advise anyone to just be patient and wait for data.

 

[JC CATS]

I looked it up on the CDC website. You have to look for VAERS then run a query. It's been well-documented, for those that want the truth about this non-FDA approved injection.

But it has received approval. They gave it after studies, emergency approval. If you get Covid, the hospital may save your life with a drug not FDA approved https://buffalonews.com/news/local/...cle_8ee56f1a-625d-11eb-b771-b76fa82cbedb.html

 

[sluggercatfan]

My 79 year old aunt took the 1st shot in May. Two days later became very sick. For three weeks she was in the hospital. She had very little use of her arms and legs and had several headaches. This continued all though June with her husband actually carrying her daily from the bed to the bathroom. At least 5 different doctors treated her during May and June and ALL of them noted that her condition was most likely due to the vaccine. She started to improve about 3 weeks ago where now she can move without assistance.
She is a very strong democrat and was a advocate for the vaccine. But now she says she wishes she had never took it. I understand this is a rare occurrence and not the norm. But it had changed my opinion about taking it especially since she is family.

I had a personal experience like this taking the shots in Feburary that sent me to the emrgency. Still having problems with BP and numbness/pain in my right arm and hand. If a booster is recommended, they can shove it. The ER dr or my PC can't/won't tell if it's because of the shots!!

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Ummmmm no. You start with the constitution and go from there. I’m not saying they can’t fire him. I said he exercised his rights.

What right? He simply refused a vaccine and was fired. I don't see the "right" there. I guess he certainly had the right to go against his employer.

 

[sieken_rivals49111]

Today’s favor is tomorrow’s job….

Allowing companies or entities to dictate our health care to retain our employment is not a scenario I like or am comfortable with.

 

[catsfancy]

Mmm more like it's going national if you don't take the death jab your going to be out of a job.

Admire this guy for standing on his principles. It is a free country after all. Just need guys to stand up and fight for it.


His body his choice

The death jab
Idiot.

 

[crashtestdummy_rivals61973]

quoting statistics and articles on both sides of the issue is pointless. tests/testing guidelines can be altered or manipulated to inflate one's position. and if you think either side will not lie to support their stance on the issue, well you are being naive. vaccination is not the issue for me. it's my freedom for personal choice that is concerning. this is just another example of how we no longer live in a free country. choice on the vaccine should not have to be disclosed to anyone for any reason.

 

[TeoJ]

Mmm more like it's going national if you don't take the death jab your going to be out of a job.

Admire this guy for standing on his principles. It is a free country after all. Just need guys to stand up and fight for it.


His body his choice

Teams bodies their choice, always two sides.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

Fyi, just because you get paid to take out the trash in a hospital doesnt make you a medical professional. (Im only joking.)

You have opinion, perspective, and anectdotal evidence, as do i.

Just dont force everyone else to do what was best for you.

Edit: hope you dont get upset at the joke. Was just trying to add a little levity. Hope you took it that way, in jest.

I'm a long time ICU RN and sometimes I do take out the trash when needed.

I don't really care about people getting the vaccine other than my family and friends. It's a personal choice.

I will say that Covid + numbers are rising in my facility as well as the others in the city.

People not getting the vaccine is job security, just like smokers...

 

[satcheluk]

Mmm more like it's going national if you don't take the death jab your going to be out of a job.

Admire this guy for standing on his principles. It is a free country after all. Just need guys to stand up and fight for it.


His body his choice

I agree his body, his choice. I wonder how many people saying that truly believe it. A lot of women might like the same support.

Mmm more like it's going national if you don't take the death jab your going to be out of a job.

Admire this guy for standing on his principles. It is a free country after all. Just need guys to stand up and fight for it.


His body his choice

I agree his body, his choice. I wonder how many people saying that truly believe it. A lot of women might like the same support.

 

[wobycat]

I say this with all sincerity, I really hope none of you in this thread have this happen to you. Be safe.

https://news.yahoo.com/conservative-radio-talk-show-host-160604107.html

Covid real but yahoo is very liberal site. I wouldn’t believe anything they say.

 

[TBCat]

What right? He simply refused a vaccine and was fired. I don't see the "right" there. I guess he certainly had the right to go against his employer.

The right is the right to privacy. Your employer doesn't have a right to know your medical history. Let alone dictate the medications you are requires to have.

 

[wobycat]

I can’t believe people will just allow anything to be injected with anything. They have no idea what’s in that.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

The right is the right to privacy. Your employer doesn't have a right to know your medical history. Let alone dictate the medications you are requires to have.

Wanna bet?

 

[American Dragon]

I can’t believe people will just allow anything to be injected with anything. They have no idea what’s in that.

The ingredients are public information, and at least where I got mine at, they were given to you on arrival and the nurse confirmed with you before administering the vaccine if you knew you were allergic to any of the ingredients.

 

[American Dragon]

The right is the right to privacy. Your employer doesn't have a right to know your medical history. Let alone dictate the medications you are requires to have.

In some cases they do. If they send you to a doc and are paying for the services, then it’s required by law they receive the results and summary of the visit.

And if they make a vaccination required as a term of employment, then they have the legal right to request proof.

 

[wobycat]

The ingredients are public information, and at least where I got mine at, they were given to you on arrival and the nurse confirmed with you before administering the vaccine if you knew you were allergic to any of the ingredients.

You watched them mix it?

 

[notFromhere]

I know several who got severely sick and a couple who died after taking the vaccine.
One of my best friends is in bad condition right now with heart problems after taking it. Said he is also having bad problems with his legs not working right.

This vaccine is much worse than the actual virus. A virus that is so deadly they had to include cancer deaths, car wrecks, drive by shootings etc etc etc all in to drive the numbers up.

Your much better off getting the virus and developing natural immunity to it

Yep. For those between the ages of 1-39 the severe side effects from these is many times worse than getting the virus itself.

In Israel studies have shown that the reinfection rate among those who had the virus is 1% while among those taking the shot it is 40%. This only counts cases among those who had clear symptoms and not those who fought it off without symptoms. The percentage of reinfection among those who had the virus is probably drastically lower than 1% for that reason.

 

[American Dragon]

You watched them mix it?

You see people make all the food you have ever eat? You see people make all the meds/supplements you’ve ever taken?

 

[wobycat]

You see people make all the food you have ever eat? You see people make all the meds/supplements you’ve ever taken?

No. Lol I don’t. And we’ve heard stories how some of this minor items you speak of have been destructive of course those items aren’t trying to combat a man made virus.

 

[megablue]

Covid real but yahoo is very liberal site. I wouldn’t believe anything they say.

This was posted just a few hours ago and included a tweet from his radio station. The situation is true, real and certainly believable.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/im-at...fighting-for-his-life?source=articles&via=rss

 

[DaytonKat]

There is a 100% chance that every person that's posted on this thread will die.

Accept that as a fact. No link required.

 

[kyhankypanky]

Mmm more like it's going national if you don't take the death jab your going to be out of a job.

Admire this guy for standing on his principles. It is a free country after all. Just need guys to stand up and fight for it.


His body his choice

Wrong

 

[kyhankypanky]

I know several who got severely sick and a couple who died after taking the vaccine.
One of my best friends is in bad condition right now with heart problems after taking it. Said he is also having bad problems with his legs not working right.

This vaccine is much worse than the actual virus. A virus that is so deadly they had to include cancer deaths, car wrecks, drive by shootings etc etc etc all in to drive the numbers up.

Your much better off getting the virus and developing natural immunity to it

This is so stupid and incorrect. It is this crap that is getting people killed when it could be so easily prevented.

 

[JPFisher]

There is a 100% chance that every person that's posted on this thread will die.

Nuh uh.

 

[kyhankypanky]

My ofc had a rash of positives the past 2 weeks. Every single one was "vaccinated". Taking the jab doesnt stop anyone from catching and transmitting.

Sure it does. It’s science.